Police investigating rascist gesture at Anfield

[109_ultra]

Laughable that the media and some (alleged) reds are believing this guy was making a monkey gesture.

 

Wake up to the propoganda before you fuckwits.

[dirk grout]

sine when has impersonating a monkey to 4,000 mancs been illegal?

 

I thought it was common knowledge that mancs are often referred to as monkeys. Some of the comments on here suggest otherwise.

[TheHowieLama]

fucking miserable bunch on that pic.

 

This deserves a bump and says alot...about alot.

[Strontium]

Singing about Koreans eating dogs must be racist.

 

 

Has anyone actually reported the Mancs for singing this? Definitely at the less serious end of the racism scale, but - let's face it - the bar for official sanction has been set pretty low.

 

Someone should report it to the cops for shits and giggles, at least.

 

Cheap as chimps is a quality tag!

 

 

Cheers.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

Arrest over 'gesture' at Liverpool-Manchester United tie

 

It was the first meeting of the teams since the racist incident between Patrice Evra and Luis Suarez

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A man has been arrested over an alleged gesture made at the FA Cup tie between Liverpool and Manchester United.

Merseyside Police said a 59-year-old from north Wales was arrested during the evening.

Earlier the force said the incident was being investigated by detectives from the specialist hate crime team, which investigates racist and other crimes.

Officers had reviewed TV footage of the match after a picture was posted on Twitter.

Saturday's game at Anfield ended with Liverpool winning 2-1.

'Genuine fans' On Saturday night a police spokeswoman said: "The man has been taken to a police station and will be questioned by officers.

"Merseyside Police would like to thank North Wales Police and Liverpool Football Club for their assistance with this matter.

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We will continue with our efforts to deal with the small number of individuals who commit offences at football matches”

Ch Supt Jon Ward

Earlier Ch Supt Jon Ward said: "We take all forms of offensive behaviour seriously, and we will always thoroughly investigate such claims.

"We cannot allow this type of behaviour to affect the enjoyment of genuine fans.

"We will continue with our efforts to deal with the small number of individuals who commit offences at football matches, in particular, with the continued use of football-banning orders."

Supporters warned Tensions were high at the match as it was the first time the teams had met since the racist incident between Manchester United's French defender Patrice Evra and Liverpool striker Luis Suarez during their league encounter last year.

The incident lead to Uruguayan Suarez being banned for eight games by the FA, who found him guilty of making racist slurs against Evra.

Before Saturday's match, the stadium announcer warned supporters that racist and homophobic behaviour would not be tolerated.

Police said 17 people were ejected from the ground during the game, adding that two people were arrested for "low level incidents".

But the force said the majority of fans were well-behaved.

Police have urged anyone with information about the alleged incident to contact them.

[rossy]

Its my Uncle Ivor. He was going to a fancy dress party after the match dressed as King Kong as was trying to explain this to the person sitting next to him.

Edited January 29, 2012 by rossy

[Beantown Red]

Laughable that the media and some (alleged) reds are believing this guy was making a monkey gesture.

 

Wake up to the propoganda before you fuckwits.

 

Yea, he was just having some whole body muscle spasm that made him look like he was doing a monkey gesture.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

North Wales hmmmm sounds like a blueshite plant to me.

[NLW2010]

TBH when I saw this on tv during the game, I thought he was just a mongo/stroke victim. Either way, anything like this is going to be highlighted and blown up.

Edited January 29, 2012 by NLW2010

[Melchett]

Fucking welsh racist, god I hate the welsh (with the exemption of certain forumites, Ian Rush, John Toshack etc.) at times.....

 

Grrrr.

[steviel73]

The guy was sitting in the lower centenary level with the penalty area annie road end. He was sitting a few rows in front of us, we were in our season tickets and he's not a regular well at least that seat isn't his normal seat.

 

He was shouting out quite a lot to the mancs calling them "pikey's" but nothing else really as far as I can recall, if he did do this gusture then nobody around us seen it and made any issue with it, which i thought would have happened if someone would have seen him doing it.

[zigackly]

This thread needs a theme tune.

 

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I think he was making a primitive mating gesture at some bird he'd just seen.

[Saintslfc13]

I thought the PC crowd had gone overboard here in the states but England have apparently taken it to a whole new level.

 

The bottom line is this: Is racism bad? of course. Should we encourage racism? Of course not. Should acts of violence directed at another individual do to race (or any reason other than self-defense for that matter) be prosecuted to the full extent of the law? Yes, and swiftly.

 

Should verbal insults or expressional gestures be a crime? No, not in a million years. Some people are cunts, that's just how it works on this planet and others still are racist cunts, as long as said cunts don't try to cause physical harm to the life and well-being of another human well then they're entitled to their bigoted (in terms of the racist cunts) or otherwise cuntish opinion.

 

The sheer hypocrisy of the english media is blatantly racist or perhaps I should say xenophobic. Here is Luis Suarez, uruguayan international and newcomer to England saying "negro" (that's pronounced neh-grow in case anyone didn't know)or "negrito", a word that means literally black or little black man (negrito also has other more affectionate connotations and both words can also be taken as dark rather than black in terms of coloration of the skin). Neither of those two words are ever taken offensively unless preceded by an offensive word in the context of "latin american" culture. He's spoke to Evra in a language Evra claims to be fluent in, yet Evra fails to acknowledge the differences between the spanish word for black and the english word negro, which in and of itself used to be a normal everyday word that wasn't considered offensive like the word n****r which means, at least in the american context, ignorant.

 

Now I'm not uruguayan but I am an American-Mexican (American comes first because I was born in America, the heritages are equal as far as I'm concerned) that is my father is Mexican and my mother is a white American. In Mexican spanish the word for "n****r" is a completely different word than "negro or negrito", it also starts with a "M" and ends with a "té". I would suspect it's the same in Uruguayan spanish, the word itself might be different but it certainly isn't "negro" or "negrito"

 

Yet the FA found him guilty so he's racist and because we support Suarez all of us Liverpool supporters are racist too.

 

Then we have the case of John Terry, england international and former captain, accused of calling Anton Ferdinand a "black cunt". Now whether Anton Ferdinand is a cunt or not is debatable but seeing as he's Rio's brother, I'd say that's probably a fair assessment because generally brothers have more similarities than they'd like and Rio can be described as a cunt. However by adding "black" before "cunt", John Terry made that a racial statement, it implies (whether intentional or through stupidity) that him being black has something to do with him being a cunt.

 

Yet Chelsea and their supporters have not been taken to task over this, certainly not to the extent that Liverpool and our own supporters have been. Nor has John Terry been ridiculed anywhere near the amount Suarez has. This is supposedly because it's all a "police investigation" and the media and FA wouldn't want to interfere with one of them.

 

With all that being said and pointed out it is quite clear that making an example was the FA and the media's primary goal and they chose to do that with "dirty foreigner" Suarez and Liverpool rather than the "noble Englishman" John Terry, you know that same guy that fucked his teammates wife and then was pictured holding his teammates kid.

 

The conclusion is simple: Evra, Ferguson, and the rest of that horrid club are all cunts who saw an opportunity to take a shot at Liverpool and did it, that's fair enough really, well played and it's not even their fault it worked. The real racists in this equation however are the FA and the English media, singling out the foreigner and those who back him whilst quietly refusing to comment on one of their own in the case of Terry.

 

If the FA actually gave a fuck about racism they would have banned Terry too, and the media would at least cover both stories equally and without bias. From what I know, I can't say they've done that.

 

As far as the man in the photo goes, if the club investigate properly, without influence from the FA or the english media (after all the english media is, according to broughton, why we fired Rafa and hired Hodgson), and decide it was indeed a racist gesture and to subsequently ban the man for life than I'm okay with that. A private club has all the right to ban someone from their establishment as far as I'm concerned. If upon investigation they find the gesture to be of the non-racist variety then that's fine too. The only thing I wouldn't be okay with is the club pandering to the same people who try to fuck us over every chance they get.

Edited January 29, 2012 by Saintslfc13

[Preston Red]

specialist hate crime detectives

 

is that really a unit ?

 

Best bullshit unit I ever heard was at British Aerospace.

 

They were there as troubleshooters for problems and were generally a pain in the arse apparently. However, they were the Fast Action Response Team. Abbreviate it and it'll give you the same laugh it did for me.

 

The other good one was the Continuous Improvement Team. A collection of shiny arses who had no comprehension of what goes into making a fighter jet. They thought it was like making cars on a production line. On the door to their office was the polished sign "C.I.T", to which somebody changed to Cunts Inside This.

 

Anyroad, back to the matters at hand. It looks like a monkey gesture to me so I say hand the cunt back to the blue and white shite.

Edited January 29, 2012 by Preston Red

[goatboy59]

 

(after all the english media is, according to broughton, why we fired Rafa and hired Hodgson),

 

 

Quality shoehorning!

[Rush 346]

The guy was sitting in the lower centenary level with the penalty area annie road end. He was sitting a few rows in front of us, we were in our season tickets and he's not a regular well at least that seat isn't his normal seat.

 

He was shouting out quite a lot to the mancs calling them "pikey's" but nothing else really as far as I can recall, if he did do this gusture then nobody around us seen it and made any issue with it, which i thought would have happened if someone would have seen him doing it.

 

FFS just got to this had no idea, this bloke was sitting in the next block to me and had the unfortunate experience of engaging with him after the final whistle whilst waiting to walk out - he was having a right rant towards the united fans calling them pikeys and singling out one supporter for their disability - he was shouting look at him etc repeatedly - absolutely disgraceful behaviour

[Saintslfc13]

Quality shoehorning!

 

My friend I'm about a 3rd of the way through a bottle of whiskey, so forgive if I'm wrong, but the intention wasn't to bring Rafa into it and I figured someone would have a problem with that part of it. I liked Rafa but I love Kenny, and I'd like to see Kenny take this club as far as is possible.

 

The point was that the Media called for Rafa the foreigner's head, whilst championing an inferior englishman in roy fucking hodgson to take the reins at Liverpool. I think we can all agree that Rafa was a far more qualified and better manager than Roy Hodgson, yet because he was foreign was treated like shit by the media. It fits in nicely with the current situation, because Suarez is in fact foreign and being shit upon, whilst the englishman Terry isn't really commented upon.

 

At the end of the day though if that one comment really takes away from the point of my post for you then oh well.

[chris71]

FFS just got to this had no idea, this bloke was sitting in the next block to me and had the unfortunate experience of engaging with him after the final whistle whilst waiting to walk out - he was having a right rant towards the united fans calling them pikeys and singling out one supporter for their disability - he was shouting look at him etc repeatedly - absolutely disgraceful behaviour

 

Bloody hell, talk about people in glass houses. Did that bloke check his mirror lately? Say what ever you want about the mancs but I couldn't see any of them going for that white cardie look anytime soon.

[shanks69]

specialist hate crime detectives

 

is that really a unit ?

 

why wouldn't it be,after all there are specialist crime units for guns,rape,murder,vice and robbery so why not hate crimes.

[goatboy59]

My friend I'm about a 3rd of the way through a bottle of whiskey, so forgive if I'm wrong, but the intention wasn't to bring Rafa into it and I figured someone would have a problem with that part of it. I liked Rafa but I love Kenny, and I'd like to see Kenny take this club as far as is possible.

 

 

At the end of the day though if that one comment really takes away from the point of my post for you then oh well.

 

Just a giggle mate, no offence.

 

If someone really believes "Broughton sacked Rafa because the papers told him to" I'd not feel inclined to argue against such a cracked notion anyhow.

 

A 1/3? Puff!

[Saintslfc13]

Just a giggle mate, no offence.

 

If someone really believes "Broughton sacked Rafa because the papers told him to" I'd not feel inclined to argue against such a cracked notion anyhow.

 

A 1/3? Puff!

 

lol fair enough and I'm still working on it don't worry. It's Jack Daniels though, not a fan of the sour mash myself but it'll have to do, I much prefer Jameson.

[Warwick Hunt]

It just looks to me like he was simulating a man carrying two very hot rolls of carpet

[Sut]

I thought it was common knowledge that mancs are often referred to as monkeys. Some of the comments on here suggest otherwise.

 

Are they? Might try it next time I go up there.

[zigackly]

Apparently they's arrested that fella now.

 

Man arrested over alleged racist gesture at Anfield - Crime - UK - The Independent

[goatboy59]

Apparently they's arrested that fella now.

 

Man arrested over alleged racist gesture at Anfield - Crime - UK - The Independent

 

Lordee lordee lordee ;)