Selling Kuyt

[Stu Monty]

Yes, good call and bring in the super hardworking and honest as the day is long Brian McBride , he might be mainly shit but that lad will stick his head on the end of a boot full of studs and get up for more.

 

Forget Torres and his skills, hard grafting and putting in the miles is what appeals to the more cultured lfc superfan these days:whistle:

 

You do realise that Kuyt doesn't just run about a bit, don't you? It's not like there's a queue of players who can all do what he does because it's just a bit of running. He has a physical capacity virtually unmatched in the game, so it's not just a bit of hard work.

 

He might not be Torres for ability with the ball but he's no pub player. The variety and range of his goals and assists whilst he's been here are a testament to that.

[Joe Sal]

kuyt is a lot better than brian mcbride, though. is a proven goalscorer in european football, and plays for one of the biggest clubs in the game and is a regualr for one of the best international teams around.

 

maybe the likes of benitez and van basten just don't know what they're doing.

[Stu Monty]

I don't think he is a regular for The Netherlands actually. And Van Basten has taken Mario Melchiot with him to the tournament so I wouldn't be using him as your star witness for the defense.

[Unrighteous]

I don't think he is a regular for The Netherlands actually. And Van Basten has taken Mario Melchiot with him to the tournament so I wouldn't be using him as your star witness for the defense.

 

When is Kuyt left out of the Dutch squad? I seem to recall him playing in the last major tournament for them as well.

[Joe Sal]

lets ignore the plethora of quality players he's also taken with him.

 

dirk has been a regular for the dutch for years, and was a mainstay of the side beferoe his recent blip.

[Stu Monty]

I thought he was struggling to get into the first eleven recently?

[Dirk]

I don't think he is a regular for The Netherlands actually. And Van Basten has taken Mario Melchiot with him to the tournament so I wouldn't be using him as your star witness for the defense.

 

Holland lack quality defenders, though. In attacking positions such as wingers and strikers they have an abundance of talent Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, Huntelaar, Babel, Robben, Sneijder.

[Dirk]

I thought he was struggling to get into the first eleven recently?

 

I think he was last season.

[Monkeywool]

You do realise that Kuyt doesn't just run about a bit, don't you? It's not like there's a queue of players who can all do what he does because it's just a bit of running. He has a physical capacity virtually unmatched in the game, so it's not just a bit of hard work.

 

He might not be Torres for ability with the ball but he's no pub player. The variety and range of his goals and assists whilst he's been here are a testament to that.

 

No Stu, Kuyt is just the Dutch Haile Gabrisalassi.

 

FACT!

[KevieG]

You do realise that Kuyt doesn't just run about a bit, don't you? It's not like there's a queue of players who can all do what he does because it's just a bit of running. He has a physical capacity virtually unmatched in the game, so it's not just a bit of hard work.

 

He might not be Torres for ability with the ball but he's no pub player. The variety and range of his goals and assists whilst he's been here are a testament to that.

 

I think he is a good enough player with those qualities you mentioned, but i think he is all wrong for that position. Sissoko had even greater physical capabilities and he was sold to improve the team as a better option became available.

[KevieG]

kuyt is a lot better than brian mcbride, though. is a proven goalscorer in european football, and plays for one of the biggest clubs in the game and is a regualr for one of the best international teams around.

 

maybe the likes of benitez and van basten just don't know what they're doing.

 

for fucks sake.

[Joe Sal]

for fucks sake.

 

yes you are a clueless bellend.

[Unrighteous]

I think he is a good enough player with those qualities you mentioned, but i think he is all wrong for that position. Sissoko had even greater physical capabilities and he was sold to improve the team as a better option became available.

 

Kuyt and Sissoko have a similar engine but Kuyt has to be one of the strongest players in our squad. His overall physique is quite shockingly large for a footballer. He's also quite a jumper.

 

He has to eat like 7,000 calories a day to keep that amount of muscle mass with the amount of running he does...

 

and quite frankly, his performances since he started playing in that position shows that you are totally incorrect.

[KevieG]

When is Kuyt left out of the Dutch squad? I seem to recall him playing in the last major tournament for them as well.

 

Yes, he did, in place of Van Nistleroy.

[Hazel Motes]

Kuyt and Sissoko have a similar engine but Kuyt has to be one of the strongest players in our squad. His overall physique is quite shockingly large for a footballer. He's also quite a jumper.

 

He has to eat like 7,000 calories a day to keep that amount of muscle mass with the amount of running he does...

 

and quite frankly, his performances since he started playing in that position shows that you are totally incorrect.

 

"In every real man a [Kuyt] is hidden that wants to play."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[Stu Monty]

I think he is a good enough player with those qualities you mentioned, but i think he is all wrong for that position. Sissoko had even greater physical capabilities and he was sold to improve the team as a better option became available.

 

I think he's a very good option for that position and I think he proved that in the last two or three months of the season. I also think that the ability, attitude and determination he has make him great value at £10m. I'd now be looking at a player who can go past people, and maybe also has a little more of the out of the blue element to him, to compete with Kuyt and Babel for those two wider positions. Kuyt is a player most managers would dream of having as he'll still work his bollocks off if he gets pushed out of the side.

 

At worst he'd be a great squad player, selling him would be lunacy in my eyes.

[KevieG]

I think he's a very good option for that position and I think he proved that in the last two or three months of the season. I also think that the ability, attitude and determination he has make him great value at £10m. I'd now be looking at a player who can go past people, and maybe also has a little more of the out of the blue element to him, to compete with Kuyt and Babel for those two wider positions. Kuyt is a player most managers would dream of having as he'll still work his bollocks off if he gets pushed out of the side.

 

At worst he'd be a great squad player, selling him would be lunacy in my eyes.

 

See, that's a good post, well reasoned and i can take that on board.

I disagree with it given our finanical circumstances and the needs of the first team(which was what the thread was about), but I take your point about his good qualities which I have acknowledged a few times.

[Dirk]

I think he's a very good option for that position and I think he proved that in the last two or three months of the season. I also think that the ability, attitude and determination he has make him great value at £10m. I'd now be looking at a player who can go past people, and maybe also has a little more of the out of the blue element to him, to compete with Kuyt and Babel for those two wider positions. Kuyt is a player most managers would dream of having as he'll still work his bollocks off if he gets pushed out of the side.

 

At worst he'd be a great squad player, selling him would be lunacy in my eyes.

 

That pretty much sums up how I feel about Dirk.

[Joe Sal]

you know quite well he won't be sold and it was a thread aimed soley at getting a reaction.

 

you can't kid a kidda.

[RedinSweden]

If that 12m could go towards Villa, its a no brainer.

 

12m to Villa? You want to buy John Carew?

[philyhamann]

12m to Villa? You want to buy John Carew?

 

If we buy Villa for 12m, we can take Barry and Young then sell the rest to cover the 12m.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

if you don't like dirk you have no soul.

 

i love the odd fanny merchant as much as the next man, but players like dirka are the real inspiration to genuine fans of the game.

 

Why are you so keen on him them?

 

And his name is Dirk, not Dirka you fucking inbred

[philyhamann]

[Paul]

some people: Philly, Paul, etc

 

Have not, and will not forgive Kuyt for playing poorly after his father died.

 

1. That's not my opinion - why are you stating that it is?

2. I've never mentioned his father.

3. I've never seen Dirk as one of our top players at any stage of his time with us.

4. I agree with much of what Stu wrote - which is why I said I wouldn't sell him for less than £10m.

 

What happens if Impact Signing (I'm assuming he's a forward) gets seriously injured and you've got rid of Kuyt, Voronin, Crouch and Pennant?

 

The same thing as will happen if Gerrard or Torres gets injured, I suppose - we'll have to cope. However, to have the possibility of having a player of that quality in the team is well worth any risk like that. I can't believe there's any argument against the fact that the team needs more top class atacking players. If money is tight, sacrifices will have to made in order to get them. Sacrificing Dirk - at the price I mentioned - is one I'd be prepared to make (and also one that makes far more sense to me than sacrificing Xabi to buy Barry).

[Glen C]

Or one of any of another hundred players that have missed a decent chance possibly? Heskey has never scored the volume of goals that Kuyt has and never will.

 

We can only compare their record in the premiership because heskey has never played in the dutch league. In the premiership playing for us heskey scored over 20 goals in one season. Now i'm not saying that kuyt isn't better than heskey but the fact is heskey has scored more goals and ive seen heskey TERRORISE and DESTROY a team on his day....we've never seen that from kuyt.