Coronavirus

[scudger99]

1 hour ago, Elite said:

Boxer? 

Full contact martial arts, quite a while ago now though.

You don't forget the mindset even if you're forced to quit.

[scudger99]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

I was absolutely fucked after my first one (AstraZeneca), banging headache for days, felt sick and lethargic for about a week and my arm looked like Hellboy it was so red and swollen for about ten days afterwards. Not much you can do except take painkillers and keep hydrated and take some antihistamines if your arm is swollen. 
 

Had my second dose on Thursday and was dreading it but have had hardly any side effects at all. Slight pain in my arm for a day and that’s about it so I wouldn’t worry about the second jab. 

Defo got the lethargy thing, even changing the bedclothing was a monumental effort that has just left me knackered.  There's not even a mark on my arm where they stuck the needle in funnily enough, and I usually bruise looking at a needle.

And I can't tell you how pleased I am to hear about the apparent ease of the 2nd dose, I was already dreading that shit.

Having a phobia about needles really didn't help either.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

International travel this summer is “extremely unlikely” for the average British holidaymaker, Dr Mike Tildesley, a scientist advising the UK government, warned on Saturday.

What could possibly go wrong with this statement?

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, scudger99 said:

Full contact martial arts, quite a while ago now though.

You don't forget the mindset even if you're forced to quit.

Train hard, fight easy.

 

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.

 

My favourite technique was the quarter blood technique. I do this, you'll lose a quarter of your blood.

[DJLJ]

2 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

I think only about 40% of vaccines so far administered in the UK were made in the UK. The rest was made in the EU and India. First Astra Zeneca doses administered in the UK were made in Germany and Netherlands. As for Pfizer, UK has so far produced only components. 

What needs to be done is abandon protectionary measures, primarily in the US, and those in the UK that are the result of UK's supply agreement with AZ, because that will only strongly push other countries where the vaccines are produced to do the same, as is now happening with India. If EU member state go the same way with export controls, UK wouldn't have much choice in "helping" other countries.

 

Interestingly, the strongest backlash against AZ vaccine is now coming from Nordic countries, which are least reliant on it and affected by the shortfall in deliveries to the EU and furthest ahead in vaccination. This leads me to believe that the main motivation is to force export controls in the EU, primarily on BioNTech's vaccine (Phizer), because that is what they want, not AZ. Because if the EU goes the way of US and UK, i.e. what is made here stays here, they would have enough BioNtech for the EU, with the poorer members getting mostly AZ, which is clearly seen as inferior by the richest countries.

 

Wait what? This came from Norway that isn’t in the EU? How can they then force anything?

[SasaS]

28 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

Wait what? This came from Norway that isn’t in the EU? How can they then force anything?

All four Nordic countries are still pausing AZ, it is not just Norway.

EC is under constant and increasing pressure from member states to do something about shortfalls in supply as well as make steps towards solving the problem of differences within the EU, caused by different approaches in ordering when quotas were distributed (lower income countries ordered less, so the higher income countries used some of their quotas, which affects the rate of delivery at this stage, even with same supplier). So different areas also have their own agendas, countries falling behind the EU average are pushing for different internal redistribution, whilst leading countries want to see tougher export controls, towards countries that manufacture and don't export in particular.
 

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Train hard, fight easy.

 

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.

 

My favourite technique was the quarter blood technique. I do this, you'll lose a quarter of your blood.

Sweep the queg 

[tokyojoe]

Seems I've been luckier than some. I had the Pfizer jab three weeks ago and had just a bit of arm ache which lasted less than 24 hours. Probably be bolloxed when I have the follow up though, haven't got a date for that yet.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, tokyojoe said:

Seems I've been luckier than some. I had the Pfizer jab three weeks ago and had just a bit of arm ache which lasted less than 24 hours. Probably be bolloxed when I have the follow up though, haven't got a date for that yet.

Same, I had the AZ jab on Tuesday of this week. No blood from the arm, the woman said I could go now as the jab had been done. I think I experienced some dizziness but that's about it. Must be all the Vitamin D I take.

[mattyq]

4 hours ago, scudger99 said:

I had my first innoculation yesterday morning, part 1 of 2.

Illness and injury don't usually slow me down too much, but today I am fucked.

3pm and I'm still lying on my bed in my dressing gown, getting hot flushes.

I woke up with an absolute cunt of a headache and am just plain knackered.

I rolled over on the injection site in my arm during the night and by fuck it was painful.

I used to take a lot of punishment on my arms and didn't let it affect me, but I can barely raise my arm this afternoon.

Hopefully it doesn't last long, but I'm not looking forward to a repeat performance of this shit.

Same here

Had the AZ yesterday and was ok last night.

Today my arm is fucking agony, got a banging headache, dodgy guts and alternate between shivering and sweating. Really hope it goes by tomorrow, it's shit!!

 

ps don't want to sound ungrateful. Very happy to get the vaccine, just wish it wasn't so painful 

[scudger99]

29 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Same here

Had the AZ yesterday and was ok last night.

Today my arm is fucking agony, got a banging headache, dodgy guts and alternate between shivering and sweating. Really hope it goes by tomorrow, it's shit!!

 

ps don't want to sound ungrateful. Very happy to get the vaccine, just wish it wasn't so painful 

I had the shivering shit last night, at times just couldn't get warm.  Then today with the hot flushes.  I was looking forward to a few cans tonight, but even the thought of consuming booze makes me feel queasy,

[an tha]

8 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Foreign holidays unlikely this summer! Motherfucker!

If we get on top of this and if we have vaccinated most people by June/July and the continent or elsewhere in world hasn't then fuck foreign holidays.

 

Borders should be closed and we should stop travel as much as can both ways.

 

I'd rather have my life back to some sort of daily normality than have two weeks in Magaluf etc.

[suzy]

8 hours ago, an tha said:

If we get on top of this and if we have vaccinated most people by June/July and the continent or elsewhere in world hasn't then fuck foreign holidays.

 

Borders should be closed and we should stop travel as much as can both ways.

 

I'd rather have my life back to some sort of daily normality than have two weeks in Magaluf etc.

Absolutely! I’ve booked an apartment in July for the Lakes, didn’t want to book it too early but every time I looked they’d put the price up! 

[Mudface]

I'll be going down to my Mum's for a couple of weeks at the start of July. By then, we won't have seen her for 2 years, so I hope they don't screw things up again in the meantime.

 

We were supposed to go to New York last September for my missus's 50th, that got pushed back to around now, and then rearranged until this time next year, so that'll probably be the first foreign trip we take.

[Scott_M]

My wife and I have both had to work decently paid full time jobs and home school over the past year. I know we’re not the only ones but we don’t really have Grandparents to call upon, so it just the two of us.

 

I’m desperate for some time laying on back, browning up like a rotisserie chicken & drinking ice cold beer. 
 

Even more desperate for quality time with my daughter, instead of telling her “I can’t I’m busy” or “Here’s the iPad, be quiet”. 

I think / hope / pray the next 4 months will make it achievable. 

 

[an tha]

1 hour ago, suzy said:

Absolutely! I’ve booked an apartment in July for the Lakes, didn’t want to book it too early but every time I looked they’d put the price up! 

Thats the other side of it - prices here which are already often a rip off are gonna be ridiculous.

 

Personally i'll swerve it this year and maybe even next.....just having the ale houses, footy, casinos, bookies and the pictures, bowling alleys and other places can take kids open will be enough for me, fuck paying silly money for a week or two somewhere.

 

Also would hate to see all those things and more be shuttered again and our lives echo the last year again with kids stuck at home and not at school, having to work from home and try and school them, not seeing friends etc etc etc etc....just because we let people go off all over the world bringing virus back with them....we are an island and we should be able to keep the virus out better than rest of Europe and a lot of world....we should have been able to from start, but were too incompetent to 

 

You can still do a lot of stuff with kids etc from home - theme parks, the baths etc etc etc.

 

For me holidays and travel abroad this year should be a massive no no....unless other countries are vaccinated to high levels and virus is not running amok....look at Europe right now - who would want to go France etc right now?!

 

 

[suzy]

23 minutes ago, an tha said:

Thats the other side of it - prices here which are already often a rip off are gonna be ridiculous.

 

Personally i'll swerve it this year and maybe even next.....just having the ale houses, footy, casinos, bookies and the pictures, bowling alleys and other places can take kids open will be enough for me, fuck paying silly money for a week or two somewhere.

 

Also would hate to see all those things and more be shuttered again and our lives echo the last year again with kids stuck at home and not at school, having to work from home and try and school them, not seeing friends etc etc etc etc....just because we let people go off all over the world bringing virus back with them....we are an island and we should be able to keep the virus out better than rest of Europe and a lot of world....we should have been able to from start, but were too incompetent to 

 

You can still do a lot of stuff with kids etc from home - theme parks, the baths etc etc etc.

 

For me holidays and travel abroad this year should be a massive no no....unless other countries are vaccinated to high levels and virus is not running amok....look at Europe right now - who would want to go France etc right now?!

 

 

I just want a change of scenery, I hope to have a couple of meals out and go for walks (on this holiday) and chill out. Husband worked throughout and I’ve walked throughout but at home. I walk round my local streets but it’s all residential and we’re 50 mins from the coast so going away works for us. 
 

The main thing I want is to have my 2 year old grandson here again, I used to look after him one day a week and I really miss him. Luckily son’s partner seems keen for me to have him back in June! 

[Harry's Lad]

2 hours ago, suzy said:

I just want a change of scenery, I hope to have a couple of meals out and go for walks (on this holiday) and chill out. Husband worked throughout and I’ve walked throughout but at home. I walk round my local streets but it’s all residential and we’re 50 mins from the coast so going away works for us. 
 

The main thing I want is to have my 2 year old grandson here again, I used to look after him one day a week and I really miss him. Luckily son’s partner seems keen for me to have him back in June! 

That last paragraph really strikes a chord with me.

I have 5 Grandkids, the oldest is 9 next month and the youngest 21 months and prior to Covid, I saw them all most days. Because of shielding, the last 12 months have been really hard.

I can't wait to have them all round for sleepovers so I can spoil them rotten.

[an tha]

4 hours ago, suzy said:

I just want a change of scenery, I hope to have a couple of meals out and go for walks (on this holiday) and chill out. Husband worked throughout and I’ve walked throughout but at home. I walk round my local streets but it’s all residential and we’re 50 mins from the coast so going away works for us. 
 

The main thing I want is to have my 2 year old grandson here again, I used to look after him one day a week and I really miss him. Luckily son’s partner seems keen for me to have him back in June! 

I hear you.

 

We haven't been away since 2018...are stuck a fair whack from coast...i have been working from home for a year now and had a 10/11 year old here whilst doing so instead of being at school for a lot of it.

 

Millions are in same boat and worse of course and its shite, we are not meant to live (well it isn't living is it, it is just surviving/existing) like this - i just personally won't pay ridiculous money for sake of a couple of weeks when could put that money to use whilst still at home and still do loads of stuff with lad etc...theme parks, safari parks, zoos, baths, play places etc etc and of course go out for a pint and that....but each to their own.

 

When (if) things and prices normalise then i'll look to get away and as for abroad - swerving that for this year is best idea IMHO.

 

Great stuff about grandson - lets hope never have to be parted again like this.

 

 

[suzy]

2 hours ago, Harry's Lad said:

That last paragraph really strikes a chord with me.

I have 5 Grandkids, the oldest is 9 next month and the youngest 21 months and prior to Covid, I saw them all most days. Because of shielding, the last 12 months have been really hard.

I can't wait to have them all round for sleepovers so I can spoil them rotten.

It’s hard isn’t it? I really thought I wouldn’t have him again because she’s working from home and is never keen to give him up! She did actually say it would be good for her to get back to the office which I didn’t think she’d say. 
He’s such a happy smiley boy but he got a bit shy over the summer. They came for a doorstep visit last weekend and he kept edging closer to me! Love him!

[suzy]

34 minutes ago, an tha said:

I hear you.

 

We haven't been away since 2018...are stuck a fair whack from coast...i have been working from home for a year now and had a 10/11 year old here whilst doing so instead of being at school for a lot of it.

 

Millions are in same boat and worse of course and its shite, we are not meant to live (well it isn't living is it, it is just surviving/existing) like this - i just personally won't pay ridiculous money for sake of a couple of weeks when could put that money to use whilst still at home and still do loads of stuff with lad etc...theme parks, safari parks, zoos, baths, play places etc etc and of course go out for a pint and that....but each to their own.

 

When (if) things and prices normalise then i'll look to get away and as for abroad - swerving that for this year is best idea IMHO.

 

Great stuff about grandson - lets hope never have to be parted again like this.

 

 

I agree about the ridiculous money but I was happy with the price I’ve paid, some of the places I looked up were ridiculous.

[an tha]

48 minutes ago, suzy said:

It’s hard isn’t it? I really thought I wouldn’t have him again because she’s working from home and is never keen to give him up! She did actually say it would be good for her to get back to the office which I didn’t think she’d say. 
He’s such a happy smiley boy but he got a bit shy over the summer. They came for a doorstep visit last weekend and he kept edging closer to me! Love him!

It is hard....we are not meant to be kept away from others and from loved ones.

 

We are not meant to have no social lives etc.

 

Hardest part for me is just every day being the same...ok i have managed to start exercising again and lost weight which is great - but every day is the same, and it is relentless.

 

I fear there is more of this come too later in year and i fear social distancing and masks will be around for ages too.

 

I fear for my lad growing up and missing out on so much, and growing up in a world where people are afraid of going near each other and walk around with half their faces covered....I fear for his development, socially and emotionally and i fear for kids like your grandson who as you say has become shy...millions of young kids are currently growing up not knowing what hugging or interacting/playing/being with people outside immediate family is like and it is fucked up.

 

At times it feels like normality will never return, or at least not for years and that is deeply depressing.

 

Lets hope not case eh and people like you and your grandson and everybody else can be happy, together and free again and not living in fear and not living restricted lives.

 

At some point sooner rather than later IMHO we have to say we have done all that is reasonably practicable and that can be expected to lower risk and get on with living again and look to the future, learning to live with covid as opposed to just looking to exist with it.

 

[halewood pete]

[halewood pete]

[suzy]

1 hour ago, an tha said:

It is hard....we are not meant to be kept away from others and from loved ones.

 

We are not meant to have no social lives etc.

 

Hardest part for me is just every day being the same...ok i have managed to start exercising again and lost weight which is great - but every day is the same, and it is relentless.

 

I fear there is more of this come too later in year and i fear social distancing and masks will be around for ages too.

 

I fear for my lad growing up and missing out on so much, and growing up in a world where people are afraid of going near each other and walk around with half their faces covered....I fear for his development, socially and emotionally and i fear for kids like your grandson who as you say has become shy...millions of young kids are currently growing up not knowing what hugging or interacting/playing/being with people outside immediate family is like and it is fucked up.

 

At times it feels like normality will never return, or at least not for years and that is deeply depressing.

 

Lets hope not case eh and people like you and your grandson and everybody else can be happy, together and free again and not living in fear and not living restricted lives.

 

At some point sooner rather than later IMHO we have to say we have done all that is reasonably practicable and that can be expected to lower risk and get on with living again and look to the future, learning to live with covid as opposed to just looking to exist with it.

 

Well said.