Top Ten Conspiracy Theories

[razor]

Do people I mean people who don't have an interest in this sort of thing genuinely believe in UFOS by that I mean aliens visiting earth.

 

I watched a documentary the other night about Apollo 11.  As they left the Earth's atmosphere a UFO flew over to them and travelled alongside for several hours.  Neil Armstrong described it to Control, but they told the crew not to mention it again as they were just about to go live and they didn't want to alarm the public.

 

Great documentary, by the way.  NASA also lied to the crew telling them that if one of the blasters failed on take off they could eject to safety, knowing full well that this was a lie.  Also, as they were about to take off, several men with monkey wrenches entered the ship to try and stop the hydrogen leak that had just started.  Instead of aborting the take off, NASA knew that the world would be watching live, so just stuck to the timetable with their fingers crossed.

 

And after all that, it was successful!

 

Or was it....?

[General Dryness]

If nothing else, she's not too hard on the eye. I'd lay a few chemtrails about the place.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAxXyMAmBMs#t=199

 

ETA : Fucking thing won't embed.

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There you go

 

[General Dryness]

Cheers, what did you do there?

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Right click on the video

 

Copy video URL

 

Paste here

 

Sometimes it gives you a block of text across the video but if you copy and paste that it seems to work.

[General Dryness]

Great, cheers.

[Red Phoenix]

Thought this was interesting :

 

 

December 27th, 1945 (Forrestal played golf with Kennedy)

 

I asked him [Kennedy] about his conversations with Roosevelt and Neville Chamberlain from 1938 on. He said Chamberlain's position in 1938 was that England had nothing with which to fight and that she could not risk going to war with Hitler. Kennedy's view: that Hitler would have fought Russia without any later conflict with England if it had not been for Bullitt's [William C. Bullitt, then ambassador to France] urging Roosevelt in the summer of 1939 that the Germans must be faced down about Poland; neither the French nor the British would have made Poland a case of war if it had not been for the constant needling from Washington. Bullitt, he said, kept telling Roosevelt that the Germans wouldn't fight, Kennedy that they would, and that they would overrun Europe. Chamberlain, he says, stated that America and world Jews had forced England into the war. In his telephone conversation with Roosevelt in the summer of 1939 the President kept telling him to put some iron up Chamberlain's backside. Kennedy's response always was that putting iron up his backside did no good unless the British had some iron with which to fight, and they did not. . . .

 

 

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=t1QEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA76&dq=Forrestal%20Diaries&pg=PA76#v=onepage&q=Forrestal%20Diaries&f=false

 

 

Wikipedia on Forrestal's death :

 

 

The official Navy review board, which completed hearings on May 31, waited until October 11, 1949, to release only a brief summary of its findings. The announcement, as reported on page 15 of the October 12 New York Times, stated only that Forrestal had died from his fall from the window. It did not say what might have caused the fall, nor did it make any mention of a bathrobe sash cord that had first been reported as tied around his neck.

 

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As a person who prized anonymity and once stated that his hobby was "obscurity," Forrestal and his policies had been the constant target of vicious personal attacks from columnists, including Drew Pearson and Walter Winchell. Pearson's protégé, Jack Anderson, later asserted that Pearson "hectored Forrestal with innuendos and false accusations."

 

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Doubts have existed from the beginning about Forrestal's death, especially allegations of homicide.

 

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"While those beliefs reflect the fact that Forrestal was a very ill man in March 1949, it is entirely possible that he was 'shadowed' by Zionist agents in 1947 and 1948. A close associate of his at the time recalls that at the height of the Palestine controversy, his (the associate's) official limousine was followed to and from his office by a blue sedan containing two men. When the police were notified and the sedan apprehended, it was discovered that the two men were photographers employed by a Zionist organization. They explained to the police that they had hoped to obtain photographs of the limousine's occupant entering or leaving an Arab embassy in order to demonstrate that the official involved was in close contact with Arab representatives."

 

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Columnists Drew Pearson and Walter Winchell led a press campaign—which many would today find libelous—against Forrestal to make him appear paranoid. But official evaluations of his psychiatric state never mentioned paranoia. One of Pearson's most spectacular claims was that at Hobe Sound, Florida, shortly before he was hospitalized, Forrestal was awakened by a siren in the middle of the night and ran out into the street exclaiming, "The Russians are attacking." No one who was there that night confirmed this claim. Captain George Raines, the Navy doctor in charge of Forrestal's treatment, called it an outright fabrication.

 

The first US ambassador to Israel James G. McDonald writing in 1951 describes the attacks on Forrestal as "unjustifiable", "persistent and venomous" and "among the ugliest example of the willingness of politicians and publicists to use the vilest means - in the name of patriotism - to destroy self-sacrificing and devoted public servants."

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#Death

[cochyn]

I watched a documentary the other night about Apollo 11.  As they left the Earth's atmosphere a UFO flew over to them and travelled alongside for several hours.  Neil Armstrong described it to Control, but they told the crew not to mention it again as they were just about to go live and they didn't want to alarm the public.

 

Great documentary, by the way.  NASA also lied to the crew telling them that if one of the blasters failed on take off they could eject to safety, knowing full well that this was a lie.  Also, as they were about to take off, several men with monkey wrenches entered the ship to try and stop the hydrogen leak that had just started.  Instead of aborting the take off, NASA knew that the world would be watching live, so just stuck to the timetable with their fingers crossed.

 

And after all that, it was successful!

 

Or was it....?

 

That docco sounds like utter bollocks mate.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Even so, any chance of a link ?

[Dan Vito Corleone]

Can't beat a good UFO conspiracy......

[Red Phoenix]

Petrodollar system :

 

[Red Phoenix]

More on the Petrodollar :

 

In the final stages of hegemonic power, one sees more and more naked intervention for narrow interests, abandoning earlier efforts towards creating stable international institutions. Consider the role of the conspiratorial Jameson Raid into the South African Boer Republic in late 1895, a raid, devised to further the economic interests of Cecil Rhodes, which helped to induce Britain’s Second Boer War. Or consider the Anglo-French conspiracy with Israel in 1956, in an absurd vain attempt to retain control of the Suez Canal.

 

Then consider the lobbying efforts of the oil majors as factors in the U.S. war in Vietnam (1961), Afghanistan (2001), and Iraq (2003). Although the role of oil companies in America’s Libyan involvement remains obscure, it is a virtual certainty that Cheney’s Energy Task Force Meetings discussed not just Iraq’s but Libya’s under-explored oil reserves, estimated to be around 41 billion barrels, or about a third of Iraq’s.

 

Afterwards some in Washington expected a swift victory in Iraq would be followed by similar US attacks on Libya and Iran. General Wesley Clark told Amy Goodman on Democracy Now four years ago that soon after 9/11 a general in the Pentagon informed him that several countries would be attacked by the U.S. military. The list included Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. In May of 2003 John Gibson, chief executive of Halliburton’s Energy Service Group, told International Oil Daily in an interview, “”We hope Iraq will be the first domino and that Libya and Iran will follow. We don’t like being kept out of markets because it gives our competitors an unfair advantage,”

 

It is also a matter of public record that the UN no-fly resolution 1973 of March 17 followed shortly on Gaddafi’s public threat of March 2 to throw western oil companies out of Libya, and his invitation on March 14 to Chinese, Russian, and Indian firms to produce Libyan oil in their place. Significantly China, Russia, and India (joined by their BRICS ally Brazil), all abstained on UN Resolution 1973.

 

The issue of oil is closely intertwined with that of the dollar, because the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency depends largely on OPEC’s decision to denominate the dollar as the currency for OPEC oil purchases. Today’s petrodollar economy dates back to two secret agreements with the Saudis in the 1970s for the recycling of petrodollars back into the US economy. The first of these deals assured a special and on-going Saudi stake in the health of the US dollar; the second secured continuing Saudi support for the pricing of all OPEC oil in dollars. These two deals assured that the US economy would not be impoverished by OPEC oil price hikes. Since then the heaviest burden has been borne instead by the economies of less developed countries, who need to purchase dollars for their oil supplies.

 

As  Ellen Brown has pointed out, first Iraq and then Libya decided to challenge the petrodollar system and stop selling all their oil for dollars, shortly before each country was attacked :

 

Kenneth Schortgen Jr., writing  on Examiner.com, noted that “ix months before the US moved into Iraq to take down Saddam Hussein, the oil nation had made the move to accept Euros instead of dollars for oil, and this became a threat to the global dominance of the dollar as the reserve currency, and its dominion as the petrodollar..”

 

According to a Russian article titled “Bombing of Lybia – Punishment for Qaddafi for His Attempt to Refuse US Dollar,” Qaddafi made a similarly bold move: he initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro, and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead, the gold dinar. Qaddafi suggested establishing a united African continent, with its 200 million people using this single currency. … The initiative was viewed negatively by the USA and the European Union, with French president Nicolas Sarkozy calling Libya a threat to the financial security of mankind; but Qaddafi continued his push for the creation of a united Africa.

 

 

 

And that brings us back to the puzzle of the Libyan central bank. In an article posted on the Market Oracle, Eric Encina observed :

 

One seldom mentioned fact by western politicians and media pundits: the Central Bank of Libya is 100% State Owned…. Currently, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank. Few can argue that Libya is a sovereign nation with its own great resources, able to sustain its own economic destiny. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability. Hence, taking down the Central Bank of Libya (CBL) may not appear in the speeches of Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy but this is certainly at the top of the globalist agenda for absorbing Libya into its hive of compliant nations.

 

 

Libya not only has oil. According to the IMF, its central bank has nearly 144 tons of gold in its vaults. With that sort of asset base, who needs the BIS [bank of International Settlements], the IMF and their rules.

 

Gaddafi’s recent proposal to introduce a gold dinar for Africa revives the notion of an Islamic gold dinar floated in 2003 by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, as well as by some Islamist movements. The notion, which contravenes IMF rules and is designed to bypass them, has had trouble getting started. But today the countries stocking more and more gold rather than dollars include not just Libya and Iran, but also China, Russia, and India.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-libyan-war-american-power-and-the-decline-of-the-petrodollar-system/24542

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just spotted this twat on Fb.

 

 

I can't be arsed finding out what the conspiracy theory behind this is: it'd only make me angry at stupid people.  As a general rule, anyone who tells people to "wake up" is a raving bullshit-eating eejit.  (Unless it's people telling you to literally wake up, because they want you to go to work or get off their lawn or whatever - and they can fuck off an' all.)

[General Dryness]

Get off my lawn.

[Malarkey]

Just spotted this twat on Fb.

 

 

I can't be arsed finding out what the conspiracy theory behind this is: it'd only make me angry at stupid people.  As a general rule, anyone who tells people to "wake up" is a raving bullshit-eating eejit.  (Unless it's people telling you to literally wake up, because they want you to go to work or get off their lawn or whatever - and they can fuck off an' all.)

 

This monetary system we're in restricts scientific advances. "Why can't we find a cure for the biggest killer of the human race?" "Oh, it's because we haven't got enough of this man made object we use for credit in exchange for services, to develop a cure."

[AngryOfTuebrook]

This monetary system we're in restricts scientific advances. "Why can't we find a cure for the biggest killer of the human race?" "Oh, it's because we haven't got enough of this man made object we use for credit in exchange for services, to develop a cure."

Cancer's not the biggest killer, though, is it?  Also, it's not a single disease for which we're looking for a single cure.  Huge strides have been made in prevention, detection and treatments, thanks to ongoing research: hence the ever-improving survival rates.  There are many ways in which the capitalist system militates against human health and well-being, but hiding the cure for cancer is not one of them.  If a "cure for cancer" could be found, it would be massively lucrative.  Scientific advances are not "restricted" by capitalism, just misdirected away from long-term usefulness and towards short-term profitability.  The real "biggest killers of the human race" are conditions which are survivable in the rich world, but much less so for the majority of people who are poor and vulnerable.

 

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/

Ischaemic heart disease, stroke, lower respiratory infections, chronic obstructive lung disease, diarrhoea and HIV/AIDS have remained the top major killers during the past decade.

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Get off my lawn.

You can fuck off an' all.

[General Dryness]

You can fuck off an' all.

 

If I see you in my garden again, I'll show you pictures of ladies with their tits out in the tabloid media until you cry. I figure two or three pics should do it.

[Guest davelfc]

They know the cure for all obesity related illnesses and yet those sneaky bastards with all the money won't tell anyone. Well not if Birkenhead town centre is anything to go by. 

[Cardie]

This monetary system we're in restricts scientific advances. "Why can't we find a cure for the biggest killer of the human race?" "Oh, it's because we haven't got enough of this man made object we use for credit in exchange for services, to develop a cure."

 

Yep it's why we're still trying to smash things with rocks and you're reading this through the magic of smoke signals.

[Malarkey]

 

Cancer's not the biggest killer, though, is it?  Also, it's not a single disease for which we're looking for a single cure.  Huge strides have been made in prevention, detection and treatments, thanks to ongoing research: hence the ever-improving survival rates.  There are many ways in which the capitalist system militates against human health and well-being, but hiding the cure for cancer is not one of them.  If a "cure for cancer" could be found, it would be massively lucrative.  Scientific advances are not "restricted" by capitalism, just misdirected away from long-term usefulness and towards short-term profitability.  The real "biggest killers of the human race" are conditions which are survivable in the rich world, but much less so for the majority of people who are poor and vulnerable.

 

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/

Ischaemic heart disease, stroke, lower respiratory infections, chronic obstructive lung disease, diarrhoea and HIV/AIDS have remained the top major killers during the past decade.

 

 

I agree with the rest of your post, and thanks for the facts and figures. But I disagree with the denial of capitalism not restricting scientific advances. I'm not a space-nut, but if the US Government took a series of class A drugs and thought one day it would make its space program the top of the budget list, are you trying to say that that free reign and bigger budget wouldn't help scientific advances? I beg to differ.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I agree with the rest of your post, and thanks for the facts and figures. But I disagree with the denial of capitalism not restricting scientific advances. I'm not a space-nut, but if the US Government took a series of class A drugs and thought one day it would make its space program the top of the budget list, are you trying to say that that free reign and bigger budget wouldn't help scientific advances? I beg to differ.

We live in the same city - and look how we're choosing to communicate!  Some scientific advances are doing brilliantly, because they're being driven on by the profit motives.  Others (mainly those which would improve the lives of poor people) are indeed being restricted by capitalism.

[manwiththestick]

Read a book a while ago, Rule by secrecy by Jim Marrs, very interesting read goes into the Rothchilds, Rockefellas and such. Doesn't make you reach for the tin foil hat but there's definitely things happening or have happened that us minions are not to know about.

[Stu Monty]

People conspire.

 

Every day.

 

Thinking that very powerful people are not colluding with each other and manipulating the media, government, energy and money supply to their own interests then you truly are batshit crazy.

[Paulie Dangerously]

I bet GlaxoSmithKline has the cure for colds/flu but bollocks if they'll give it out. They could probably vaccinate the world but imagine how much profit they'd lose if we all stopped buying 'symptomatic relief' products?

 

Cunts absolute cunts. Can eradicate small pox but can't do the sniffles? Fuck you