Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[FanchesterCity]

OK so you wont produce any figure so I'll post you a link. http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=627

 

You labour under the misapprehension that the 'race' to declare first is just down to counting votes. It isnt. Its been widely reported in GE coverage sunderland employ more counters than nearly every other consitituencies. They also use a rapid collection of ballot boxes from polling stations to the counting centre. They employ young lads to rush the boxes from the vans into the centre.

 

You also forget other consitituencies also try and declare first. In actual fact, it looks like Newcastle will declare first anyway so your point still falls.

 

Your premise that the vote is rushed to declare first is based on false premises but if you dont want to accept the facts, that's your right.

 

That just helps to prove my point! Authorities going out of their way to be first - why? for PR. It's not for accuracy is it?

My point doesn't fail at all, as it's not a dig at Sunderland, it's a dig at ANY authority going out of their way to be first. There is absolutely no need to be first, and I'd rather they used any additional resources on improving accuracy than speed.

 

The vote IS rushed to declare first - by employing more people in order to finish first, and by changing the ballot paper for the purposes of improving speed. Why? What value is added by finishing first? none.

 

The link you've provided shows election results - not inaccuracies. We 'accept' there are inaccuracies in all ballots. They only come into play when the result is close, and a recount takes place. When the recount takes place, it demonstrates inaccuracy (but it doesn't show what the inaccuracy was, it only shows the difference between two counts, both likely to be incorrect values, which is why some votes even go to a 3rd recount).

[The Midnight Rambler]

Betfair still say it's a 78% chance for remain. Hard not to ignore the exchange market though.

[Red Phoenix]

Betfair still say it's a 78% chance for remain. Hard not to ignore the exchange market though.

 

It's probably just Soros having a quick gamble before he goes to bed.

[Sputnik1]

Just those bet markets reacting to speculation, people looking to make a quick buck. Once a few more results come it will settle again.

[Strontium]

How fucking dramatic can you get?

 

According to the Lancet, the last financial crisis may have been responsible for more than 500,000 excess deaths from cancer alone between 2008 and 2010.

 

Now admittedly that is a global recession, whereas the next one is going to be heavily concentrated on the United Kingdom. But this next one will dwarf the last one here. There is no question, based on what happened with the last one, that we are talking of thousands of extra deaths in this country alone.

[Spy Bee]

It's hard to read. The trading on financial markets 30 minutes before polls closed is all a bit odd. Anyway, I suspect I'll wake up to a Remain victory.

 

Night kids.

[Megadrive Man]

Betfair still say it's a 78% chance for remain. Hard not to ignore the exchange market though.

 

 

It was over 90% around 10pm!

[jimmycase]

That just helps to prove my point! Authorities going out of their way to be first - why? for PR. It's not for accuracy is it?

My point doesn't fail at all, as it's not a dig at Sunderland, it's a dig at ANY authority going out of their way to be first. There is absolutely no need to be first, and I'd rather they used any additional resources on improving accuracy than speed.

 

The vote IS rushed to declare first - by employing more people in order to finish first, and by changing the ballot paper for the purposes of improving speed. Why? What value is added by finishing first? none.

 

The vote isnt 'rushed' as you suggest. Rushed suggests cut corners and negligence to achieve the aim. They are expedient and despite your rhetoric, you havent produced a single stat that supports even your '2%' error rate.

[magicrat]

Sunderland is a disaster

[jimmycase]

Massive lead for Leave in Sunderland.

[FanchesterCity]

Sunderland Leave

[Spy Bee]

2.66

[cochyn]

 

 

Ukip: 7 Remain, 93 Leave

 

So we can deduce that at least 7% of the UKIP voters are either confused by the question, don't know why they support UKIP, or, are fuckwits.

[Spy Bee]

Projected result 56% leave!

 

Ooosh!

[Brownie]

Leave is defo winning here.

[Bjornebye]

This is fucking worrying now.

[FanchesterCity]

The vote isnt 'rushed' as you suggest. Rushed suggests cut corners and negligence to achieve the aim. They are expedient and despite your rhetoric, you havent produced a single stat that supports even your '2%' error rate.

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120202151713.htm

https://www.insidescience.org/content/even-careful-hand-counts-can-produce-election-errors/563

[njackets]

What the fuck just happened? I went the bog and Leave was about 50% behind, I come back and leave are in the Lead?

 

*Off to stay in the Bog all night*

[Jairzinho]

Leave is defo winning here.

 

No it isn't.

[Creator Supreme]

This will be leave by 16-18%, a walkover.

 

The Tories will have outlawed unions by 2018!!

[magicrat]

This is fucking worrying now.

 

Indeed but its two results from the North east. I'll wait and see whether other regions go the same way before topping myself.

[The Midnight Rambler]

Leave back to 3.2 on Betfair.

[Strontium]

Sterling is in freefall. $1.50 to $1.44 in minutes.

[njackets]

Leave at 2/1 tempted to crack a can open and pull an all nighter this could be fucking epic!

[moof]

Not an encouraging start to proceedings. The pound is dropping like a stone.