Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

He's a fucking fake.

I can assure you he is not.

 

[moof]

He’s a bright lad so he’ll know exactly what he’s doing. I don’t like it either. He is definitely guilty of spinning shit to suit his agenda on occasion. He’s certainly not great on Israel/Palestine 

[Red Phoenix]

4 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

I can assure you he is not.

 

I think he is on this. For a while I've thought he was cool, and he has touched on some real issues that I've been surprised at, but I'm not having the latest shit he's been going on about whilst ignoring so many key things. I think he's a fraud when it comes to this subject and he'll often be a divisive figure as time passes on other key subjects, maybe before backtracking later on if things don't go his way.

 

I'm done with believing he's just out to help Labour and that's all he's doing.

[Red Phoenix]

I accept that there's a chance I'm being too "conspiratorial" and Jones is just amazingly ignorant on parts of this problem. Maybe he'd even think I was being an anti-Semite if he knew of my views on this subject, so maybe we'd both be mistaken about each other. But he seems like such an intelligent guy that it baffles me how he's not seen some of the over the top crap going on. If nothing else he's highly ignorant of some of the aspects of what's happening here.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Or maybe he just holds an opinion contrary to your own?

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, moof said:

He’s a bright lad so he’ll know exactly what he’s doing. I don’t like it either. He is definitely guilty of spinning shit to suit his agenda on occasion. He’s certainly not great on Israel/Palestine 

Aye, he's just playing the game. Possibly a little too accepting of the rules. 

[Red Phoenix]

35 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Or maybe he just holds an opinion contrary to your own?

 

For someone of his intelligence going on about anti-Semitism regularly like he does, to not give a fair share of acceptance of the other side of this is just ignorant for me. All of the other side are just dismissed and probably in his eyes anti-Semites themselves.

 

And he's still a cunt too for that all conspiracism = anti-Semitism comment. How fucking stupid you have to be on that subject to believe that I can't get my head around. Maybe that's why I got a bit kneejerk, it's crazily wrong.

[Red Phoenix]

Chomsky bang on again :

 

 

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Chris Williamson has been suspended. 

 

Can anybody tell me which bit of the IHRA definition he's breached? Or has he just upset people for not agreeing with the narrative they're trying to push? 

[M_B]

49 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Chomsky bang on again :

 

 

 

 

 

But Chomsky promotes Holocaust denial. Rachel Riley said so.

 

[Scooby Dudek]

Trial by media and the PLP, if he is not thrown out of the party it will prove Corbyn is a jew hater. 

 

It will never be enough for them. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

He's apparently been suspended for being provocative towards (aka disagreeing with) the Jewish community (apart from the "wrong kind of/self-hating Jews")

 

He was a bit of a troll and his comment could've been better worded. But, he's essentially been suspended for not agreeing with the lie that Labour is "institutionally antisemitic." 

 

It sets a very dangerous precedent. 

[moof]

34 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Chris Williamson has been suspended. 

 

Can anybody tell me which bit of the IHRA definition he's breached? Or has he just upset people for not agreeing with the narrative they're trying to push? 

*sigh* 

 

Appeasement never works. 

[Strontium]

Timely repost of Oz Katerji's excellent article from last August.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2018/08/labour-can-be-jo-cox-s-party-or-chris-williamson-s-it-cannot-be-both

[moof]

Oz fucking Katerji. You’ve really jumped the shark now you fucking nut

[Anubis]

12 minutes ago, moof said:

*sigh* 

 

Appeasement never works. 

Just ask the ‘Red’ Echo.

[Strontium]

Haha, how could I guess that a brilliant journalist like Katerji would not meet your approval.

 

I await your usual forensic takedown...

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Haha, how could I guess that a brilliant journalist like Katerji would not meet your approval.

 

I await your usual forensic takedown...

Take my balls down your throat 

[moof]

I’ve had personal dealings with Katerji. He’s completely unhinged. “Brilliant journalist” fuck the fuck off, nobhead. 

[Strontium]

Of course you have.

 

Feel free to address the argument rather than the man, any time you want.

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Of course you have.

 

Feel free to address the argument rather than the man, any time you want.

What is the argument? That he isn’t a gaping chasm of a vagina of a man? Well, he is. Consider the argument forensically addressed, dickwad. 

[Red Phoenix]

57 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Chris Williamson has been suspended.

 

Haha, totally mad. The more they push the closer we get to the right reaction from enough people. Hope it arrives before the Labour Party is destroyed.

[Strontium]

Actually, I was rather hoping you'd address the argument made in his article. Never mind.

[Barrington Womble]

i have had the parliament station on in the background this afternoon. all a bit groundhog day with brexit. not for the 1st time though, i thought david lammy was bang on. i don't know too much about him - but why isn't he in the shadow cabinet? he's about the only one on the labour benches who absolutely nails the tories every time. that is what we need from the opposition. maybe i just see/read specific bits he's good on, but he seems head and shoulders above nearly all the labour front bench. 

[Barrington Womble]

On 2/26/2019 at 11:58 AM, Anubis said:

Soubry looks aghast at having to dine in Nando’s and use her fingers.

to be honest, you don't have to be an ex-tory twat to be aghast at nando's. fucking awful place where the chicken tastes of nothing but the shite sauce they cover it in.