Joe Allen thread

[Unrighteous]

Because very few of them are anywhere ear good enough to achieve the aims we're setting ourselves over the coming seasons. 10, 20, 50, it doesn't matter; if they're all like Adam, Spearing, Henderson, Shelvey, et al, we're not going to get anywhere.

 

We need quality, not just quantity. Honestly, people on here - not necessarily you - need to wake up and realise how poor our squad is. Would Adam, Shelvey, Spearing, Henderson, Cole, and their ilk have played any significant amount of games in the Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Sissoko side?

 

There's a reason why those players got us into the top four with ease and challenged for the title, and there's a reason why we're finishing 6th-8th. It's not hard to work out.

 

Henderson and Shelvey would definitely get game time... Those four couldn't start every match.

[MLB]

We definitely need to shift a few central midfielders.

[Koptimus Prime]

As long as Spearing is one of the first ones out we'll be heading in the right direction, apart from pointing he is shite.

[Guest ShoePiss]

Because very few of them are anywhere ear good enough to achieve the aims we're setting ourselves over the coming seasons. 10, 20, 50, it doesn't matter; if they're all like Adam, Spearing, Henderson, Shelvey, et al, we're not going to get anywhere.

 

We need quality, not just quantity. Honestly, people on here - not necessarily you - need to wake up and realise how poor our squad is. Would Adam, Shelvey, Spearing, Henderson, Cole, and their ilk have played any significant amount of games in the Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Sissoko side?

 

There's a reason why those players got us into the top four with ease and challenged for the title, and there's a reason why we're finishing 6th-8th. It's not hard to work out.

 

Hanky, our goal is what? Well, I think it's maybe finish 4th (lucky!), maybe. If not 6th will be ok. We don't need anything for that, be happy.

 

5th! Sweet! We finished ahead of Spurs or maybe Chelsea! We can't ask for more!

 

Remember when we? Ah fuck it.

[Dave D]

Because very few of them are anywhere ear good enough to achieve the aims we're setting ourselves over the coming seasons. 10, 20, 50, it doesn't matter; if they're all like Adam, Spearing, Henderson, Shelvey, et al, we're not going to get anywhere.

 

We need quality, not just quantity. Honestly, people on here - not necessarily you - need to wake up and realise how poor our squad is. Would Adam, Shelvey, Spearing, Henderson, Cole, and their ilk have played any significant amount of games in the Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Sissoko side?

 

There's a reason why those players got us into the top four with ease and challenged for the title, and there's a reason why we're finishing 6th-8th. It's not hard to work out.

 

"Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Sissoko side"

 

It hurts to read that. What a midfield. What the f**k happened?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bjornebye]

"Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Sissoko side"

 

It hurts to read that. What a midfield. What the f**k happened?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Rafa hit the ale.

[Dave D]

Rafa hit the ale.

 

Must have been special brew. With a side helping of crack.

[Bjornebye]

more than a side helping if he rated barry and aquilani over alonso.

 

allen hasn't looked great for gb for me and although I rate him, anything much above 10 million smacks of henderson territory....

[Dave D]

more than a side helping if he rated barry and aquilani over alonso.

 

allen hasn't looked great for gb for me and although I rate him, anything much above 10 million smacks of henderson territory....

 

Sod Allen. We should spend the 15m on a decent scout and a top negotiator.

 

Some of the prices we get quoted when we enquire after relatively unknown/inexperienced players-like Allen/Henderson- are astronomical.

 

On the flip side, some of our very best players are allowed to go for the same kind of prices. Somebody pointed out that City were weighing up £13m bid for Agger. £13M?? We'd get quoted that if we asked about Robert Huth! They signed Lescott for £24m the cheeky bastards!

 

The money Spurs will no doubt get for Modric will be well over the odds (albeit he's a good player) because they simply wont budge. If the player sulks they just say tough shit.

 

Agger and Skrtel are both £20m based on current market value, market value being the ludicrous merry go-round that City themselves created.

[Whelan]

Sunderland have bid £10m for Fletcher! Wolves want £15m.

[Bjornebye]

ridiculous money. fletcher is shite.

[Guest San Don]

We knocked back city's 'bid' of £13m straight away, didnt we?

 

Its the manc press trying to make out we're going to sell one of our better, if injury prone, players for that amount. With 2 years left on his deal, there's no way Agger is going anywhere for less than £20m.

[WhiskeyJar]

ridiculous money. fletcher is shite.

 

Absolutely absurd.

 

Makes you wonder what a young Heskey will go for in these times.

[Captain Turdseye]

He would have been a £35m player.

[WhiskeyJar]

I am trying to determine how much a club would pay for someone like Alan Shearer who went for 15million to Newcastle from Blackburn in today's market.

 

Going by that 15million in 1996 and the 15million is rumored for Fletcher, then I calculate Shearer would go for 34.5 million.

 

I could be totally wrong though....

[Jairzinho]

I think, baring in mind the difference in quality between Fletcher and Shearer, its nearer £4 zillion.

[Geraghty]

Forgetting about the fee anyone seen him a fair bit and think he is a good signing?

 

His stats (I know) are impressive and they are the good kind of stats like Passing Accuracy and stuff not the Downing kind

[The Woolster]

I am trying to determine how much a club would pay for someone like Alan Shearer who went for 15million to Newcastle from Blackburn in today's market.

 

Going by that 15million in 1996 and the 15million is rumored for Fletcher, then I calculate Shearer would go for 34.5 million.

 

I could be totally wrong though....

 

Sounds like you are using the UKs actual inflation rate? Football transfer fee inflation has been much higher. Shearer was the World record fee at the time, its now £80m.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

Forgetting about the fee anyone seen him a fair bit and think he is a good signing?

 

His stats (I know) are impressive and they are the good kind of stats like Passing Accuracy and stuff not the Downing kind

 

I'll be made up if we sign him. Our usage of the ball last season was abysmal at times.

[Anubis]

Are we there yet?

[WhiskeyJar]

Sounds like you are using the UKs actual inflation rate? Football transfer fee inflation has been much higher. Shearer was the World record fee at the time, its now £80m.

 

You are right, its more like 48million, was not far though.

 

 

Its called the Transfer Price Index.

 

Also Heskey, 31million....

[The Woolster]

You are right, its more like 48million, was not far though.

 

Its called the Transfer Price Index.

 

Also Heskey, 31million....

 

Having had a quick read, I would say this TPI still undervalues Shearer now. They have calculated the TPI using all the transfers in each season to get an average, so it is a good approximation to tell the difference between what an average player would have cost at different points (eg what Fletcher would have cost in Shearer's time). The 2 main issues are, without giving it too much thought, that there are more bosmans now than there were around Shearer's time, bringing the average down, but also the price at the top end of the market has increased quicker still than the average price.

 

Torres, on the back of an injury plagued and somewhat lathargic 6 to 12 months and having only managed to score over 20 league goals in a season once = £50m. Shearer on the back of being top scorer at the Euros, and having scored over 30 league goals in each of the previous 3 seasons = a lot more than £50m.

[Red '84]

gianluigi lentini, what a shame.

[Trucker Paddy]

gianluigi lentini' date=' what a shame.[/quote']

 

Car crash ruined him

[Trucker Paddy]

"@johncrossmirror: Joe Allen. Nice and tidy. But £12m? No. £15m even? Don't be daft. You really think Carroll and Henderson might have taught #lfc a lesson."

 

And with that he sets up a goal