Roy Hodgson is a fucking patsy.

[Kennys_spell]

I agree with this. I actually think it's quite refreshing that Hodgson seems to be just really focussed on getting the best out of the players he has etc. Maybe he knows that the conditions he's working under aren't ideal but still feels that he has the players available to produce good football and results.

 

 

No one actually knows what Hodgson is doing in terms of targets in, and to me it seems that people are making all sorts of assumptions based on nothing but a hope that he gets the right players in - others are pointing at suggested targets like Scharmer and Beattie, players who would have been laughed at during any previous managers reign but appear to be somehow acceptable if "Roy" is chasing them.

 

What we do know is that a deal was done for Benayoun - despite the management of the club saying that no players would be sold until a new manager had his say - and that a deal is being conducted for Insua that the manager has admitted he has no idea of what it involves and what the status of this deal is.

 

I have to say that I'm far more confident in us for next season as Gerrard and Torres both appear to be giving us at least another year, on the other hand I can't help thinking that it's simply a 'stay of execution' for the team. Unless we get knew owners by December then it all seems a little silly to me that we (the club) would part with more than £8 Mill to not change much at all.

[Kennys_spell]

It used to be about football.

 

Didn't they change those rules when they got rid of a manager for non-football reasons?

[Kennys_spell]

It's seemingly the same with 9/10 players at this club, including Torres, Masch and Gerrard who owe Roy Hodgson some sort of indication of where there heart lies.

 

Why do they "owe" Hodgson anything?

[Kennys_spell]

For a manager that hasn't been on the bench, bought a player or sold a player yet.

Pretty damn obvious.

 

So is this you accepting that someone else at the club is carrying out the transfer deals (Bennayoun) over the head of Hodgson?

[Hermes]

Didn't they change those rules when they got rid of a manager for non-football reasons?

 

Boring, defensive and tactically clueless I've heard before. But it's the first time I've heard his style of play described as "non-football".

 

I suppose it was the opposite of total football.

[goatboy59]

Don't be a tit.

 

Beginning of May - Rafa tells Benayoun he has no future here

 

Beginning of June - we tell Rafa the same

 

Late June - Hodgson gets the job

 

Within that 6-7 weeks Yossi has clearly made his mind up. Probably well before that/

[Kennys_spell]

 

I hate Purslow too but I think his input is exaggerated to the max by many people.

 

and his effect is seemingly ignore by a lot more people.

 

I can't believe that you actually believe what you typed to be the truth about Purslow - there are so many examples of his lies and forked tongue.

[Mathewbet1]

Roy hodgson's a cheese and onion pasty.

[Kennys_spell]

Could he have been for arguments sake, lying? Throwing people off the scent?

 

He wasn't born yesterday.

 

Or he could have been telling the truth - your version of events seems far too much like "Politics" for a Liverpool manager doesn't it?

[Horus]

 

 

 

[Kennys_spell]

Boring, defensive and tactically clueless I've heard before. But it's the first time I've heard his style of play described as "non-football".

 

I suppose it was the opposite of total football.

 

You're joking right - otherwise you're making yourself look like a bit of a clown.

 

Now I know you'll avoid the relevant parts of my post and try to latch on to some other sillyness but that really is a bit of a stupid post. The "Boring, defensive and tactially clueless" manager you talk about had more of his squad at the World Cup than any other manager in England.

 

Real Madrid, AC Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea and Man Utd ALL could stand testament against the claim of him being tactially clueless don't you think?

[Kennys_spell]

Don't be a tit.

 

Beginning of May - Rafa tells Benayoun he has no future here

 

Beginning of June - we tell Rafa the same

 

Late June - Hodgson gets the job

 

Within that 6-7 weeks Yossi has clearly made his mind up. Probably well before that/

 

Now something about this has confused me - when Benitez got here and Cisse completed his more, People were more than willing to suggest that it was a Benitez decision - Now Hodgeson is here and Bennayoun has been moved on People and how saying this is also a Benitez decision.

 

There seems to be a disconnect there.

[Guest ShoePiss]

Now something about this has confused me - when Benitez got here and Cisse completed his more, People were more than willing to suggest that it was a Benitez decision - Now Hodgeson is here and Bennayoun has been moved on People and how saying this is also a Benitez decision.

 

There seems to be a disconnect there.

 

I've always been under the impression the deal was done before Benitez arrived. I do remember some saying that he was interested in him while at Valencia but as far as I'm aware he had no say in it at all as it was already a done deal.

[Dave D]

Yeah but you said you would prefer Scharner to Aquilani & Lucas, so, you know nothing.

 

A mixture of footballing ability, amount of games played and financial mathematics all point to scharner being a better signing compared to those two. If you cant see that Im thinking you havent taken your Rafa posters down

[goatboy59]

Desperate.

[Kennys_spell]

Desperate.

 

Truth.

[Section_31]

I'm genuinely interested to see how he'll do. If we don't lose Torres and Gerrard this will be the first time in England that Hodgeson has had world class players to deploy. He's old school, he's an English manager who understands the English league and I'm eager to see how that will manifest itself in our play. Our last two managers have been much vaunted for their tactical nouse and technical thinking, and while it's often worked in Europe it's come unstuck in England because - IMO - english footy is a pretty simple beast. You need width, speed and aggression and you're 75% of the way home.

 

I've always said that it's no coincidence that the only manager to come close to breaking Ferguson's stranglehold here was the one - Maureen - who built the most 'English-style' club side in the league. Pace, agreession, height and strength up front.

 

Give the man a chance.

Edited July 17, 2010 by Section_31

[Monster Masch]

If we don't lose Torres and Gerrard this will be the first time Hodgeson has had world class players to deploy

 

I don't know, did he not have Ronaldo at Inter?

[Section_31]

I don't know, did he not have Ronaldo at Inter?

 

I meant in England mate. He did okay at Blackburn early on with relatively limited players.

[Il Fenomeno]

Hodgson had Zanetti at Inter aswell.

 

A mixture of footballing ability, amount of games played and financial mathematics all point to scharner being a better signing compared to those two. If you cant see that Im thinking you havent taken your Rafa posters down

 

Fuck me, you would really prefer Scharner to Lucas & Aquilani?

 

He's not the best midfielder at Wigan, and you think he's better than Lucas & Aquilani.

 

That's laughable.

[castle_red]

Go on then, explain to me how that bit in bold happens? And once again, if you call someone a patsy, you're saying they're being set up for a big fall and they've no clue it's coming.

 

It's a suspicion based on a couple of not unreasonable assumptions:

 

1) The Americans plan to continue making unpopular moves until someone finally stumps up their asking price - e.g. selling big stars over the manager's head, only to pocket all or most of the proceeds, giving the manager small change if anything to replace them with;

 

2) Should they go ahead and sell, say, Torres, Gerrard and Mascherano, this transfer window, and then provide the new manager with only enough funds to buy lower-class replacements - let's say Doyle, Murphy and Scharner - and the team goes on to perform poorly in 2010/11, then it's a fair bet they will be in line for some stick. If that new manager is Dalglish, Lippi, Hiddink or Capello, it's 100% certain that the owners will be blamed, rather than the coach. If, however, the new coach is a lesser light - and it is only with the greatest of respect that I suggest Roy may fit that bill, compared to the other names - it may be possible for the owners, along with the board, to create a feeling (in the ways that we know they do) in the media and therefore the public (including the, let's say, 85% of Liverpool supporters who are not knowledgeable on the club's predicament) that Liverpool's failure to improve on last season's efforts is the fault of the new manager.

 

Regardless of whether the above is the case or not (and I am only suggesting it might be), I unequivocally want Roy Hodgson to succeed this season, and to enjoy a trophy-laden tenure under new ownership.

[castle_red]

I could be wrong but I think criticism in this thread is aimed at the interference above Roy's head rather than the manager himself.

 

No, you're spot on

[Sangria]

Well done, you held back for all of sixteen days.

 

Classic had to spread it but that is a post of pure beauty.

[piscinin]

Patsy or picking his fights? I can see the case for both. Time will tell. I'm getting increasingly worried its the latter.

[castle_red]

You're joking right - otherwise you're making yourself look like a bit of a clown.

 

Now I know you'll avoid the relevant parts of my post and try to latch on to some other sillyness but that really is a bit of a stupid post. The "Boring, defensive and tactially clueless" manager you talk about had more of his squad at the World Cup than any other manager in England.

 

Real Madrid, AC Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea and Man Utd ALL could stand testament against the claim of him being tactially clueless don't you think?

 

How can you not think what he wrote was a joke?!