Monkeywool

You honestly think if Liverpool moved out of the Anfield area you wouldn't get a bunch of fallout? I think a lot of the support would be up in arms if we did.

From all the reports I read, the Main stand will be ready in 2016 with the ARE being ready as early as 2018. 5 years after 2013 (which, based on estimates of cost and the feet dragging of the council may or may not actually have been met if we decided to go ahead with it.) 60,000 isn't too bad at all, it's just the right sort of size for us right now. 10 years down the line if we continue to win, then we may require an extra 15-20k. Which, if we plan for them now we can continue to buy houses and the land around the Kop and Centenary stands with a view to adding that extra capacity. In terms of a new stadium, the fans would be further away from the pitch, the location (if put somewhere other than Anfield) would turn a lot of fans away from the club, supporters do not like it when a club moves away from its home. Going from Anfield to the docklands would just alienate a whole swathe of fans and potentially cost us in revenue and image. It was always going to be the most happy solution for most people involved. We get to stay at Anfield, where we've been for over a century and have the extra capacity and mod cons to support the team financially. Anfield should also have an increase in grading now, so maybe we'll be in contention for European finals - which would provide income also.

So, rather than pay for a redevelopment of where we've been for the past 122 years and bring that stadium up to par with what the rest of the contenders have, you'd rather us up and move to the docklands area, paying probably 3/4 times more than we will for this and have one of those soulless megadomes that are now created where you have to sit about 3 miles away from the pitch? 60k is about right just now for us. In a few years time, we can look again at the Kop and Centenary stands, buy the houses around there and repeat to make a 75-80k stadium if needed. We're just doing now what the mancs did years ago. They proved you don't need a spanking new stadium when you could expand your current one to be better.

Getting them anyway as part of this one.

Like fuck these are real! It's sunny and the trees are green and not full of "kopites fuck off" carvings on them.

Sky signed a contract through to 2019 I believe. They are paying WWE a lot more for it too, on the downside for us, all PPVs will now be PPV and we won't get the random ones on SS3. I'll be getting the network when it's released at the end of the year anyway. So doesn't bother me much.

Dirtsheets rarely know what the hell they are talking about. When they do they tend to just muddy the waters and make things sound worse than they are.

I can't see Punk at Chicago. I'd imagine he's done until at least Summerslam. Our London Raw tickets turned up in the post yesterday, nice.

The thing I love about this is Suarez's attitude to the whole thing. That man is just a winner. 2-2 - going to get a point, a bunch of guys would stand for that. Not Luis, goes right to the ball, picks it up and says fuck sake lads, get back. We haven't won yet. It's great to have strong personalities and, most importantly, a number of match winners and leaders on the pitch. We've been relying on Gerrard for far too long to pick us up and steer the team in the right direction.

Not scored for 5 minutes, ffs, sort it out!

Why did we need another attacker again?

Every club signs duff players sometimes. Why do we always focus on this kind of argument? We are lucky in some respects as the teams around us battling for that 4th spot didn't really improve their squad either. Spurs signed no one of note, Everton didn't, the Mancs signed a player that isn't really going to help them not concede goals. Hell, even Arsenal (who I still think we have a chance of catching for 3rd, despite today) didn't sign anyone who wasn't injured.

I feel that spurs pulled out of the running because they saw how annoying the transfer would be and figured they left it too late. Our guys tried to push it through and ultimately failed. It's just how it goes sometimes.

Losing out on the occasional signing isn't an indication of bad business either. Not always. Salah's agent actually said it took too long to agree terms with Basel, not that we tried to change it and Chelsea came in and just paid the whole lot straight away no questions asked. If we did that, give clubs whatever they wanted, no questions asked, the same people here lamenting our hesitancy would be doing the same and saying we are being pushovers.

You are not reading that, not everything is black and white. It isn't always a case of 100% this way or that way, most of the time it is a whole bunch of grey. Attributing it all down to Liverpool/Ayre/FSG and completely discounting the selling club is completely wrong, as is attributing it all to the selling club and not us. Transfers are tricky at times, some clubs just do not want to sell, some clubs want to sell to the highest bidder/whoever gives them the better terms, some players *shock* don't want to live in Liverpool and prefer London as a destination. It's just how it goes. For every Mkhitaryan/Konoplyanka/Dempsey there is a Coutinho/Suarez/Sakho. You can't argue that we have not signed some good players in the past few years. By your logic they were either signed as a complete fluke or the other club must have been thinking they were dealing with other people.

It's all about the feel good factor today. We are going to a place in poor form after having a good week on the pitch and disappointing one off it. If the players are not up for this, then they should be - they should have the mentality that says "fuck it, we'll prove people wrong, if they think we are not good enough without signings, we'll show 'em". February will actually show our true character as a collective unit. We come through it well, then I've got high hopes for the future. We fall apart then it's concerning.

So LFC says one thing - liars. Dnipro says another - 100% telling the truth? Yeah, not buying it. The truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't like how this whole forum has become one giant melting pot of knee jerk craziness and assumes that everything goes wrong is a giant fuck up on our side. It's disappointing we got no signings, it's annoying that we lost another player to Chelsea again - but if we are trying to crack the CL again this will happen. We are going for CL calibre players and so are the other guys around us. They just so happen to be in a position where they can just give the club in question exactly what they want without a second thought. We aren't. We have to be prudent and not let selling clubs take the piss.

Sickening to lose 3 points thanks to an incompetent lino who bottled it or corrupt or whatever he did. Still doesn't excuse we let a two goal lead drop though. That wasn't the referee or anyone's fault other than the 11 men on the pitch who let Everton overrun them for 20 minutes.

Out of his depth because of some press conferences that the media have run away with barely a story? Not even before he has even magaged us in a friendly. Christ on a bike.

At least we can enter the mascot grand national now. If he's anything like the rocket's bear then he empty a whole can on whoop ass on evra when he shows his face at anfield. Even then they'll probably blame suarez.

I was into MMOs in a big way, was on WoW for ever, gave that up a few years ago, tried SWTOR and it wasn't that good in honesty. Think the genre is stale for me now.

How has this become an issue at all? Guy thinks about signing for us because he wants to play for our manager, we offer the same money as a contract he already agreed, with our manager. He goes elsewhere for more money. How, because we are now being financially prudent (something EVERYONE has been crying for since we offered silly wages for absolute fucking shit in the past) is that now a bad bad bad thing? Surely, if we said, OK, let us offer you 50% more than you were going to play for at Swansea we would have 1001 posts saying "Well, its all well and good, but its yet another example of this club not standing its ground and people take the piss out of us financially." You can't have it both ways, you can't hold your principles and stand your ground financially AND pay a player a 50% markup on what he already agreed previously.

Youth wins. Won the title 2 years in a row now with Valencia. Won the first with 97 points, only managed to win that on head to head with Barca after beating them home and away. Second season coasted the league with Hendo on loan on my right wing supplying all sorts of assists for the Spanish Robbie Fowler who I brought up from my youth side. Won the title with 4 games left and then played the u19 side for the rest of the season.

Jesus fucking H, some people on this site really need to check what shit they are smoking. The last 2 pages on this thread are shameful from some folks.

It's a good introduction to Brendan to being the manager of a European campaign. Hopefully we go all the way. The Uefa cup is not as special as it once was, but hey, it's another European campaign. It isn't the CL and it's upsetting that we allowed it to get to the point that even fucking Chelsea get to win that. We need to have this one final fling with the Uefa though and get back to the CL next year by hook or by crook.