Mv Estonia Sea ferry disaster

[Bjornebye]

6 hours ago, chrisbonnie said:

Just got around to watching this documentary on the discovery plus ➕ app on sky digital. 

 

Holy shit, those swedes are a dodgy bunch aren't they........... 

 

Not sure whether I should ruin it or not. But there seems plenty of evidence to suggest something untoward happened to that ship. 

 

The Swedish government in the first few days they'll do everything in their power to salvage the vessel and bring up the bodies. 

 

Then within weeks blatantly refuse to do this claiming it was too deep. Its only 70 metres below the surface. 

 

They've never bothered to actually investigate the ship for damage to see what caused the sinking. 

 

They sent a British salvage company down to see if it was possible to bring they bodies or ship up, when told it was easy enough to refused. Even though the British drivers got onto the ship and counted over 170 bodies they themselves could have resurfaced there and then. But they weren't allowed. 

 

The Swedish government, along with thread Estonian, Finnish and a free other baltic started then signed an agreement to declare the sight of the wreckage a grave site, which then made it illegal to dive there. 

 

The Swedish government then dropped 100,000 tonnes of rocks onto the wreckage from a barge, in an attempt to encase the wreckage. 

 

The swedes then had an "independent enquiry" into the disaster and the head of the tribunal openly admitted he burned the evidence after drafting up his findings as he thought there was no point in keeping any of the evidence...... Wtf!!! 

 

For any of the enquiries they never took statements from shut of the survivors. So when they published their findings, none of the timeliness fit with what the survivors went through. 

 

After 20 years the swedes admitted the Swedish military had smuggled Russian military equipment through Estonia and brought it to Sweden via the ferry itself. They admitted to doing it on two sailings a week and two weeks before the sinking, but wouldn't confirm whether they did on the night of the disaster. 

 

The list goes on and on. I'm even leaving out the most obvious and clear part of the cover up. But it's a great documentary and certainly one that should be watched. 

 

 

Dodgy as fuck that mate. It's not even dodgy it's just blatant. I was only thinking about this disaster yesterday when a Russian fishing vessel sunk in the Barents sea. 2 fished out but 17 dead. 7am, in that sea, in the pitch-black, in the middle of winter? Fuck that. They reckon that much ice was on the deck it weighted it down. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55467244

 

 

 

 

[chrisbonnie]

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Dodgy as fuck that mate. It's not even dodgy it's just blatant. I was only thinking about this disaster yesterday when a Russian fishing vessel sunk in the Barents sea. 2 fished out but 17 dead. 7am, in that sea, in the pitch-black, in the middle of winter? Fuck that. They reckon that much ice was on the deck it weighted it down. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55467244

 

 

 

 

The worst thing is, and I'm kind of giving it away now. 

 

The production team sent down a little robot to look at the wreck. But had to do so by sailing there in a German boat as the Germans never signed the funny treaty that Finland and Sweden did. The robot sub found a huge hole in the hull, about 4 metres tall by 1.5 metres wide, at the water level of the ship. 

 

They then asked experts what could cause this, some marine accident expert fein trondheim did calculations and a mock up of what caused it and came to the conclusion it would have to be an object weighing about 1000 tonnes traveling at a certain speed. 

 

Then oddly enough, one of the survivors who reckons he was first up on deck after a loud bang was heard on the boat at 12am said when he looked down indy the water he thought he saw a submarine in the water. But his testimony was never asked for. 

 

When hearing the survivors story he did a simple Google search and found 3 different subs used by the Russians and the swedes that weighed around 1000 tonnes. 

 

The director of the documentary brought his findings to the original investigator assigned by the Swedish government and showed him the pictures of the hull damage and the survivors story, to say your man was surprised would be an understatement. 

 

But low and behold, the Swedish government came out the night the documentary aired to say they wouldn't be investigating the matter any further. 

 

Dodgy bastards 

[Bjornebye]

Very odd. Here is the hole which would suggest a collision. Maybe its a Swedish sub and they dont want the embarrassment/law-suits or a Russian sub who basically said blame us and we will kick your cunts in

 

 

Also, easy to blame a faulty door only a few years after the Thownsend Thornsen disaster.