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Bjornebye

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1 minute ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

I'm not sure where I saw it but there was a story of a clown driving from Bolton to somewhere like The Lake District or The Outer Hebredees (if that's not made up) in a convertible car, with the soft top down. The driver had a couple of other people in it, thankfully who turned out to be from the same household. The police pulled them over on the motorway and he simply said "It's too sunny to stay in Bolton." The driver was escorted back to their house.

Taken back to Bolton.

 

Poor bastard. 

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Just now, Dougie Do'ins said:

I watched the Horizon programme that was on BBC$ last night and then watched tonight's straight after. 

 

Unless someone has a huge stroke of luck in a laboratory this is not going away anytime soon, if at all.

I'd take the bet that this has already happened. 

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Just now, Mudface said:

To be fair, getting out of Bolton is a far better excuse than dropping food off to your relatives.

I think I must have missed something.

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9 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Could be lot longer than 18 months especially when they said after 40 years they still haven’t got a vaccine for HIV and the fastest ever produced is 5 years which was for Ebola.

Well worth watching and easily the best programme I’ve seen on it.

Cheers mate. Will take a look. It’s good this sort of stuff is being reported as the magnitude may gradually start sinking in for many who aren’t getting it.

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1 minute ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

Cheers mate. Will take a look. It’s good this sort of stuff is being reported as the magnitude may gradually start sinking in for many who aren’t getting it.

"Its just like the flu.... more people had died by this time in 2016, its embar.... oh........... oh fuck." 

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11 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

I watched the Horizon programme that was on BBC4 last night and then watched tonight's straight after. 

 

Unless someone has a huge stroke of luck in a laboratory this is not going away anytime soon, if at all.

Dr Hannah Fry who was very good doing the maths tonight about the virus did a very good programme eerily a couple of years back about how a pandemic would spread in the UK which is probably still on iPlayer called Contagion (not the film) But done in a more low key fashion as I guess no one thought it would ever happen in such a frightening way 

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21 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

I watched the Horizon programme that was on BBC4 last night and then watched tonight's straight after. 

 

Unless someone has a huge stroke of luck in a laboratory this is not going away anytime soon, if at all.

Getting the vaccine is simple, it’s integrating the autism inducing chemicals and identity chips that’s the hard part. Just ask David Icke. 

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11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

"Its just like the flu.... more people had died by this time in 2016, its embar.... oh........... oh fuck." 

To be fair, Wikipedia says flu season typically kills 300,000 to 600,000 people globally, and this is with widespread vaccination. We are now at 95,000 reported deaths, or possibly somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 of all deaths.

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Maybe the answer is to defeat it without any vaccine. Make masks normal for when there's an outbreak, contact trace, test, make anyone entering the country quarantine for 14 days, set up an international group to help countries that are having problems stopping new cases and so on. If a group of countries can stop cases (apart from those entering from abroad who are then quarantined) then there's hope that it can be wiped out.

 

At the moment that might seem almost impossible but if several countries start managing it then it can be done eventually. If our governments would collectively make this a priority instead of worshipping the economy we could have a group of countries sorted by the end of summer (apart from those entering, similar to what China has now), most by around autumn then clearing out the last traces of it in remaining countries by the end of the year.

 

But our governments are collectively stupid for a large part so that's probably not going to happen. If we can't get a vaccine though we should really look at trying to wipe it out instead of this slowing the spread crap. If we don't do that, slowing the spread could mean most of us will eventually get it and/or things won't return to any type of normal and that should never be an option.

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I think it looks so bad right now because we don't have the testing and tracing in place. Imagine testing available for every single essential worker, then instant contact tracing for any known cases we find. That's controlling the virus and can lead to it being wiped out. With our current idiots in charge though I wonder if they even imagine anything like that.

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2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Maybe the answer is to defeat it without any vaccine. Make masks normal for when there's an outbreak, contact trace, test, make anyone entering the country quarantine for 14 days, set up an international group to help countries that are having problems stopping new cases and so on. If a group of countries can stop cases (apart from those entering from abroad who are then quarantined) then there's hope that it can be wiped out.

 

At the moment that might seem almost impossible but if several countries start managing it then it can be done eventually. If our governments would collectively make this a priority instead of worshipping the economy we could have a group of countries sorted by the end of summer (apart from those entering, similar to what China has now), most by around autumn then clearing out the last traces of it in remaining countries by the end of the year.

 

But our governments are collectively stupid for a large part so that's probably not going to happen. If we can't get a vaccine though we should really look at trying to wipe it out instead of this slowing the spread crap. If we don't do that, slowing the spread could mean most of us will eventually get it and/or things won't return to any type of normal and that should never be an option.


You already have a number of countries where the active cases curve has been going down for several days. Germany, Austria, Switzerland. Italy's and Spain's looks like it will flatten soon too. Scandinavia doesn't look too bad, Eastern Europe was largely spared the first wave. It's mostly the region of France-Belgium Netherlands and UK where it looks like it's still spreading out of control. 

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7 minutes ago, SasaS said:


You already have a number of countries where the active cases curve has been going down for several days. Germany, Austria, Switzerland. Italy's and Spain's looks like it will flatten soon too. Scandinavia doesn't look too bad, Eastern Europe was largely spared the first wave. It's mostly the region of France-Belgium Netherlands and UK where it looks like it's still spreading out of control. 

 

We should get there eventually even if it does take longer. With some luck Johnson's illness and recovery will make him take this whole thing more seriously as well.

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9 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Hope this 1.5m distance in supermarket queues stays. Much prefer it. 

I haven't been to one for a while now, but one of the things that really bugged me about supermarkets was some prick standing right next to you when you're trying to enter your PIN. And the inevitable kids' group that'd offer to pack your bags really badly- 'no I'm OK, I can do it myself- here's a quid for you to fuck off and leave me to it'.

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2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

We should get there eventually even if it does take longer. With some luck Johnson's illness and recovery will make him take this whole thing more seriously as well.

Yep or he goes "Look, you might get poorly but it wasn't that and and here I am, we can all do it. Herd community will work. Lets get it done! Beaches , our great nation! Re-open the cash-flow! Erm I mean, economy! Yay for Brexit raagghh rather rarrrr!" 

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7 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Flattening over here actually. Not sure why Belgium is running higher like, doesn't make much sense. 

 

Dutch numbers here

 

https://www.rivm.nl/en/novel-coronavirus-covid-19/current-information-about-novel-coronavirus-covid-19

I asked my Belgian "contacts" but they could not explain, baffling, especially since the restrictions are tighter and began relatively early. One difference is that Belgians are testing more than the Dutch when you account for populations size, on the other hand, they have more deaths and here testing doesn't come into play. They have began adding non-hospital numbers which the Dutch may note have so far.

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28 minutes ago, SasaS said:

To be fair, Wikipedia says flu season typically kills 300,000 to 600,000 people globally, and this is with widespread vaccination. We are now at 95,000 reported deaths, or possibly somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 of all deaths.

Does wikipedia's flu page mention the bit about mass unemployment, economic meltdown and every way of life changing?

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5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yep or he goes "Look, you might get poorly but it wasn't that and and here I am, we can all do it. Herd community will work. Lets get it done! Beaches , our great nation! Re-open the cash-flow! Erm I mean, economy! Yay for Brexit raagghh rather rarrrr!" 

 

Yeah he might see it the other way and get even more arrogant, would be crazy if it happened and seeing as he's a Tory PM with the history he has a realistic chance of it happening I suppose.

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