Other football - 2017/18 edition.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Mourinho is full of shit too. He had nobody on the bench apparently.

 

The BBC did a hatchet job, cunts. I hate Danny Murphy, but at least he had the Gaul to say it as it was. 

 

IMO the BBC are dying to use Klopp as their latest "Let's try and get some foreign manager sacked". 

[Faustus]

Am I the only one left cold by City? Don't get me wrong, their football is exceptional, as are a number of their players, but it's just that when I weigh that alongside the cost it took Guardiola to implement his grand vision, I can't help but shrug my shoulders.

 

It's not managing or coaching as such, it's just bankrolled theory. "Give me £150m to spend on three full backs." "Alright, yeah."

 

They'll win the league this season and I'll just shrug my shoulders. All things considered, I personally think that what Pochettino is doing at Spurs is far more impressive.

[Lee909]

 

 

Am I the only one left cold by City?.

How cant you be

The City back 4 cost more than our starting 11 yesterday off the top of my head. Any wonder they can run off with the league.

[Faustus]

Yeah, defo. It's just all very 'meh', to me. I think even the job Conte did last season will have eclipsed a City title win this season, apart from if they do something astounding like go the campaign unbeaten.

 

The analogy I gave a mate the other day over Guardiola is that it's similar to how if you're making a billion pound blockbuster, there's probably nobody better to get in than Steven Speilberg. You know he'll pull off the spectacular and you'll enjoy watching it, but you'll just wander around later that day without any of it permeating your consciousness. Just all very disposable and clinical. At the same time, like fuck you'd have him directing an indie film, nor would I suspect he'd even remotely be interested in doing so.

[Red Phoenix]

It's not often that all three of my fantasy footie strikers let me down, but seeing Chelsea and Arsenal defeated (they have two of them) on livescore makes up for it easily.

[3 Stacks]

Yeah, defo. It's just all very 'meh', to me. I think even the job Conte did last season will have eclipsed a City title win this season, apart from if they do something astounding like go the campaign unbeaten.

 

The analogy I gave a mate the other day over Guardiola is that it's similar to how if you're making a billion pound blockbuster, there's probably nobody better to get in than Steven Speilberg. You know he'll pull off the spectacular and you'll enjoy watching it, but you'll just wander around later that day without any of it permeating your consciousness. Just all very disposable and clinical. At the same time, like fuck you'd have him directing an indie film, nor would I suspect he'd even remotely be interested in doing so.

 

His career is the equivalent of a kid finishing college, somehow immediately getting a CEO job at a Fortune 500 company and then taking the stock through the roof.

 

That guy wouldn't then take a job at a failing business through the kindness of his heart or to prove something to his doubters.

[Faustus]

I'm not a 'doubter'- he's clearly a very good manager- but I'm just left cold by him and his team. He's even acknowledged it himself that he couldn't see himself undertaking a 'project' like Klopp, Pochettino, even Wenger, have all done. Personally, people who've achieved success that way are worthy of far more credit.

 

It's like a chef requiring only the very best ingredients in the best possible kitchen in order to make a tasty dish.

 

To be honest, the polarised nature of the Guardiola debate bores me; the way he's either a fraud or a genius. The very nature of it is cheap and thoughtless. It's more nuanced than that and I suppose it's down to what you're after really.

 

 

Personally, I love managers who undertake challenges and completely model clubs in their own image, so I'll always view achievements that come that way in greater light. And that's not saying I decry Guardiola's achievements at Barca and Bayern, just I regard Klopp's success at Dortmund in higher esteem.

 

It's all just a bit 'kid playing FM on sugar daddy' mode. Congrats on winning the league, mate, nice one, but there's nothing like heavily stacking the deck in your favour, eh?

[Tj hooker]

MOTD highlights of our game were a fucking joke. They obviously tried to make the game look as shit as they could and to make it look like a bore draw. They can fuck off, Tory loving fucking wank stains.

Spot on since when does a Liverpool v Man utd match end up last regardless of the score

[Anubis]

According to the BBC Fat Sam is tempted by the Scotland job but the timing isn't right.

 

What he really means is not enough potential for side earnings.

[Jockey]

Wasn't a penalty against Arsenal. But little boys cheated so it is okay. Maybe ask Troy Deeney about that ?

[Baltar]

De Bruyne looks to be as good as Lampard or Gerrard. Still has a way to go to win as much as both of those guys, but he's wonderful to watch. Seems a decent level headed lad too.

He's outrageously good. Playing in a good attacking side too which can only help. If he was at United under Jose he would be nowhere near this effective.

[Trumo]

Wasn't a penalty against Arsenal. But little boys cheated so it is okay. Maybe ask Troy Deeney about that ?

 

Deeney spouts that hard man shite on a regular basis.

[FanchesterCity]

Anybody else had issues where a post appears blank?

[Jockey]

Anybody else had issues where a post appears blank?

[TheHowieLama]

 If he was at United Chelsea under Jose he would be nowhere.

[Tj hooker]

This Brighton / Everton match is a bit of non event plenty of possession by the bitters but no cutting edge surprise surprise badly needs a goal

[Boss]

I'm not a 'doubter'- he's clearly a very good manager- but I'm just left cold by him and his team. He's even acknowledged it himself that he couldn't see himself undertaking a 'project' like Klopp, Pochettino, even Wenger, have all done. Personally, people who've achieved success that way are worthy of far more credit.

 

It's like a chef requiring only the very best ingredients in the best possible kitchen in order to make a tasty dish.

 

To be honest, the polarised nature of the Guardiola debate bores me; the way he's either a fraud or a genius. The very nature of it is cheap and thoughtless. It's more nuanced than that and I suppose it's down to what you're after really.

 

Personally, I love managers who undertake challenges and completely model clubs in their own image, so I'll always view achievements that come that way in greater light. And that's not saying I decry Guardiola's achievements at Barca and Bayern, just I regard Klopp's success at Dortmund in higher esteem.

 

It's all just a bit 'kid playing FM on sugar daddy' mode. Congrats on winning the league, mate, nice one, but there's nothing like heavily stacking the deck in your favour, eh?

 

I don't understand this point of view, at all. Would you say "Messi, yeah, he was a great player but he didn't test himself by playing for Plymouth Argyle"?

 

Why would the best, settle for anything less than the best? Why would the best chef, not cook with the best ingredients? or the best manager, not want to work with the best players? To test themselves? They're testing themselves already, at the highest possible level. 

 

Show me an example of a top sportsman, in any sport, that's just decided to walk away from the top level (in their prime) and sign up at a much lower level, in the same sport, wilfully, just to prove a point. 

[TheHowieLama]

 

Show me an example of a top sportsman, in any sport, that's just decided to walk away from the top level (in their prime) and sign up at a much lower level

 

LeBron James

[Anubis]

Commentator speak. 'Gloriously uncomplicated' is the new 'yard dog.'

[Boss]

LeBron James

 

When did he do that?

[cloggypop]

Oh Everton.

[Sputnik1]

Holy shit did I read that right, Brighton winning?

[Anubis]

Get in. Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh.

[clangers]

Terrible defending, what a pity.

[TheHowieLama]

When did he do that?

 

When he chose to leave the best team in the league to join the worst?