FSG are not shit

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Does anyone think Klopp would have went to Crystal Palace if FSG were there? It was the club that lured Klopp here not the owners, more a case of Klopp choosing us then them choosing him.

 

I'd give them about a 6/10 for this window, that might be partly down to Klopp but they've got form for fucking deals up and not quite doing enough since before Klopp arrived so it should be no surprise they kop the flak.

 

No one is saying they came exclusively because of them, but they deserve credit for identifying, recruiting and retaining (a contract extension) a top manager.

[VladimirIlyich]

CHINA OPENS BULL SHOP. DISASTER IMMINENT.

Dresden get China investment,a cracking deal.

[Thoth]

Whoever gives credit to the owners when we win stuff anyway?

Very strange.

Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Juventus

[G Richards]

To borrow Shankly's old premise that the directors are there to sign the cheques, you would have to say that anything we win will primarily be because of the players and manager.

 

It's a human trait that success has many fathers, so if we did win the league on FSG's watch, there would be some reflected glory e.g. I would imagine John Henry would come over to see the trophy lifted, but everyone knows the score. Unless he puts his boots on and pops up with a header at the back post, the triumph will belong to the players and manager.

[jimmycase]

Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Juventus

 

3 of those 4 have owners where money is no object. The other is the dominant club in their league.

[Thoth]

3 of those 4 have owners where money is no object. The other is the dominant club in their league.

The question was who thanks their owners when they won things not why they win things Jimmy

[ngogswilly]

Well I suppose if they deserve credit if we were to win things then they deserve criticism for when we dont. Which is going on a few years now.

 

Mind you I'll happily credit them for getting Klopp in. Its obviously put the club on a good footing and we saw that with CL qualification. They could have went with another Rodgers type appointment but didn't.

 

All that being said they simply have to get better at ensuring we do better with football related matters. Probably above all else player recruitment. By whatever means they do it I dont care but just dont want to hear excuses year after year.

[jimmycase]

The question was who thanks their owners when they won things not why they win things Jimmy

 

Yes, I know. Im saying that of the clubs that win things, 3 of the 4 have owners with bottomless cash wells.

[Hades]

People are awfully quiet about the fact that we fucked up our main target because FSG appoint amateurs in executive positions. 

[jimmycase]

What the fuck are you talking about, Ive said someone should be sacked for that cock up  with van Dijk.

 

Some people are awfully quiet that they didnt sell coutinho despite the world and his wife saying they would take the money. Some people are awfully quiet that they did sign keita and stopped him going to another club next season but hey, whatever floats yer boat.

[Dave D]

People are awfully quiet about the fact that we fucked up our main target because FSG appoint amateurs in executive positions. 

 

In fairness Saints would have made very hardwork of that deal even if we were perfect in our actions.

 

Not sure what to believe on that particular case, sounds as though Klopp jumped in a bit too soon if the tapping up stories are true. Would explain why he didnt hit the roof when we didnt actually get him.

[Hades]

In fairness Saints would have made very hardwork of that deal even if we were perfect in our actions.

 

Not sure what to believe on that particular case, sounds as though Klopp jumped in a bit too soon if the tapping up stories are true. Would explain why he didnt hit the roof when we didnt actually get him.

 

Why is Klopp acting off book then? He's not the highest-ranking member of the enterprise in Liverpool. It's a shambles. 

[Dave D]

Why is Klopp acting off book then? He's not the highest-ranking member of the enterprise in Liverpool. It's a shambles. 

Yeah, well......I dont know what off book means...

[Jockey]

I think it means 'i'm articulately talking bollocks'

[Dan Vito Corleone]

What the fuck are you talking about, Ive said someone should be sacked for that cock up  with van Dijk.

 

Some people are awfully quiet that they didnt sell coutinho despite the world and his wife saying they would take the money. Some people are awfully quiet that they did sign keita and stopped him going to another club next season but hey, whatever floats yer boat.

 

There is an increasing mistrust against them from an awful lot of people and I am personally at the point where I think they should sell because they are holding the club back. Selling Coutinho would have been suicidal from their point of view. They money would have been nice for them (plenty of interest to be had there, because it wouldn't have been spent on players that's for certain) but their reputation would have been in the gutter. Especially after the statement of "he's not for sale."

[sir roger]

If it means Jurgen is going ' off the grid ' that sounds good.

[Ginny]

What would people do if we got VVD in Jan and then got another couple of players next summer and then won the league next season. People will laugh but I see it as a possibility.

[ngogswilly]

Well it'll certainly be interesting to see what happens come January and next summer.

 

If there really was an extra 100 million earmarked we didn't spend then i'm guessing it should still be there for us to spend without having to sell anyone.

[Dave D]

What would people do if we got VVD in Jan and then got another couple of players next summer and then won the league next season. People will laugh but I see it as a possibility.

 

Well I would immediately declare the players and managers involvement in our league win as a side show and would look forward to watching the FSG bus victory parade  

[Dan Vito Corleone]

What would people do if we got VVD in Jan and then got another couple of players next summer and then won the league next season. People will laugh but I see it as a possibility.

 

We haven't bought a player in January since Coutinho, What makes you think they are going to drop an extortionate sum on a player we have to be invited to bid for?

[Jockey]

I'm fine with them. Far worse out there, and i'm struggling to see any better. But, if by some miracle we adopt the German model, I'm sure that view will change.

[Ginny]

We haven't bought a player in January since Coutinho, What makes you think they are going to drop an extortionate sum on a player we have to be invited to bid for?

Dunno

[Grinch]

There's no value to be had in January and next summer is a world cup year, so there's excuses for the next three window.

 

Going to be real interesting when accounts from the last two summer start to rear their head.  That's when we stopped spending what we earn on players.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

There's no value to be had in January and next summer is a world cup year, so there's excuses for the next three window.

 

Going to be real interesting when accounts from the last two summer start to rear their head.  That's when we stopped spending what we earn on players.

 

I hadn't thought of that - that will be their excuse next year as well.

 

"We tried to get the deals done but the players were still at the World Cup." That's a shoe in of an excuse given the impending reduction of the transfer window.

[jimmycase]

There's no value to be had in January and next summer is a world cup year, so there's excuses for the next three window.

 

Going to be real interesting when accounts from the last two summer start to rear their head.  That's when we stopped spending what we earn on players.

 

I suspect this january may be different given the number of failed moves.