Michael Jackson

[FanchesterCity]

Interesting article

 

http://superiorshit.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/who-really-wrote-michael-jacksons.html

[Paul]

Well, I think it IS hard to know. A lot of songwriting credits will be transferred and subject to NDA's... and the outside world never finds out. The fact that the majority of his work was written by others should be a clue.

Documentaries are hardly likely to reveal the true source of lyrics

 

That's not so say he never wrote anything himself, I'm sure he did, I just don't subscribe to the belief that everything he said he wrote, he actually did.

So Rod Temperton and Quincy Jones saying that he was an integral part of the writing process means that he wasn't? OK.

[stringvest]

he may have written some or all of his most famous songs, but his oeuvre of great songs is a little thin for him to be regarded as a genius.  Talented, undoubtedly, but I don't believe he lived up to his potential.  His was already a career of diminishing returns well before all the scandals began to cloak him.

[Sugar Ape]

he may have written some or all of his most famous songs, but his oeuvre of great songs is a little thin for him to be regarded as a genius. Talented, undoubtedly, but I don't believe he lived up to his potential. His was already a career of diminishing returns well before all the scandals began to cloak him.

I don't get why so much emphasis is being placed on him writing his own songs? He produced great music from the Jackson 5 to the end of the 80's, whether he wrote them or not, which means he more than lived up to his potential, for me.

 

Not many acts have the longevity he had. 20 years worth of making good music before he dipped in the 90's.

[VladimirIlyich]

He was a very successful and talented popular singer but I dont believe he was anything more than that. It seemed his private life granted him more fame than his saccharin music in his latter years.

 

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[KMD7]

I think Jackson was a genius Vlad tbh. Where do people stand on Sinatra? I think he was a genius of a performer and as far as I can recall he didn't write any of his own music.

[stringvest]

Sinatra wasn't a genius, but he was a fantastic interpreter of other people's songs.  He was like Jacko in that in order to produce his very best work he needed the right collaborator.  Nelson Riddle and Count Basie could elevate an ok tune to something altogether better. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Michael Jackson was just hype? Wow. Those hundreds of millions of album sales (that he co - wrote) were some trick.

Did I say he was JUST hype

[DPW]

As a simple rule in life, dont trust anyone who doesnt rate MJ. Best not even talking to them. 

[shouter]

Well that article said he took full writing credits for 9 out of the 11 songs in bad including man in the mirror. Well he didn't write that because siedah Garrett wrote that with her songwriting partner. She was the female singer who duetted with Jackson on I just can't stop loving you. She also toured with him as a backing singer on the bad tour. And he certainly didn't write human nature because that was written by Steve porcaro, who was the keyboard player in toto. Jackson was always singing other peoples songs. It was one of Quincy jones roles was to source songs from the many musicians that he worked with in the studio.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

This tells you what songs he wrote/composed.

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&fromrow=1&torow=25&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801&keyID=168593&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Best of Motown was indubitably Marvin & Stevie, both of them had great hits provided by the writing teams at Motown but, they really came into their element after fighting with Gordy and producing the genre defining albums of the 70's. Songs in the key of life, what's going on, innervisions, and let's get it on - this is the kind of music Elvis and Jackson could never reach, they contain far more depth and personality if each artist and the times themselves. Still Elvis & Jackson were great mainstream artists, but I think Gaye and wonder have far greater albums than either.

 

 

 

[Duff Man]

Defo the greatest. I mean you have to be pretty fucking good to touch kids but still be remembered for your music.

[Anubis]

Cant help but think the sub editor was having some fun with his wording of the headline.

 

[neko]

On 02/01/2014 at 12:38, DPW said:

As a simple rule in life, dont trust anyone who doesnt rate MJ. Best not even talking to them. 

This 'rule' works both ways.

[Bjornebye]

On 03/01/2014 at 02:14, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Best of Motown was indubitably Marvin & Stevie, both of them had great hits provided by the writing teams at Motown but, they really came into their element after fighting with Gordy and producing the genre defining albums of the 70's. Songs in the key of life, what's going on, innervisions, and let's get it on - this is the kind of music Elvis and Jackson could never reach, they contain far more depth and personality if each artist and the times themselves. Still Elvis & Jackson were great mainstream artists, but I think Gaye and wonder have far greater albums than either.

 

 

 

Haha I read that in the voice of Patrick Bateman when he’s talking about Phil Collins before he sussudios the fuck out of them two brasses 

[VladimirIlyich]

On 03/01/2014 at 02:14, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Best of Motown was indubitably Marvin & Stevie, both of them had great hits provided by the writing teams at Motown but, they really came into their element after fighting with Gordy and producing the genre defining albums of the 70's. Songs in the key of life, what's going on, innervisions, and let's get it on - this is the kind of music Elvis and Jackson could never reach, they contain far more depth and personality if each artist and the times themselves. Still Elvis & Jackson were great mainstream artists, but I think Gaye and wonder have far greater albums than either.

 

 

 

Michael Jackson and Elvis in the same breath? Not a chance Jackson was anywhere near Elvis. 'Nor was he anywhere near those kids either,m'lud.'

[Carvalho Diablo]

What would Clinton Baptiste think of Jackson? I wonder...

[Anubis]

6 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

What would Clinton Baptiste think of Jackson? I wonder...

 

“I’m getting the word...  ...STRAIGHT!”

[Lee909]

On 03/01/2014 at 02:14, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Best of Motown was indubitably Marvin & Stevie, both of them had great hits provided by the writing teams at Motown but, they really came into their element after fighting with Gordy and producing the genre defining albums of the 70's. Songs in the key of life, what's going on, innervisions, and let's get it on - this is the kind of music Elvis and Jackson could never reach, they contain far more depth and personality if each artist and the times themselves. Still Elvis & Jackson were great mainstream artists, but I think Gaye and wonder have far greater albums than either.

 

 

 

Best of Stax over the best of Motown every day of the week for me

[Mook]

Actions speak louder than words & this speaks pretty fucking loudly...

 

 

[Leyton388]