Welcome to Liverpool, Alexis Mac Allister

[joe_fishfish]

Tsimikas is fine for Europa League games and a bit of rotation for Robbo, but he’s a bit shit at the old defending thing.

 

He’d look a lot better if he just had to sprint up and down for 90 minutes and stick crosses into the box, but that’s not exactly what our left back does any more.

[joe_fishfish]

Anyway yeah, Mac Allister is the one most affected by us buying Gravenberch and Endo instead of a top quality defensive midfielder. 

[Reckoner]

1 hour ago, etho said:

Mad opinion, tsimikas is a very decent full back

Only last game counts on here.

[aws]

I think Tsimikas is a good full back but just playing now and again doesn’t do him any favours. 

[stringvest]

2 hours ago, joe_fishfish said:

Tsimikas is fine for Europa League games and a bit of rotation for Robbo, but he’s a bit shit at the old defending thing.

 

He’d look a lot better if he just had to sprint up and down for 90 minutes and stick crosses into the box, but that’s not exactly what our left back does any more.

 

Robbo is a bit shit at the old defending, and he has fewer kicking feet.  Tsimikas was pretty good yesterday.

[stringvest]

5 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Thiago is a waste of time. I'm still surprised at Tsmikas getting a new contract he's shockingly shit. 

 

fucking hell.  

[TheHowieLama]

Tsimikas was very good in the old 433. He is not really cut out to play in the hybrid system we are trying now.

[Kevin D]

It’s not working.

[Scott_M]

13 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

It’s not working.

 

In general, I think Mac Allister is a more than adequate #6 when we have lots of the ball. He just didn’t play well yesterday, he wasn’t the only one, it happens. 

Having to thread the ball through the eye of a needle in congested areas every time he got it due to our lack of width didn’t help. 

[3 Stacks]

40 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

It’s not working.

We're 3rd and have decent underlying numbers. For a player that is doing a job and a service to the team because there was a fuck up in the summer in regards to not buying an adequate 6, it is definitely working about as well as it could.

[3 Stacks]

I've said this a lot, but the talk around Mac Allister is some of the dumbest in a long time. It's like when Milner would play fullback and he would generally play fine, except Milner rarely got the stick Mac is getting. Like, how is this in any way his fault?

 

And the Endo talk is akin to asking why Minamino wasn't playing more. It's no big secret; they are not high level players. You don't start that player in the league regularly if your goal is to win the title.

[johnsusername]

 

 

[sir roger]

Ever been gaslit, Endo ?

[halewood pete]

Macallister banned for Sunday,I would trust Endo to start ,play Macallister Thursday though,and keep Gomez full back for both games

[BeefStroganoff]

Annoying. I wouldn't mind but its not like Mac Allister has demonstrated he's the better player in that position. he's probably been worse than anytime Endo has played there.

[Vincent Vega]

This is interesting, although most of us agree we haven’t seen the best of him and we would like to see him in the positions he took up at Brighton, he is in fact measuring up pretty well in comparison with his contemporaries.

 

[gkmacca]

On 06/10/2023 at 16:29, joe_fishfish said:

Anyway yeah, Mac Allister is the one most affected by us buying Gravenberch and Endo instead of a top quality defensive midfielder. 

 

He can't even plug the gap in his surname.. I feel very sorry for him and can't wait for when he finally gets the chance to play in his proper position.

[El Rojo]

The worry around this stuff is that Klopp no longer wants to play with a designated 6, working instead with three more rounded midfielders. It's certainly not doing Mac Allister any favours. 

 

Endo's been fine, from what I've seen. I think we'd have played better at Luton with him screening the defence and Mac or Gravenberch coming on in the second half. 

 

Surely he should at least be starting in games like that?

[3 Stacks]

1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said:

This is interesting, although most of us agree we haven’t seen the best of him and we would like to see him in the positions he took up at Brighton, he is in fact measuring up pretty well in comparison with his contemporaries.

 

I have said this, his stats are good. And it feels like the majority of fans are only focusing on the negatives of a player who is in reality doing an admirable job in a position he is being forced to play because of mistakes by the club. 

 

Just a severe lack of perspective and understanding being shown, by fans who are meant to be knowledgeable and supportive, in general. 

[Kevin D]

I’m not really seeing it, yet.

[Planet Origi]

Miles off the pace

[bossy]

I think he’s pretty good. Playing in an unglamorous position doing the simple things that don’t make you excited. Needs to cut out the sloppy passing though, as he’s shown he can do better,  

[lebron]

11 minutes ago, bossy said:

I think he’s pretty good. Playing in an unglamorous position doing the simple things that don’t make you excited. Needs to cut out the sloppy passing though, as he’s shown he can do better,  

 

I’d rather have my midfielders attempting to be brave on the ball and trying to thread the needle (and missing those passes from time to time = sloppy passing), than having them just playing it safe, sideways and backways all the time. We have the pace at the back to cope with those instances of sloppy passing, as well as the best 1v1 keeper ever. Over the course of 90 minutes (and a season), we gain much more from that approach. Problem is us supporters will groan and moan at those misplaced passes, and point out what horrendous mistakes they are, when we’ve probably gained 4 more chances at the other end due to this way of playing. With taking greater risks comes more chances both ways.

 

Sorry, a real pet peeve of mine, not aimed at you personally.

Edit: Probably shouldn’t even have quoted you, as you are one of the few giving him praise!

[Barrington Womble]

He's not defensively the best. But he tries to move the ball forward and quickly, which is crucial in his role. He made a few sloppy passes tonight, unforced and easy passes. He seems that kind of player. But overall I quite enjoyed his non-set piece play. 

[Carvalho Diablo]

Like him. Played well tonight and it seems like he's growing into that position.

 

Still prefer him higher up the field though.