Ched Evans

[etho]

Seems very strange this..

[Guest ShoePiss]

So yet again the victim becomes the perpetrator. It's actually Michael Essien that should be getting sent down here, he after all started all of this. Just ask Alan Pardew!

[King Emlyn]

I think McDonald would have had some kind of defence in that he honestly believed she would have consented had she been sober maybe based on things she may have said/done earlier in the evening. Obviously Evans could have had no such belief because he's not been with her. Just a guess like.

[Son of L8]

That is some fairly fucked up justice. Moral of the story: if you fancy a little up-and-down on some comatose Welsh bird, make sure you go first.

[Section_31]

I think McDonald would have had some kind of defence in that he honestly believed she would have consented had she been sober maybe based on things she may have said/done earlier in the evening. Obviously Evans could have had no such belief because he's not been with her. Just a guess like.

 

Thing is though the girl said she woke up in the hotel and had no idea how she got there. They both shagged her at the hotel. Coupled with the judge's CCTV comments about her appearing clearly out of it while still out on the town, it just makes no sense. There's a very big piece of the puzzle not being reported here.

[ChrisM]

Anal / DP.

[King Emlyn]

Thing is though the girl said she woke up in the hotel and had no idea how she got there. They both shagged her at the hotel. Coupled with the judge's CCTV comments about her appearing clearly out of it while still out on the town, it just makes no sense. There's a very big piece of the puzzle not being reported here.

Yeah but the point stands. How long had McDonald been with her? Had she earlier been with him sober and she'd given him a promise, therefore he'd have a reasonable defence I would have thought but clearly not the other bozo. Like I say just a guess.

[Ponz]

Yeah but the point stands. How long had McDonald been with her? Had she earlier been with him sober and she'd given him a promise, therefore he'd have a reasonable defence I would have thought but clearly not the other bozo. Like I say just a guess.

 

Irrelevant from a legal standpoint. The issue is whether she was able to consent at the time that the sex occured.

[Phoenix]

I think for the McDonald its easier to aver that he reasonable believed that the girl consented. They were drinking, she returned to his hotel room arm in arm with Mcdonald.

 

Whereas Evans behaviour of conning the receptionist into giving him the key and then joining McDonald in the hotel room and then raping her. Its not as easy to argue reasonable belief of consent.

[Magic Sponge]

I'm gonna sit on the fence with this one until I've heard about the social implications from Major Tom.

[ChicagoRed]

That is some fairly fucked up justice. Moral of the story: if you fancy a little up-and-down on some comatose Welsh bird, make sure you go first.

 

Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!

[mht1892]

Apparently a key witness said they picked her up in a kebab shop, she was off it they were alright and McDonald was heard saying to Evans or vice versa 'she'll do'

 

Something isn't right though, one gets 5 years the rest get nothing.

[Anubis]

Irrelevant from a legal standpoint. The issue is whether she was able to consent at the time that the sex occured.

 

True, but it's whether the jury understood that, and whether they gave McDonald the benefit of the doubt because he'd been with her whereas Evans just turned up for a ride afterwards.

[Magic Sponge]

Apparently a key witness said they picked her up in a kebab shop' date=' she was off it they were alright and McDonald was heard saying to Evans or vice versa 'she'll do'

 

Something isn't right though, one gets 5 years the rest get nothing.[/quote']

 

Let me get this straight. She wanted a kebab but ended up getting stuffed by a McDonalds.

[mht1892]

Hahaha

[Joe Le Taxi]

I think for the McDonald its easier to aver that he reasonable believed that the girl consented. They were drinking, she returned to his hotel room arm in arm with Mcdonald.

 

Whereas Evans behaviour of conning the receptionist into giving him the key and then joining McDonald in the hotel room and then raping her. Its not as easy to argue reasonable belief of consent.

 

Mcdonald carried her to his hotel room. She was passed out according to the hotel receptionist.

[The-Sir]

He was doomed from the start if you ask me. Anyone named Ched is bound to start rapin' hoes sooner or later.

[Phoenix]

Mcdonald carried her to his hotel room. She was passed out according to the hotel receptionist.

 

No she didnt. Dont know where you got that from.

 

She said that she was stumbling and drunk

[moof]

This whole 'too drunk to consent' thing is a load of bollocks anyway isn't it? At least I hope it is....

[Joe Le Taxi]

No she didnt. Dont know where you got that from.

 

She said that she was stumbling and drunk

 

An article quoting the judge.

[Uncle_Meat]

I'm more surprised at the thought of Rhyl having CCTV. In my minds eye the footage is in scratchy, jumpy black and white with captions written in curly writing.

[Phoenix]

An article quoting the judge.

 

link me up please.

[TheHitman]

I blame Pardew after Drogba raped Ched Evans, it was only the beginning.

[HolyHank]

[Welsh]

The girl has been named on twitter and apparently sent Ched Evans down to "win big" not sure what that means but there is a screenshot of some of her tweets doing the rounds.