Vlad speaks

[Guest TK-421]

Yes, there's quite a few reactionaries on this site it seems.

 

Hermes said we had no creativity or flair, I said we had that in Garcia. I don't see what the problem is. It's not reactionary it's a discussion about footballers on a football forum. Or would you prefer to talk about why winning the league is important?

[kopitegaz]

Oh dear, this thread started off with a sarcastic Rashid laying into Vladi, and has since turned into a free for all on Kewell and (mostly) Garcia.

[crazy_pool_fan]

Having an argument about an undefined term such as "Squad player" is pointless. Especially with a goalpost-moving specialist like Hermes.

 

:D :D

 

tbh the discussion did confuse me on how well to define a "squad player" and Garcia's situation.

 

But fairplay to Hermes for not moving goalposts for one particular viewpoint - don't expect the manager to win the league with our current resources as compared to the other three teams. Find that a admirable to a certain extent respectable perspective/point-of-view.

[Josef Svejk]

Vlad was a decent bloke who did his best. It didn't work out, despite his talent. But he had his big day in Istanbul, and it was well deserved.

 

I don't think anything he's said, regardless of when he said it, could be construed as an attempt to undermine Benitez or the club...

[Josef Svejk]

... was he "hiding" during the penalty shootout, by the way Rash?

[Wig]

Vlad was a decent bloke who did his best. It didn't work out, despite his talent. But he had his big day in Istanbul, and it was well deserved.

 

I don't think anything he's said, regardless of when he said it, could be construed as an attempt to undermine Benitez or the club...

 

I'll go with that. I think he wanted to play at Anfield that 1 last time, that much, that he had to get it out of his system.

[MLB]

... was he "hiding" during the penalty shootout, by the way Rash?

 

 

Exactly.

 

Debate over.

[aws]

Vladi or Luis - difficult to choose between them if both playing at their best. The main reason why I think Luis is an up-grade is his better injury record.

 

Vladi rarely played fully fit but still never hid and finally got a well-deserved CL medal.

[Dr.Filth]

He used to regularly pull out of tackes Dave. I am not having that he never hid, he did - quite often. Garcia on the other hand never hides.

 

Utter bullshit. He ALWAYS made himself available for a pass even when he was getting terrible stick from gobshites like you in the crowd for not 'getting stuck in'. That wasn't what his game was about. And don't make out that he only contributed in Istanbul either, he was our most creative player during the treble season and many of his team mates pointed out on a number occasions how much they appreciated his contribution to the team.

[Guest TK-421]

Utter bullshit. He ALWAYS made himself available for a pass even when he was getting terrible stick from gobshites like you in the crowd for not 'getting stuck in'. That wasn't what his game was about. And don't make out that he only contributed in Istanbul either, he was our most creative player during the treble season and many of his team mates pointed out on a number occasions how much they appreciated his contribution to the team.

 

Vladi speaks!

[Rashid]

Utter bullshit. He ALWAYS made himself available for a pass even when he was getting terrible stick from gobshites like you in the crowd for not 'getting stuck in'. That wasn't what his game was about. And don't make out that he only contributed in Istanbul either, he was our most creative player during the treble season and many of his team mates pointed out on a number occasions how much they appreciated his contribution to the team.

 

He scored 2 goals in the league that season from 26 appearances, man a sub, he played 11 games in Uefa and didn't score.

 

Team mates spoke about how great he was in training!

 

He was never our most creative player in the treble season, that was Gary Mac. Steven Gerrard was also brilliant, and even Jari contributed more. This Smicer was great (just cos he is a good bloke) is utter bollox.

[Kopite]

C'mon folks. You must remember Rash's "Vladi is a c*nt" post in the aftermath of Istanbul?

 

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20606&highlight=smicer+cunt

 

At least he's consistent.

 

Tackling wasn't part of John Barnes game. Does this mean he also hid during games?

[Kopite]

He scored 2 goals in the league that season from 26 appearances, man a sub, he played 11 games in Uefa and didn't score.

 

Team mates spoke about how great he was in training!

 

He was never our most creative player in the treble season, that was Gary Mac. Steven Gerrard was also brilliant, and even Jari contributed more. This Smicer was great (just cos he is a good bloke) is utter bollox.

 

Gary Mac only really contributed in the last 12 games in my opinion (even though it was pretty crucial).

 

Jari contributed more than Vladi????

 

Nurse! No get some stats to back that one up please.

[Rashid]

Gary Mac only really contributed in the last 12 games in my opinion (even though it was pretty crucial).

 

Jari contributed more than Vladi????

 

Nurse! No get some stats to back that one up please.

 

Name me Vlad's contributions - the key crucial ones....

 

What sticks out about 2001 and Vladimir Smicer?

[Rashid]

C'mon folks. You must remember Rash's "Vladi is a c*nt" post in the aftermath of Istanbul?

 

http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/showthread.php?t=20606&highlight=smicer+cunt

 

At least he's consistent.

 

Tackling wasn't part of John Barnes game. Does this mean he also hid during games?

 

Was 7th April the AFTERMATH OF INSTANBUL?

[Kopite]

Name me Vlad's contributions - the key crucial ones....

 

What sticks out about 2001 and Vladimir Smicer?

 

The two in Istanbul are more than enough.

[Rashid]

The two in Istanbul are more than enough.

 

You mentioned Vlad's contribution in 2001 why backtrack now? I am not denying Istanbul, re-read the thread.

[Kopite]

Was 7th April the AFTERMATH OF INSTANBUL?

 

I can't find the thread where you called him a w*nker or a c*nt, however Dave U does point out in that thread that you did talk about Vladi in those terms.

 

As you quote Dave to back up your arguments then that will do. :tease:

[Kopite]

You mentioned Vlad's contribution in 2001 why backtrack now? I am not denying Istanbul, re-read the thread.

 

You'd miss his contribution if it painted itself purple and danced naked upon a harpsicord singing "Vladi's contrbution is here again" (to the tune of "Happy Days Are Here Again").

 

I can't be bothered engaging in this argument as it is like a fully armed Rambo duelling with a cabbage armed with a piece of Lego (and not the "hard brick" type of Lego).

[kopitegaz]

Name me Vlad's contributions - the key crucial ones....

 

What sticks out about 2001 and Vladimir Smicer?

 

Goals in both legs of the League cup semi (including the crucial away goal). Goals v Man City in the FA cup. Won the free kick that led to the golden goal in the UEFA cup final etc etc etc.

[RedKnight]

Vladi was awesome when played up front with Owen against West Ham. He also looked like a proper Romany Gypsy. Vladi was a good lad.

 

Anyone who doesn't like Garcia doesn't like puppies and christmas.

 

 

 

This dial-up connection I'm using is awful.

[RedinSweden]

And as annoying as standing barefootedly on a piece of Lego.

 

that is true pain

[CWD82]

I remember Vladi, after having a particularly shit game as per the norm, turning into the Kop net to berate the people stood behind the goal after we had conceded against someone from a corner in Houllier's last season.

 

I assume that these people he chose to berate were questioning Vladimer's commitment to the cause because in general he was fucking awful. I admired Vladi for saying something back but at the same time I thought he had a fucking cheek because he was a big girls blouse

 

That is my most memorable moment of Vladi, closely followed by a fucking screamer against Chelsea.

 

I hope he gets a good ovation, which I'm sure he will, when we play them at Anfield for Istanbul alone. But the fairlytale romanticism that he was a good player for us that deserves respect for anything other than that one night is laughable. He was shite and sums up the mediocrity of the Houllier years for me

[Cardie]

Didn't he finish second in the assists table one season (Beckham was first I think)

[05 Milan]

Vladi and Milan read porn mags on the team bus. Vladi loved prostitutes. Vladi told Red Nick about Riise's dirty little secrets. Vladi rules!