Labour Leadership Contest

[Rocky Sullivan]

I'd like to live in a world where Jeremy Corbyn wins the Labour party leadership.

[Jairzinho]

And Bernie Sanders wins the Democrat leadership.

[Turkish Delight]

 

 

Can't be arsed getting into the same debate with the same people about Labour except to say I agree with I think it was Paul who said you've got to change it from the inside which is why I joined as I wanted my say in the election. If this cunt gets in however I'l be cancelling my membership within minutes. Suffice to say I think it's worth paying the membership fee for a vote if only to ensure she gets no where near it. I fucking despise her.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/greeces-syriza-are-extremists-engaging-in-fantasy-politics-labours-liz-kendall-says-10377755.html

 

Greece's Syriza are 'extremists' engaging in 'fantasy politics', Labour's Liz Kendall says

 

Greece’s governing Syriza party are “extremists” engaging in “fantasy politics”, a contender for the Labour leadership has said.

 

Wading into the Greek crisis, Liz Kendall said Labour should not follow the course of left-wing party, which has faced down creditors and EU institutions to reject austerity in the face of international pressure.

"We progressive social democratic parties have to find a credible alternative to the ever-continuing austerity ... on the one hand, and the fantasy politics of Syriza and Podemos on the other," she told an event hosted by the news channel CNBC.

"And that is just as much, I believe, a challenge for the UK Labour party as it is for our sister parties right across Europe.

"We have to find a different alternative, otherwise we will allow the extremists – whether from the left or the right – to come in.”

She later added: "Trying to turn Labour into some kind of Syriza or Podemos party or simply saying what we’ve said over the past five years – albeit with a leader with a different gender or a different accent – will not cut the mustard."

Ms Kendall is one of four contenders for the leadership of her party, the other three being Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham, and Jeremy Corbyn.

The Labour MP is widely viewed as the candidate most favoured by the centrist or 'Blairite' wing of the party, though she has said she rejects such a label.

Her competitor Mr Corbyn has previously called for Greece’s debt to be cancelled as a “signal to the banks and financiers that we won’t keep bailing them out for reckless lending”.

Ms Kendall’s attack on the Greek government is also in contrast to the approach of the Green Party.

The environmentalists’ MP Caroline Lucas said last week that European authorities had deliberately set out to “humiliate” the country with austerity.

“Austerity isn’t only socially destructive, as we know – it is economically deluded as well. Greece’s government debt to GDP ratio hasn’t gone down as austerity was imposed, it has increased,” she told a crowd in Trafalgar Square,” she told a solidarity demonstration in Trafalgar Square.

“This was never about supporting the people of Greece – it has always been about humiliating and defeating a government which has dared to stand up to the ideology of austerity.”

A poll of Greek voters conducted by the University of Macedonia last month found that Syriza had an 18-point lead over its nearest rival, a dramatic increase in support since its entered government.

A poll taken at the same time in the UK showed Labour 12 points behind the Conservatives a month after a shock election defeat.

The Greek government, led by Alexis Tsipras, is trying to forge a last-minute deal with creditors after a referendum giving it a mandate to reject an earlier proposal.

I've recently joined too for the same reason of trying to make a difference.

 

I followed her on Twitter while I was learning what she was about as I'd never heard of her when she announced she was running for leader. Within a couple of weeks I'd unfollowed her as she'd retweeted an interview she had with the S*n on to my timeline. The tweet also made it clear she was Murdoch's candidate so that told me all I need to know. An absolute cunt.

[Creator Supreme]

I see Greg Davies binned her off the other week, he's desperate, but not that desperate!

[Boss]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11680098/Why-are-so-many-Tories-joining-Labour-after-Jeremy-Corbyns-leadership-announcement.html

[Gnasher]

They should get in that Greek finance fella, the one who rides a motorbike.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Get steve keen, yannis, thomas pickety and voice alternatives. I'd do it just to see the press reaction. My guess is it would go full bullshit hyperbole.

[Jairzinho]

Get steve keen, yannis, thomas pickety and voice alternatives. I'd do it just to see the press reaction. My guess is it would go full bullshit hyperbole.

 

I'd get Ken O'Keefe to do press conferences.

[VladimirIlyich]

And Bernie Sanders wins the Democrat leadership.

And I always thought he was an independent!

Its hard to believe he's a member of either US party.

[VladimirIlyich]

They should get in that Greek finance fella, the one who rides a motorbike.

Iaion Ayriakos?

[Scooby Dudek]

And I always thought he was an independent!

Its hard to believe he's a member of either US party.

He is an independent, however with having left leanings, he tends to side more with the Democrats than the Republicans. 

I am not exactly sure how it works, (I assume he has to join the party) and then hope to be nominated by the Democratic party.

[Jairzinho]

He's running as a Democrat because he's knows full well that it is impossible to get anywhere as an Independent. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

I don't think Sanders could garner enough media support and reach enough people to compete with Clinton in the end. Ron Paul had a similar kind of grass roots support but when it mattered the money and media exposure elevated those with the most of both. I think he'd be great for the US and as a by product the world in general.

 

Corbyn has even less chance. Kendell or Cooper whichever one decides to climb aboard the Murdoch shaft. 

 

Is it bitter to hope that those working class Sun readers who voted Tory have been dry bummed by the Budget.

[Jairzinho]

Umunna's final contribution to QT last night was to back Kendall.

[Section_31]

Is it wrong that I like the thought of Cooper and Sturgeon lezzing up? 

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Umunna's final contribution to QT last night was to back Kendall.

The fucking state if the Labour party since Blair and Brown is disgusting. Blair at least had a vision and was coherent. Brown was at least a political beast.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Is it wrong that I like the thought of Cooper and Sturgeon lezzing up?

Yes. Badly.

[Jairzinho]

The fucking state if the Labour party since Blair and Brown is disgusting. Blair at least had a vision and was coherent. Brown was at least a political beast.

 

Yes, they're both ideologically disgusting and completely incompetent.

[stringvest]

The fucking state if the Labour party since Blair and Brown is disgusting. Blair at least had a vision and was coherent. Brown was at least a political beast.

 

clearly not as political as Blair.

[Scooby Dudek]

He's running as a Democrat because he's knows full well that it is impossible to get anywhere as an Independent. 

Just to add;

 

“Like many leftists before him, the Democratic party has co-opted and changed Sanders, using him to help hinder the development of a genuine alternative to the capitalist parties,” added Ashley Smith in Socialist Worker. 

But Sanders has been adamant from the outset of his campaign that he does not want to follow third-party candidates like Ralph Nader and risk letting in a Republican president by splitting the progressive vote, which is why he stood as a Democrat and not an independent, he said.

[Scooby Dudek]

What I have also noticed the last few days, which annoys me. Unbelievably it has now become the narrative that the Tax credits cut is a lot more than the increase in wage, thus attacking working poor, which is wrong. Also not correct that Rich Bosses are having their profits increased by tax payer subsidising low wages.

 

I would agree with all of the above, but when Labour are asked about these points, like on QT, their first response is to say we want to build an economy that helps businesses.

Obviously focus groups now telling them they were to anti business in the General Election.

 

Asked an easy question, but can't answer "yes it is wrong" because they are scared of how this will come across. Spineless sell out cunts. The quicker the Labour Party is fucked off the better. 

[Jairzinho]

What I have also noticed the last few days, which annoys me. Unbelievably it has now become the narrative that the Tax credits cut is a lot more than the increase in wage, thus attacking working poor, which is wrong. Also not correct that Rich Bosses are having their profits increased by tax payer subsidising low wages.

 

I would agree with all of the above, but when Labour are asked about these points, like on QT, their first response is to say we want to build an economy that helps businesses.

Obviously focus groups now telling them they were to anti business in the General Election.

 

Asked an easy question, but can't answer "yes it is wrong" because they are scared of how this will come across. Spineless sell out cunts. The quicker the Labour Party is fucked off the better. 

 

When does the leadership charade finish?

[Section_31]

Jairz, I get the feeling you're about to go politically postal. You remind me of me before I realised it was futile, and decided to instead spend my non-working time sat in the garden eating preserves with a spoon. 

[Scooby Dudek]

10th September Ballot closes

 

12th September winner announced

[Jairzinho]

Jairz, I get the feeling you're about to go politically postal. You remind me of me before I realised it was futile, and decided to instead spend my non-working time sat in the garden eating preserves with a spoon. 

 

I'm not entirely sure what politically postal would entail, but I've decided I'm going to spend my non working time on a beach in Spain.