DUBAI TO MAKE BID

[RedKnight]

Bit of an over reaction.

[Red22]

Daily Mail....

 

You're not fit to run our club, blast Liverpool fans

 

Tom Hicks and George Gillett will be targeted by angry Liverpool fans on Monday in the first orchestrated show of dissent against their Anfield reign.

 

After weeks of voicing their support for Rafa Benitez, over the mounting threat to his position as Liverpool manager, Anfield followers are about to adopt a different approach by turning their fury on his bosses, Hicks and Gillett.

 

Influential website Reclaim The Kop, who organised the pro-Benitez demonstration prior to the Champions League tie with Porto two months ago, have launched a scathing attack on the Americans and urged a capacity Anfield crowd to follow suit against Aston Villa on Monday night.

 

In a press release, they claimed Hicks and Gillett were 'not fit to be associated with our club' and added that forcing them out might be the only way to save Benitez.

 

'We allowed ourselves to believe that they had a gut sense of Liverpool's specialness,' it said. 'They gave a good impression of understanding and cherishing The Liverpool Way, but the current situation is unworkable.

 

'There is a minimum acceptable standard of ownership and Hicks and Gillett have fallen badly short.

 

Rafa, with his ingrained sense of honour, dignity and morality, has been publicly humiliated by them and would have walked away by now but for one small thing the Americans will never get.

 

'He loves it here. He loves the club, the fans, the city and The Liverpool Way. More than anybody at the club, he is desperate to deliver for us that which we long for so badly.

 

'They will sack him in the summer. They have left themselves with no other option, so while it gives us no joy to recommend it, we have to drive them out.

 

'These are critical times for Liverpool FC. If Hicks stays, Rafa goes — simple as that. And if Rafa goes, the empire he is building crumbles. After giving Rafa a vote of no-confidence, he (Hicks) will have to sack him in the summer — unless the owners are not here. We have to give our answer loud and clear, starting on Monday night.'

 

Hicks denied on Thursday that he was considering selling his Anfield stake to Dubai International Capital but he may have second thoughts if vocal backing for Benitez turns into open hostility towards himself and Gillett.

Around 2,000 fans responded to a call from Reclaim The Kop in November and marched from a nearby pub to the ground, shouting slogans and carrying banners.

 

The protests were sparked by Benitez's fears that he was about to be ousted and his hold on power has been eroded still further by Hicks' recent admission that he offered the manager's job to Jurgen Klinsmann.

 

Doubts remain about Benitez's ability to survive beyond the end of the season. As he prepared for the Villa game, he insisted unity within the squad was a strong as ever and made light of an apparent refusal by Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher to back him publicly.

 

Gerrard shook his head when asked whether Tuesday's 5-0 FA Cup third round replay win was 'for the manager', while Carragher admitted he 'hadn't a clue' whether the 47-year old Spaniard could deliver the main prize of a Barclays Premier League title.

 

'I am not concerned about that one bit,' said Benitez. 'We have all spoken before about the importance of doing the right thing for the club, not individuals, and they were echoing what I have always believed.

 

'I have a fantastic relationship with the players, even if I wasn't invited to their Christmas party! The relationship is as good as ever, and Stevie and Carra know I have always supported them strongly.'

 

You're not fit to run our club, blast Liverpool fans | the Daily Mail

 

That there is the sentence, right there.

[Vincent Vega]

where and who has said this is what is gonna happen and what they want happen?

 

 

read the posts before assuming you know what people are thinking.:wallbutt:

 

I've read nothing but people on here pleading for DIC to get rid of the Yanks for weeks now.

 

They are a business and their reason for existence is to spot oppurtunities for aquisitions and to turn these same oppurtunities into money for their benefactors. If you've been hoodwinked Rashid style into thinking the only reason they want to invest in us is because they are fans and care about the club, more fool you.

 

The press got wind of a seven year plan from the Dubai lot, and there were never any denials.

 

If you have a problem with me asking some questions of DIC and their motives, I have to wonder why, I think it's our job as Liverpool supporters.

[Rafa Shankly]

Bit of an over reaction.

using a smiley is an over reaction?

[Rafa Shankly]

I've read nothing but people on here pleading for DIC to get rid of the Yanks for weeks now.

 

They are a business and their reason for existence is to spot oppurtunities for aquisitions and to turn these same oppurtunities into money for their benefactors. If you've been hoodwinked Rashid style into thinking the only reason they want to invest in us is because they are fans and care about the club, more fool you.

 

The press got wind of a seven year plan from the Dubai lot, and there were never any denials.

 

If you have a problem with me asking some questions of DIC and their motives, I have to wonder why, I think it's our job as Liverpool supporters.

but why are people pleading for DIC to get rid of the yanks?

 

because the americans have fucked up to such an extent that something has to give.

would you agree with that?

 

as far as we all know DIC are the only people interested in taking us over,imo that why people want them.

 

im not saying the fact that they are super rich is not a huge incentive,but as it stands we need the americans out and DIC seem to be the only party interested in us.

 

my point is,your assuming were all dreaming of the days when we`l be after messi and kaka.

 

where in fact id say its more a fact that they are our only option and anything has to be better than the 2 clowns who own us now,do you not agree?

[Big Lee]

Did Dic ever really say what their plans for Liverpool where? Or was it the english press making shit up to sell their shitty papers . Just wait and see what happens before we get our hopes up.

[Vincent Vega]

but why are people pleading for DIC to get rid of the yanks?

 

because the americans have fucked up to such an extent that something has to give.

would you agree with that?

 

as far as we all know DIC are the only people interested in taking us over,imo that why people want them.

 

im not saying the fact that they are super rich is not a huge incentive,but as it stands we need the americans out and DIC seem to be the only party interested in us.

 

my point is,your assuming were all dreaming of the days when we`l be after messi and kaka.

 

where in fact id say its more a fact that they are our only option and anything has to be better than the 2 clowns who own us now,do you not agree?

 

I'm probably agreeing that I'd that I'd prefer us to be owned by the Arabs than the Yanks, but I just don't think that we'll see any tangible difference in how the club is run.

 

I think if DIC took over they will expect us to exist within our means which would mean us spending money that the club has earned and can afford.

 

I think some are people are hoping that if they do take over we'll see some kind of mad spending to catch up with the Mancs and Chelsea. I can't see that ever happening and I think it would be a betrayal of what we've always stood for if we did.

 

The club was run for years on a very succesful formula which was that we spotted talent before it came through, bought it cheaply and then watched as they became top players.

 

Some of our best ever players were plucked from nowhere and cost us next to nothing, and I don't think we should ever give up on that philosophy.

[Zippy]

I'm probably agreeing that I'd that I'd prefer us to be owned by the Arabs than the Yanks, but I just don't think that we'll see any tangible difference in how the club is run.

 

I think if DIC took over they will expect us to exist within our means which would mean us spending money that the club has earned and can afford.

 

I think some are people are hoping that if they do take over we'll see some kind of mad spending to catch up with the Mancs and Chelsea. I can't see that ever happening and I think it would be a betrayal of what we've always stood for if we did.

 

The club was run for years on a very succesful formula which was that we spotted talent before it came through, bought it cheaply and then watched as they became top players.

 

Some of our best ever players were plucked from nowhere and cost us next to nothing, and I don't think we should ever give up on that philosophy.

 

I have seen very few people expecting massive spending from DIC. I think people rightly expect them to be very professional in everything they do - running us in a way that doesn't see us putting out fires all the time as we currently are. G and H and DIC both intend to run us as a business its just that IMO and many others DIC would be able to do this far better and more in line with our traditions than G and H. Basically if you compare the credentials of the two groups its a no brainer - DIC ooze class and are very successful in pretty much all they do whilst Hicks particularly in sports has shown only the ability to achieve fuck all and be very unpopular with the fans of his teams.

[Liquid football]

I think some are people are hoping that if they do take over we'll see some kind of mad spending to catch up with the Mancs and Chelsea. I can't see that ever happening and I think it would be a betrayal of what we've always stood for if we did.

 

The people who are talking about that are in the vast minority though. The vast majority of us are in survival mode.

 

To want DIC as the new owners is completely logical. We feel like we actually KNOW the club is screwed with Hicks and Gillet but there is only a chance the club is screwed with DIC so it's a perfectly logical stance to want DIC to buy us.

 

Its like playing russian roulette. If there's 2 guns; one has 9 bullets in (yanks), one has 6. Which one do you take?

 

To me there's just no argument whatsoever for anyone who says they don't want DIC in. Unless they know something the rest of us don't.

[OnizukaEikichi]

I wouldnt care if we spend a lot as long as we are not overpaying. Wealth plays a major in wether you will be successful or not all the time. Right now we are just like a 3rd world country ( probably better a little bit ) in terms of wealth.

[Rex Banner]

I don't want DIC because I t6hink we will go on a mad spending spree with them, I want them because their wealth means stability and im sure we will have a generous transfer kitty also even if it's not Chelsea/Manu proportions.

[Rashid]

Keep up the pressure lads.

[coop]

DIC wont spend money like Abramovich like VV said and they will want a return for any investment they do but i have no problem with that at all as long as we are been run in a way to allow this.

 

DIC have the wealth to start building the stadium asap so there is the vital extra income there. They should also have the vital business knowledge to know we are falling way short of our potential regards marketing and promoting the club around the world.

 

You also have the constant increase in TV money that Liverpool get so as you can see its not difficult for DIC to make money on us as well as us getting the Stadium we crave.

 

I would be amazed if DIC didnt splash the Dubai name all over the new ground as Liverpool Football Club would be their flagship leisure enterprise and as such it would look better for them for us to be in a big shiny new stadium with a winning team.

 

As regards the 7 year exit plan this was strongly denied by DIC and last i heard regards that matter was Ansari was contemplating court action.

[Rafa Shankly]

I don't want DIC because I think we will go on a mad spending spree with them, I want them because their wealth means stability and im sure we will have a generous transfer kitty also even if it's not Chelsea/Manu proportions.

is the right answer,and im sure 99.9% of us who would like them to take over want them for that reason.

[Rafa Shankly]

The club was run for years on a very succesful formula which was that we spotted talent before it came through, bought it cheaply and then watched as they became top players.

 

Some of our best ever players were plucked from nowhere and cost us next to nothing, and I don't think we should ever give up on that philosophy.

be realistic though mate,how likely is that to ever happen again?

 

Theo Walcott-£12 mil

 

its a nice thought,and it would be wonderful if thats the way football was these days,but its not.

[StevieH]

be realistic though mate,how likely is that to ever happen again?

 

Theo Walcott-£12 mil

 

its a nice thought,and it would be wonderful if thats the way football was these days,but its not.

 

Robin Van Persie (Feyernoord to Arsenal - £3m)

Emamanuel Adebayor (Monaco to Arsenal - £3m)

Emmanuel Eboué (Beveren to Arsenal - £1.5m)

Kolo Touré (ASEC Mimosas to Arsenal £150k)

 

Dean Ashton (Crewe to Norwich City - £3m)

[Anubis]

As regards the 7 year exit plan this was strongly denied by DIC and last i heard regards that matter was Ansari was contemplating court action.

From what I recall they did not deny the existence of a document, just that the contents had been misrepresented.

[05 Milan]

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[sh#t waffle]

I'm not so sure that Adebayor cost 3 mill?

I saw it quoted at somewhere between 6 and 7 million the other day.

[lfc4eva99]

I saw it quoted at somewhere between 6 and 7 million the other day.

 

HENRY HAILS ADEBAYOR | Football Transfer News, Football News, Fixtures, Results, Match Reports, Stats

 

or

 

Emmanuel Adebayor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Vincent Vega]

Robin Van Persie (Feyernoord to Arsenal - £3m)

Emamanuel Adebayor (Monaco to Arsenal - £3m)

Emmanuel Eboué (Beveren to Arsenal - £1.5m)

Kolo Touré (ASEC Mimosas to Arsenal £150k)

 

Dean Ashton (Crewe to Norwich City - £3m)

 

My point entirely Stevie. Arsenal are the club we should hold up as an example. We need to get far better at spending the money we do have. Our best players of the last 15 years all came through the academy, Torres and Reina apart.

 

 

*Soccerbase have Adebayor as costing £7m

 

www.soccerbase.com - The Internet Soccer Database

[discuit]

The BBC Understands......

[Rafa Shankly]

My point entirely Stevie. Arsenal are the club we should hold up as an example. We need to get far better at spending the money we do have. Our best players of the last 15 years all came through the academy, Torres and Reina apart.

 

 

*Soccerbase have Adebayor as costing £7m

 

www.soccerbase.com - The Internet Soccer Database

are we not trying to do that though,has rafa not completely reshaped our youth set up?

 

wenger is in a league of his own as far as finding unknown talent but at the same time they have youth players who cost 6/7/8 million.

 

thats a hell of a lot of money to spend on a youth player,so even though they can pick up the odd bargain(4 players is hardly a good point to base your argument on)they still go out and spend mega bucks when need be,just like everyone else.

 

should really start another thread for this discussion because its kinda taking this thread off course.

[Jay Glover]

Something about a team having to come from Mars to beat us.

 

isnt that a shankly quote???

[coop]

isnt that a shankly quote???

 

Yep sure is.