Game Thread: v Birmingham (a)

[Pidge]

I think we have to treat this as a winnable game, they have a solid core, so it's vital that we look to get the three behind Torres right up with him. For me, it's all about their full backs, massive weakness for them.

[G Richards]

I will be disappointed if we don't win. We are better than Birmingham. I know we keep drawing against them, but we really need to be beating sides like this.

 

Reina

Johnson Kyrgiakos Agger Konchesky

Meireles Poulsen

Babel Gerrard Jovanovic

Torres

 

That's the team I'd play, and it's a toss up between Carra and the Greek. Carra looks like he is waning to me, and the Greek is our best aerial defender.

[Gary Mac Legend]

If Torres continues his improvement, I can see us without a doubt scoring, from him or Stevie. What's important is, unlike last year we defend consistently, not gifting weak silly goals that will cost us. Remember their equaliser, and the golden chance Bowyer missed? Our defending was fucking abysmal that day. 3 points tomorrow is absolutely vital, for the team, for our league position, for our fragile confidence.

 

Also, If they start with Zigic, surely the Greek's gotta play?

[Red Mist]

Try as I might, I cannot see us winning this one away from home. We have a wretched record against the brummie cunts and McLeish has continued to improve them. A draw at best.

[Son of L8]

Anyone else having trouble getting into the footy this year? Thinking about this game tomorrow, I just can't seem to get up any enthusiasm for it. Not bothered who starts or what tactics we play, haven't checked out their team news, hardly arsed if we win or lose, though I'm sure I'll end up pissed off if we lose it.

 

Proper apathy. I'm sure I'll put it on the telly and all, not like I'm going to not watch it, but it just doesn't seem that important.

[23_Carra_Gold]

It's a match. Not a game.

[lawrie]

apparently its a Poulsen/Lucas midfield - hope thats a mis-text

[The Guest]

No, I heard Lucas Poulsen midfield as well. And the rest reads how you expect Kuyt, Jovanovic, Torres, Gerrard etc. Konchesky to start also.

[Rex Banner]

Please not a Lucas Poulsen midfield, it's depressing to watch and will no doubt make for a very shit game. Why can't we get a manager who will have a go at teams I'm so sick of this shit football we play it's infuriating.

[TheDrowningMan]

A draw would be an excellent result from this fixture under the circumstances. I think Birmingham are somewhat more likely to emerge victorious, but should we win we're actually off to a very decent start this season - a fair way above Man City and Spurs in spite of an exponentially tougher start fixture-wise.

[The Guest]

We've got Torres and Gerrard both fit. A draw to Birmingham is never a good result never mind an excellent one. The results we got against average sides like this last season seems to make people think it is now acceptable.

[sir roger]

Anyone else having trouble getting into the footy this year? Thinking about this game tomorrow, I just can't seem to get up any enthusiasm for it. Not bothered who starts or what tactics we play, haven't checked out their team news, hardly arsed if we win or lose, though I'm sure I'll end up pissed off if we lose it.

 

Proper apathy. I'm sure I'll put it on the telly and all, not like I'm going to not watch it, but it just doesn't seem that important.

 

I feel exactly the same Son Of L8.

 

Don't get me wrong, I still want us to win & I go to every home game & watch as many of the aways as I can on tv but deep down I just don't care as much as I did even 2 or 3 years ago.

 

I assume it's the owner situation & the constant body blows leading from that situation has left me a bit numb.

 

ps - Drowning Man - it seems that it's not us LFC fans that are the only deluded ones.

 

Birmingham - 17 home games unbeated ( draws against all the big boys )

Liverpool - 1 win in last 10 away games.

 

William Hill odds ? Brum 10/3 Draw 21/10 Lpool 13/10

[Frankenhooker]

No, I heard Lucas Poulsen midfield as well. And the rest reads how you expect Kuyt, Jovanovic, Torres, Gerrard etc. Konchesky to start also.

 

Well then I wouldn't take much notice of the text, especially seeing as Kuyt is out for four weeks.

[sir roger]

We've got Torres and Gerrard both fit. A draw to Birmingham is never a good result never mind an excellent one. The results we got against average sides like this last season seems to make people think it is now acceptable.

 

I don't think we are saying that we wouldn't like to win or are not capable of winning. it's the outdated sense of ' We're LFC - we should batter them ' when these teams like Brum are out-spending us in the transfer market and the recent results scream the opposite.

 

Basically its not acceptance it's realism.

[The Guest]

Well then I wouldn't take much notice of the text, especially seeing as Kuyt is out for four weeks.

 

Touche

[rafarubbish]

3 points would set us up nice for united next weekend, were good enough to beat birmingham the one area that worries me is with kuyt out its going to leave johnson pretty exposed at right back so it will be interesting to see who roy puts there, personally id like to see young kelly at right back and johnson on the right of midfield

[The Guest]

I don't think we are saying that we wouldn't like to win or are not capable of winning. it's the outdated sense of ' We're LFC - we should batter them ' when these teams like Brum are out-spending us in the transfer market and the recent results scream the opposite.

 

Basically its not acceptance it's realism.

 

Yes I understand that. It's just that he said a draw would be an excellent result which it isn't.

[MLB]

If it's Lucas and Poulsen we'll lose.

[.PsEatMyShorts.]

We've got Torres and Gerrard both fit. A draw to Birmingham is never a good result never mind an excellent one. The results we got against average sides like this last season seems to make people think it is now acceptable.

 

Well said, if we are expecting to draw against Birmingham then we must expect to get beat at Old Toilet, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates and so on. Any team outside the top 4 in England, I don't see how anyone could be happy with anything less than a win. They might be a tough team to beat but they still have the odd yard dog in the team who can be targetted.

 

Last season has left a serious dent in our confidence right throughout the club, but that does not mean we should expect bad results against 2nd rate teams. "People just think because we are Liverpool we should batter them" Your damn right thats true. We ARE Liverpool Football Club, The biggest football team this country has produced, who the fuck are Birmingham?? You think Bill Shankly would have this half arse attitude some of you are showing? Fuck that. Let them worry about us, let them hope for fucking draw, we are going there to win. 3 points is a must

[rafarubbish]

reina

kelly carragher agger konchesky

 

poulsen meriles

johnson babel/jovenevic

gerrard

 

torres

[sir roger]

Yes I understand that. It's just that he said a draw would be an excellent result which it isn't.

 

Fair enough I agree with that.

 

It wasn't really your sensible post that I was responding to , it was the ridiculous sense of entitlement from some in every game-thread.

[MLB]

I really hope it's not Lucas and Poulsen. I would like to enjoy watching us for once. Why the fuck would you spend £10 million on a player and then not play him? It's absolutely inevitable that we will achieve fuck all with a Lucas-Poulsen central midfield.

[manchego]

Its Poulsen and Lucas Maxi wide right.

[sir roger]

I really hope it's not Lucas and Poulsen. I would like to enjoy watching us for once. Why the fuck would you spend £10 million on a player and then not play him? It's absolutely inevitable that we will achieve fuck all with a Lucas-Poulsen central midfield.

 

Unless Meireles is injured, I'll be really disappointed in Hodgson if he isn't starting ( Rumours at present only I know ).

 

I hope for Roy's sake that Stevie doesn't end up having a look of bafflement at team selection. He has previous for this at St.Andrews.

[sir roger]

Its Poulsen and Lucas Maxi wide right.

 

I can't see Birmingham coping with our pace.