Mv Estonia Sea ferry disaster

[General Dryness]

Yeah, The Titanic was fairly small fry in the scheme of things.

 

Look up the Wilhelm Gustloff. Horrendous.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, General Dryness said:

Yeah, The Titanic was fairly small fry in the scheme of things.

 

Look up the Wilhelm Gustloff. Horrendous.

Yeah awful that. Russians killed a load of refugees didn't they? Nearly 10'000 in the drink. 

[Mook]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Yeah awful that. Russians killed a load of refugees didn't they? Nearly 10'000 in the drink. 

Loads of cunts in Britain would be cheering like fuck at that.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Mook said:

Loads of cunts in Britain would be cheering like fuck at that.

Absolutely. Cunts. 

[suzy]

13 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

I was 8 I think. I was just pissed off they cancelled everything I wanted to watch!

That’s mental! I said you were 7 because I saw the ‘7 years earlier’ and mention of kids programmes and I really thought you’d said you were 7!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

years earlier “ 

[dockers_strike]

15 hours ago, suzy said:

I remember that very well. My uncle used to work on it. He wasn’t working that day though. Someone locally (they live Dover) swapped his shift and wasn’t onboard that day. Two weeks later he had a motorbike accident and died. When your number is up....

 

Also I don’t think they forgot to close the door, they regularly used to sail closing it as they moved. Not allowed now of course.

Yes, company orders to get sailing as quick as possible to meet the timetable. All the ferries used to cast off with the bow doors open, do a 180 and sail out of the harbour while the doors were in the process of being closed. In a bit of a swell, you could ship water quicker than you realised.

 

That Estonia vessel I think was caught in a storm and the bow doors either hadnt been closed or locked properly.

 

People dont realise how much sheer power there is in a wave. A cubic metre of water weighs 1 ton. Imagine having 25 metre waves crashing onto the bow of these vessels. Not a nice thought.

[Pidge]

This thread has made me very sad about using a picture of a capsized cruise ship as a zoom background for a virtual escape room thing I was in last week (the "room" was getting off an abandoned passenger boat).

[chrisbonnie]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

Yes, company orders to get sailing as quick as possible to meet the timetable. All the ferries used to cast off with the bow doors open, do a 180 and sail out of the harbour while the doors were in the process of being closed. In a bit of a swell, you could ship water quicker than you realised.

 

That Estonia vessel I think was caught in a storm and the bow doors either hadnt been closed or locked properly.

 

People dont realise how much sheer power there is in a wave. A cubic metre of water weighs 1 ton. Imagine having 25 metre waves crashing onto the bow of these vessels. Not a nice thought.

 

my old man used to do contract work on Irish Ferries back in the 80's. He's a flooring contractor, they'd go out for the weekend and fit new carpets-lino etc at night.

 

He was saying they used to have their stores in the bottom of the ship, near the engine room. First trip he did the weather wasnt too great, nothing crazy mind, just a bit rough, but when he was down in the bellows of the ship a big wave clattered into the boat and he said it created an inward dint the size of a van. He shit himself, ran back upstairs and was assured that was the norm. 

 

As for the cubic metre anaology, thats totally true, and if imagine just one inch of water across the whole car deck of a ferry, how much weight is that?  the ship was simply overturn. Scary shit. 

 

[easytoslip]

3 hours ago, Mook said:

Loads of cunts in Britain would be cheering like fuck at that.

I doubt that, there are plenty of cunts in the world without singling out Britain all the time. 

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, easytoslip said:

I doubt that, there are plenty of cunts in the world without singling out Britain all the time. 

I think he implying that they were mainly refugees who perished and that a lot of British cunts are currently all up for sinking refuges coming across the channel. 

[Stickman]

17 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

I don't remember it either. 

 

Which is odd as I remember the Zeebrugge disaster, and that was 7 years earlier. But maybe that's mainly because the fuckers at the BBC cancelled the Saturday morning kids programmes to devote rolling news coverage to a sunken ferry.

 

 

1987 would have meant Mike Read's Saturday Superstore being cancelled...

 

I'm saying nothing.....

[easytoslip]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

I think he implying that they were mainly refugees who perished and that a lot of British cunts are currently all up for sinking refuges coming across the channel. 

Maybe but that episode of WW2 was dreadful and I doubt people cheered that innocents died like that, and I know there was plenty of other instances then but that one seemed to a needless act of barbarism, good old Russia eh? 

Going back to migrants, what about their own kind profiteering out them, they are also cunts, have been to each other for 100s of years. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, easytoslip said:

Maybe but that episode of WW2 was dreadful and I doubt people cheered that innocents died like that, and I know there was plenty of other instances then but that one seemed to a needless act of barbarism, good old Russia eh? 

Going back to migrants, what about their own kind profiteering out them, they are also cunts, have been to each other for 100s of years. 

Oh the smugglers can get fucked for sure. 

[Mook]

1 hour ago, easytoslip said:

I doubt that, there are plenty of cunts in the world without singling out Britain all the time. 

You need to get out more then.

 

I've seen plenty people saying that we should just sink boats full of immigrants coming over the channel & heard similar in the pub too.

[easytoslip]

10 minutes ago, Mook said:

You need to get out more then.

 

I've seen plenty people saying that we should just sink boats full of immigrants coming over the channel & heard similar in the pub too.

I'm always out, everyone's heard that in pubs etc, you hear shite all the time whether on here, other social media or just in general 

I need to learn to stay in to be honest. 

[Mook]

Just now, easytoslip said:

I'm always out, everyone's heard that in pubs etc, you hear shite all the time whether on here, other social media or just in general 

I need to learn to stay in to be honest. 

So you doubt what I'm saying despite having seen/heard it yourself?

 

Ok.

[easytoslip]

8 minutes ago, Mook said:

So you doubt what I'm saying despite having seen/heard it yourself?

 

Ok.

No, it's just the singling out of Britain all the time when there is more cunt countries in this world. 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, easytoslip said:

No, it's just the singling out of Britain all the time when there is more cunt countries in this world. 

 

 

Come on mate, we are in Britain. It would have been weird if he went "The fucking venezualans will have been over the bastard moon" plus I haven't heard a load of other nationalities saying they hope refugees drown in the channel. 

 

Fuck Britain. 

[Mook]

3 minutes ago, easytoslip said:

No, it's just the singling out of Britain all the time when there is more cunt countries in this world. 

 

 

I live here, are you expecting me to single out cunts in a pub in Hawaii?

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Mook said:

I live here, are you expecting me to single out cunts in a pub in Hawaii?

They've had their own experience of ships getting drilled into the drink to be fair. 

[Mook]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

They've had their own experience of ships getting drilled into the drink to be fair. 

Also home to the World's largest live volcano.

[Strontium]

2 hours ago, Stickman said:

1987 would have meant Mike Read's Saturday Superstore being cancelled...

 

I'm saying nothing.....

 

Right, but his co-host was Sarah Greene.

[Stickman]

9 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Right, but his co-host was Sarah Greene.

Good shout with Sarah Greene , and also David Icke before he started seeing lizard people (or maybe that was Cheggers) 

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

*tries to think of something to add to thread*

*gives up and plays Snooker Stars on phone*

[chrisbonnie]

Just got around to watching this documentary on the discovery plus ➕ app on sky digital. 

 

Holy shit, those swedes are a dodgy bunch aren't they........... 

 

Not sure whether I should ruin it or not. But there seems plenty of evidence to suggest something untoward happened to that ship. 

 

The Swedish government in the first few days they'll do everything in their power to salvage the vessel and bring up the bodies. 

 

Then within weeks blatantly refuse to do this claiming it was too deep. Its only 70 metres below the surface. 

 

They've never bothered to actually investigate the ship for damage to see what caused the sinking. 

 

They sent a British salvage company down to see if it was possible to bring they bodies or ship up, when told it was easy enough to refused. Even though the British drivers got onto the ship and counted over 170 bodies they themselves could have resurfaced there and then. But they weren't allowed. 

 

The Swedish government, along with thread Estonian, Finnish and a free other baltic started then signed an agreement to declare the sight of the wreckage a grave site, which then made it illegal to dive there. 

 

The Swedish government then dropped 100,000 tonnes of rocks onto the wreckage from a barge, in an attempt to encase the wreckage. 

 

The swedes then had an "independent enquiry" into the disaster and the head of the tribunal openly admitted he burned the evidence after drafting up his findings as he thought there was no point in keeping any of the evidence...... Wtf!!! 

 

For any of the enquiries they never took statements from shut of the survivors. So when they published their findings, none of the timeliness fit with what the survivors went through. 

 

After 20 years the swedes admitted the Swedish military had smuggled Russian military equipment through Estonia and brought it to Sweden via the ferry itself. They admitted to doing it on two sailings a week and two weeks before the sinking, but wouldn't confirm whether they did on the night of the disaster. 

 

The list goes on and on. I'm even leaving out the most obvious and clear part of the cover up. But it's a great documentary and certainly one that should be watched.