Jordan Henderson, MBE: World Club Cup, European Cup, European Super Cup, Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup & Charity Shield Winning Captain of Liverpool (and massive sellout)

[Numero Veinticinco]

Since his change in role, he has looked dramatically better and has certainly played his part on and off the pitch. Couldn’t be happier for the guy, seems like a top lad and has knuckled down and earned every inch of his success through hard work. Can’t knock it. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

19 hours ago, Heinze said:

Get rid before his gait becomes a problem.

He runs with his knees, not his hips, when he runs on the spot before lifting trophies. 

[moof]

He’s been wonderful ever since Southampton away last season. What a fucking player. Massively underrated in the wider footballing community 

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

He runs with his knees, not his hips, when he runs on the spot before lifting trophies. 

Be nice to see him win more European Cups (old school) than Alex Ferguson and lift the last trophy using a Zimmer frame with ‘goddamn it Alex, you were right’ stencilled in the front in dayglo paint.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

He's been ace these last few Months. His delivery into the box has improved ten fold, just need Jürgen to teach him how to shoot properly now. 

[aRdja]

I gotta give it to him.. this is an excellent example of exercising of restraint from @TK421.

[VladimirIlyich]

8 hours ago, Pistonbroke said:

He's been ace these last few Months. His delivery into the box has improved ten fold, just need Jürgen to teach him how to shoot properly now. 

He almost won us the WCC except for an outstanding save by the keeper. Its in his locker but he seems reluctant to use his shooting boots. We probably dont shoot that much from long range as a team.

[Dr Nowt]

34 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I gotta give it to him.. this is an excellent example of exercising of restraint from @TK421.

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

50 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I gotta give it to him.. this is an excellent example of exercising of restraint from @TK421.

How so? Just because he was in denial for years of Henderson being pretty average, it doesn't give him the right to come and pretend he wasn't. Unless, of course, people don't think Henderson has improved and he was just like this all along, which would be utterly laughable. Anybody giving Henderson dog's abuse was wrong, anybody who made out that he was amazing was wrong. Neither are right based off of him playing a different role in the team and doing it well years down the line. 

[stringvest]

I just thought I'd pop in to say I'm still not mad keen on Henderson. 

[aRdja]

5 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

How so? Just because he was in denial for years of Henderson being pretty average, it doesn't give him the right to come and pretend he wasn't. Unless, of course, people don't think Henderson has improved and he was just like this all along, which would be utterly laughable. Anybody giving Henderson dog's abuse was wrong, anybody who made out that he was amazing was wrong. Neither are right based off of him playing a different role in the team and doing it well years down the line. 

Loads of posters wanted Henderson dropped, stripped of the armband, or worse sold. He had numerous long long-running arguments with some posters (yes including you @stringvest). Hendo’s now proven himself to be one of the best midfielders in the league. He could legit say now “if we dropped/stripped of his captaincy/sold him then we wouldn’t be where we are” for example.

[El Rojo]

10 minutes ago, stringvest said:

I just thought I'd pop in to say I'm still not mad keen on Henderson. 

Bet you like his trophy acceptance shuffle though. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

8 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Loads of posters wanted Henderson dropped, stripped of the armband, or worse sold. He had numerous long long-running arguments with some posters (yes including you @stringvest). Hendo’s now proven himself to be one of the best midfielders in the league. He could legit say now “if we dropped/stripped of his captaincy/sold him then we wouldn’t be where we are” for example.

He could, but that would be daft. The idea that our success or failure rests solely on Henderson is beyond ridiculous, and even TK doesn't seem mental enough to say such a thing. People - including me - wanted the Captaincy to be given to Van Dijk because he 1) is world class 2) was playing and starting, not relegated to the bench. Henderson has been playing well since he moved his role, but by no means is he the difference between winning and losing titles. 

 

Why can't we just be honest with ourselves rather than saying players are either the worst thing in the world or the best in the world. No, he was average, nor he's better than average. He deserves credit now just like he deserved, for a long time, to be questioned. 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

He could, but that would be daft. The idea that our success or failure rests solely on Henderson is beyond ridiculous, and even TK doesn't seem mental enough to say such a thing. People - including me - wanted the Captaincy to be given to Van Dijk because he 1) is world class 2) was playing and starting, not relegated to the bench. Henderson has been playing well since he moved his role, but by no means is he the difference between winning and losing titles. 

 

Why can't we just be honest with ourselves rather than saying players are either the worst thing in the world or the best in the world. No, he was average, nor he's better than average. He deserves credit now just like he deserved, for a long time, to be questioned. 

Virgil himself even has said it a number of times now he wouldn’t dream of taking the armband away from Hendo, which is a great testament to the man. I don’t think it would’ve done the team morale any good if I say so myself.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, viRdjil said:

Virgil himself even has said it a number of times now he wouldn’t dream of taking the armband away from Hendo, which is a great testament to the man. 

Other than the fact that he didn't say that, and that's something you first said and are now quoting as him saying, then yes, that's exactly what he said. 

[aRdja]

In any case, very pleased that Klopp persisted with Hendo. Safe to say he’s repaid his faith ten-fold. His best performance for me was at home against Bayern last season. Absolutely phenomenal. So pleased for him. Proud that he’s our captain.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/feb/20/jordan-henderson-liverpool-bayern-munich-champions-league

 

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The Liverpool captain is often maligned but he outshone more expensive dishes such as Thiago and James in his side’s hard-fought 0-0 draw with Bayern Munich

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They came to Anfield expecting fire and light and red-shirted vengeance. They came scenting one of those hair-raising nights when the air seems to throb with wild, skirling possibilities. They may, on reflection, have slightly misread the situation.

In the buildup to this Champions League first leg against Bayern Munich Jürgen Klopp had promised “passion football”, presumably a sub-genre of the usual heavy metal style: speed-metal football, Lancashire pomp-rock.

In the event it went the other way. On a chilly night at Anfield the wind whipped across, the ball bounced and bobbled, a bitter rain began to fall and before long it had become a Jordan Henderson kind of day.

And yes, in a good way. Liverpool’s captain was quietly magisterial from start to finish here. Henderson did not run the game. This was a game that did not want to be run at all but which meandered absorbingly at times.

Instead he sniped around its edges. He made more passes than Thiago Alcântara, a significant stat if only because Thiago passes the ball as though put on this earth to do little else, while on his bad days Henderson addresses the ball with all the finesse of a man toe-punting a stray tin can down the hard shoulder of the motorway.

Henderson made more tackles than anyone else. He won some vital defensive headers. There was one fine long pass right down the centre to Mo Salah.

'It's not the game we dreamed of': Jürgen Klopp disappointed by performance against Bayern – video 

Towards half-time he produced one of those moments that often get lost in the highlights edit.

Sadio Mané played a casual little nudge into midfield from defence. The pass was intercepted and fed back instantly towards Serge Gnabry. There was a groan on that side of the ground, a feeling of the ground starting to fall away, with no red shirt between Gnabry and the Liverpool goal. At which point: enter Hendo. This was a bravura moment of tracking back, a showboat of a covering tackle as he steamed in and jostled Gnabry aside.

Best of all, Henderson seemed to know something, something that became clear only with the slightly odd spectacle of Liverpool’s captain staying out at the final whistle to applaud the fans at one end while at the other Bayern’s players offered the usual round of thanks to the away support.

By the time Henderson finally left the pitch, still shouting and hugging his teammates, stealing the gloss from the visitors, locking in the moment, one finally saw what he was getting at, the looking-glass nature of this tie.

Henderson law runs as follows: this, the home leg, was really the away leg for Liverpool. But two weeks from now that ravenous front three will find more space at the Allianz Arena. And Liverpool will go to Munich with Virgil van Dijk, their most potent presence, back in the team.

In his absence Henderson stepped up. It is no mean feat against A-list opponents who left Anfield without a shot on goal but who are not to be underestimated even in a period of deadheading and regrowth. The idea of Bayern as genuine underdog always looked a little specious. This is a well-grooved, obsessively proud European football juggernaut.

Bayern’s midfield here was a pedigree thing. It is easy to forget quite what an artist Thiago is, a player who seems to pluck out a handkerchief, take a breath and polish the face of the ball each time before easing it on. Inside him was Javi Martínez, one of the more understated, ludicrously decorated trophy-hoggers in modern football, with six league titles, a Champions League medal and one World Cup to his name.

Liverpool did start with the full adrenal charge. But Bayern kept the ball well at times. On the right Gnabry was purposeful, at one point vaporising Andrew Robertson as he skipped to the line, a rare feat in itself, and probably worthy of a brown plaque on that side of the ground.

Bayern faded after half-time as Liverpool snapped back, led by the captain.

Henderson will no doubt remain Liverpool’s most routinely maligned player, mocked for his meat-and-potatoes style, his ungainly look in this kind of company. Next to, say, James Rodríguez, he can scarcely look like an elite level footballer at all. At one point in the second half he played a throw-in back to the taker with an absurdly exaggerated caution, taking the ball on his instep like a Victorian governess catching an orange in her skirts.

But there is a reason so many excellent managers keep picking him. He plays up to the occasion and never hides from anything, least of all his own limitations. Liverpool did hold steady on a night when they might have blinked. It was thanks in large part to the perfect away performance at home, from a captain who might just have read this tie a little better than anyone else.

 

[Carvalho Diablo]

32 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Other than the fact that he didn't say that, and that's something you first said and are now quoting as him saying, then yes, that's exactly what he said. 

Oof!

[aRdja]

He’s in Duncan Alexander’s team of the decade. So rapt for him.

 

https://www.unibet.co.uk/blog/football/premier-league/the-premier-league-team-of-the-decade-1.1336776

 

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Alex Ferguson didn’t like his gait but it’s fair to say that Jordan Henderson has outpaced fellow summer 2011 signings Charlie Adam, Stewart Downing and Alexander Doni at Liverpool. Longevity is one thing, and no player has played more Premier League games in the 2010s than Henderson, but 2019 feels like the year that the general public have finally realised the Liverpool captain is actually… good. The first English player to lift the European Cup, the European Super Cup and the World Club Cup in the same year, the only thing Henderson’s gait/gate leads to is a well-stocked trophy cabinet.

 

[VladimirIlyich]

Im with virdjil on this. Henderson has always been a very good player,its just taken a trophy haul for others to see why Klopp has always had faith in him as both a player and a captain.

[Elite]

I've not worried about his gait but I'm very worried about his rotator cuffs, lifting big metal objects above your head on a regular basis can cause havoc.

[El Rojo]

1 minute ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Im with virdjil on this. Henderson has always been a very good player,its just taken a trophy haul for others to see why Klopp has always had faith in him as both a player and a captain.

He’s been extremely important for us for a long time. We’d could well have won the title in 2014 if he wasn’t suspended at the end. Of course, like everyone else, he’s had a few dips in form along the way too. 

[Carvalho Diablo]

4 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

He’s been extremely important for us for a long time. We’d could well have won the title in 2014 if he wasn’t suspended at the end. Of course, like everyone else, he’s had a few dips in form along the way too. 

Fucking Lucas !

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Fucking Lucas !

Chelsea cost us the League by loaning us Moses who played a short pass to Henderson against man city who then tried to win the ball and got sent off. 

[VladimirIlyich]

34 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Chelsea cost us the League by loaning us Moses who played a short pass to Henderson against man city who then tried to win the ball and got sent off. 

Rodgers cost us the title by being a shit manager.  I hate the smug,egotistical twat.

[TheHowieLama]

3 hours ago, viRdjil said:

In any case, very pleased that Klopp persisted with Hendo.

 

 

I think Hendo had to ask to be moved further forward - not sure Klopp was sold on him there otherwise he would have made that move.