Virgil Van Dijk

[Gym Beglin]

£140-£160m for Van Dijk and Keita would be crazy.

 

One has a short term purple patch before a big injury, remember Strootman? The other has had one decent season in Germany and his true level of ability is up for debate.

 

It would take us to £175m with Salah.

 

Question marks all over the shop.

[cuppatea]

I'd argue that one of our problems in the transfer market has been that when we do spend big, it's often not on proven, established quality but on previously unheralded players whose value has skyrocketed over a short period due to a sharp upturn in form. At that point we spend an absolute fortune to find out the hard way that rather than having suddenly developed into far better players than the majority of their careers would suggest, they'd simply entered a purple patch.

 

As a general rule, if a player is worth £10m at 24 I wouldn't be spending £70m on them at 26. Nor would I fork out £70m for a player who had moved for less than £10m a year ago and had only played 30 odd games of football since.

[Gym Beglin]

Yes yes and yes.

[SammyAftershave]

Given the Keita price has jumped from 30 to 50 to 80 and the Van Dijk price has gone from 40 to 50 to 70 then it probably fair enough.

 

[Bjornebye]

£140-£160m for Van Dijk and Keita would be crazy.

 

One has a short term purple patch before a big injury, remember Strootman? The other has had one decent season in Germany and his true level of ability is up for debate.

 

It would take us to £175m with Salah.

 

Question marks all over the shop.

Tje only question mark would be why did we only win.theleague by 10 points

[Dr Nowt]

The slow reveal of this window to AOC and a jobbing Lithuanian centre back from midtable Bundesliga is going to be a delight.

[BCM]

The slow reveal of this window to AOC and a jobbing Lithuanian centre back from midtable Bundesliga is going to be a delight.

Glad im not the only one thinking that.

[Ginny]

£140-£160m for Van Dijk and Keita would be crazy.

One has a short term purple patch before a big injury, remember Strootman? The other has had one decent season in Germany and his true level of ability is up for debate.

It would take us to £175m with Salah.

Question marks all over the shop.

People are starting to think like FSG! I couldn't give two shits what we spend. Soemd £200m on them - I honestly couldn't give a fuck. It's not my money and there's more than enough being filtered through the club then you can possibley imagine. The whole board are probably billionaires for a start. Just get them fuckin signed and stop pissing and moaning about money! We need to act and stop dicking around.

[J-V]

Is this going to be a record for the longest thread about a player who'll never play for us?

Hope so.

[VladimirIlyich]

The slow reveal of this window to AOC and a jobbing Lithuanian centre back from midtable Bundesliga is going to be a delight.

Well we've just paid £35-40 million for a player most fans(if they're honest) will hardly have heard of,not that this means he wont be an excellent buy of course. I'd still be happy if we spent the same money again on 3 or 4 other players or else we will once again be complaining about our paper thin squad when we fade away from a possible battle for the title next season.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

£140-£160m for Van Dijk and Keita would be crazy.

 

One has a short term purple patch before a big injury, remember Strootman? The other has had one decent season in Germany and his true level of ability is up for debate.

 

It would take us to £175m with Salah.

 

Question marks all over the shop.

 

 

I'd argue that one of our problems in the transfer market has been that when we do spend big, it's often not on proven, established quality but on previously unheralded players whose value has skyrocketed over a short period due to a sharp upturn in form. At that point we spend an absolute fortune to find out the hard way that rather than having suddenly developed into far better players than the majority of their careers would suggest, they'd simply entered a purple patch.

 

As a general rule, if a player is worth £10m at 24 I wouldn't be spending £70m on them at 26. Nor would I fork out £70m for a player who had moved for less than £10m a year ago and had only played 30 odd games of football since.

 

These. These players may maintain their level, but they aren't "proven" quite yet, at least not to me and judging by the lack of people proposing we sign them a year or two ago, to most of the forum. I'd still like us to get them but to pay £140m? Christ. If they didn't work we'd cripple ourselves for years. YEARS.

[Unrighteous]

Glad im not the only one thinking that.

 

Too early in the summer for that.  We need to build up our hopes to impossible levels, and then let the ground meet us quickly as we approach the window and desperately hope for Liverpool to, literally, sign anyone.   Of course, then we start looking for the January window with a glimmer of hope... 

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Life, oh life, oooooooh liiiiiiifee

[El Rojo]

The slow reveal of this window to AOC and a jobbing Lithuanian centre back from midtable Bundesliga is going to be a delight.

 

Shocking that you're not going with the conventional wisdom on here that we'll double our current transfer record fee twice in the next few days for van Dijk and Keita.

 

Once we've those on board, we can concentrate on Riquelme.

[setreal]

Life, oh life, oooooooh liiiiiiifee

 

[Paco]

Those reports in Belgium, that the Chelseamanager had been in regular contact with the Everton forward over recent weeks detailing his tactics for next season and making plain just how key he considered Lukaku to his game-plan, have never been contested. The player himself expected to return to south-west London. The manager anticipated welcoming him back into the fold.

 

 

Is this not what we did with van dijk? Or did they have permission to talk to him?

[jimmycase]

Those reports in Belgium, that the Chelseamanager had been in regular contact with the Everton forward over recent weeks detailing his tactics for next season and making plain just how key he considered Lukaku to his game-plan, have never been contested. The player himself expected to return to south-west London. The manager anticipated welcoming him back into the fold.

 

 

Is this not what we did with van dijk? Or did they have permission to talk to him?

 

I think the fact we'd bought a number of players off southampton certainly added to them being pissed off and making a show against us for their fans.

 

Ive no doubt chelsea and every other club have done the same.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Liverpool refuse to panic buy with Reds taking patient approach to Jurgen Klopp's targets

A proposed £60m swoop for Virgil van Dijk collapsed when Southampton made a complaint to the Premier League while Naby Keita's proposed move has also dragged on

BySimon Mullock

    22:30, 8 JUL 2017

Liverpool are prepared to play a waiting game to land Jurgen Klopp’s transfer targets after the German told the club that quality must come before quantity.

Klopp has been handed a £200million transfer kitty this summer after taking the Reds back into the Champions League, but his only recruits so far have been £36.9m Mohamed Salah from Roma and Chelsea’s out-of-contract youngster Dominic Solanke.

A proposed £60m swoop for Southampton’s Virgil van Dijk collapsed when the Saints made a complaint to the Premier League.

Yet Liverpool are refusing to panic as Klopp prepares to welcome his squad back for pre-season training.

“Jurgen is happy with how our transfer business is being conducted,” said a high-level Anfield insider.

“This summer was always going to be about quality rather than quality and the manager understands that landing the kind of players he wants was always going to be about being patient.

“There is no sense of worry or panic.

“This window is about bringing in players who are better than the ones who are already here.”

Van Dijk is understood to be devastated by the prospect of seeing his dream move to Anfield collapse and is refusing to speak to the media as he contemplates his next step

Everton boss Ronaldo Koeman is a big admirer of the defender – and they share the same agent – but the Dutchman believes Van Dijk is so set on a move to Liverpool that he is reluctant to lodge a bid with Southampton and risk losing out on the player.

Liverpool have backed off from Van Dijk but will revive their interest if the centre-back’s “circumstances change”.

The feeling in Holland is that the 25-year-old is deciding whether to lodge an official transfer request.

Liverpool’s pursuit of Keita is similarly complex. The 22-year-old has made it clear to the Bundesliga club that he wants to move to Anfield. However, Leipzig sporting director Ralf Rangnick, a close friend of Klopp’s, is adamant that a deal will not be struck at any price.

Once again, it will be left to the player to force the issue. Keita made his feelings clear at a meeting with Rangnick last week.

Liverpool, meanwhile, are themselves refusing to listen to offers for Philippe Coutinho after reports from France that Paris Saint-Germain are preparing an £80m bid for the Brazilian. Barcelona were given the same response earlier in the summer when they made an enquiry.

And Klopp is so adamant that the playmaker is not for sale that he has told the club not to put a price on Coutinho’shead.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-refuse-panic-buy-reds-10761312

 

Nothing new I know, but interesting nonetheless.

[s(k)aturation]

I think the fact we'd bought a number of players off southampton certainly added to them being pissed off and making a show against us for their fans.

 

 

It's not like we stole them though... we paid millions and millions of pounds for them, over the odds some might suggest... and perhaps they've done fuck all with all of our money. And they have a history of selling out, which ain't going to change whether it's us or someone else.

 

I'm no sympathiser to our transfer policies and activity, but Southampton and their fans can go and get to fuck frankly.

[jimmycase]

It's not like we stole them though... we paid millions and millions of pounds for them, over the odds some might suggest.

 

I'm no sympathiser to our transfer policies and activity, but Southampton can go and get to fuck frankly.

 

No I know we paid good money for them but there's no doubt clubs and their fans get shirty when the same club keeps buying their supposed best players.

 

And, we were in the process of doing it again with van Dijk.

 

Im not arsed about southampton's 'feelings.'

[Trojan1892]

Everton bound....... righto

[s(k)aturation]

No I know we paid good money for them but there's no doubt clubs and their fans get shirty when the same club keeps buying their supposed best players.

 

And, we were in the process of doing it again with van Dijk.

 

Im not arsed about southampton's 'feelings.'

 

 

They were a fucking great club once upon a time.

Wembley 76, Micky Channon, McMenemy, Keegan... (Le Tissier).

Great character and fight and flair.

 

Shite now.

 

Mind you, so are we comparatively of course.

[Arl arse]

"This window is about bringing in players who are better than the ones who are already here.”

Shouldn't that be the fuckin aim every bastard window?

[lifetime fan]

“Jurgen is happy with how our transfer business is being conducted,” said a high-level Anfield insider.

 

“This summer was always going to be about quality rather than quality and the manager understands that landing the kind of players he wants was always going to be about being patient.

 

“There is no sense of worry or panic".

 

I wonder which FSG cunt came out with that shite.

[ngogswilly]

looking forward to when these mooted 60 million pound transfers turn into 20 million pound buys from midtable and/or relegated clubs.

moneyball baby