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Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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The problem is the Tories, that's the real alpha and omega of the problem.   The referendum was called to quash the infighting that's riddled it for decades. Both leave and remain were front

Anubis
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I was thinking about this overnight. What I'm about to write may not find favour, but I also have a little bit of sympathy for Tommy Mair. He's done something heinous, and will pay for it, but did it

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I'll bet 50%  of them are bots.

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The post war years till the mid 70s were the best years for social exclusion and wealth distripubution this country has seen. It was a time of job security, education,  culture  and  political awarness. Not that not being part of the eu helped or hinded.  Just one of them things. 

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7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

In the 1970s a working class kid had more rights and opportunity than a kid of our time does now. It was not that bad. Id take the 70s over the shit we find ourelves in now.

I'm not trying to make any comparisons between the 70s and now: some things were better, some things were worse.

 

But you asked for context to Skend's claim that the UK has benefited economically (relative to other countries) since it joined the EU and I gave you what you asked for.

 

Y'know, my overlords at least have the decency to say "Merci" or "Danke" when I give them what they ask for.

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Just now, Gnasher said:

The post war years till the mid 70s were the best years for social exclusion and wealth distripubution this country has seen. It was a time of job security, education,  culture  and  political awarness. Not that not being part of the eu helped or hinded.  Just one of them things. 

That period was pretty much the same across the Western world; it wasn't a UK-specific thing.

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On 25/04/2019 at 07:55, skend04 said:

The UK has gone from being one of the poorest countries in the western world to the 5th richest. It's not the EU that prevented the equal spread of that wealth you fucking tool.

The point that always gets me about the “5th richest” argument is that it seems to suggest this will always be the case, nothing will change this placing. Well we can leave the EU and we’ll be fine as we’re the fifth richest in the world. Like all the other countries and corporate monsters will be happy to leave the UK as 5th richest.

it seems to forget that turn of the 20th century it was probably the richest (thanks to its imperial policy of exploiting and plundering the people and resources of foreign lands).

also with regards to 5th richest, I reckon this is already a fallacy, once you take into account how

much of britain’s wealth is held by the super-rich off shore - has no benefit to the citizens of the country; and start adding in the wealth of the super corporations which must themselves be considered as new imperial superpowers.

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One for the luvvies on here

 

 

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2017/06/30/rich-list-billionaires-scoop-millions-farm-subsidy-payments/

 

 

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During the referendum campaign Mr Gove – a prominent Brexit supporter – seemed to imply that there would be little change to the farm subsidies system post-Brexit. He told the Yorkshire Post there would be “no reduction in what people get from the CAP but what we do want to look at is the bureaucracy which leads to delays in payments”.

But since becoming environment secretary, he has stuck to the government line of committing only to maintaining the overall level of spending on farm subsidies until 2022. In a recent BBC interview, he said there was a “huge opportunity to design a better system” after Brexit, but when asked what form that would take he said he needed first to listen to farmers and environmentalists.

A government spokesperson said last night: “Leaving the EU gives us the opportunity to design a better system that works for the UK’s agricultural industry and helps our farmers to grow more world-class food.

“We have guaranteed the same cash total in funds for farm support until the end of the parliament to provide certainty for our farmers.”

 

So we'll continue to pay them post Brexit, only faster. At least till 2022. Then they'll probably get more......

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On 25/04/2019 at 23:20, AngryofTuebrook said:

That period was pretty much the same across the Western world; it wasn't a UK-specific thing.

Has it every occoured to you that maybe just maybe your beloved  eu has a tiny little bit of guilt when it comes to lack of opportunity and stability (especially for young people)  compered to 40 years ago? Capitalist policies have failed, its a major reason we have high youth unemployment.

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Spain at the polls today. The far right expected to make gains 

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/spain/youth-unemployment-rate

 

Youth unemployment stands at a whopping  32 %.

 

Another generation of poor people failed by the powers that be. The eu apologists should admit its fault in promoting the politics of austerity.

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