Carragher

[Captain]

I think it depends quite a bit on how Coates gets on. When he gets ahead of Carra in the pecking order Carra won't get much of a look in.

[George Costanza]

I don't see any problem. We currently have two CB's performing really well in the knowledge we have a quality old head and an exciting young prospect waiting in the wings should they be required (which they will in this busy period)

[Trucker Paddy]

Are we going to have a problem with Carragher if Skrtel and Agger keep this form up?

 

I seem to remember in his autobiography he said he won't be happy staying on the bench at Liverpool towards the end of his carrer - he'd rather playing first team football at another club.

 

I wonder how long Carragher will accept not playing?!

 

There is a good chance Agger might get injured, but if he doesn't and they keep this form up - how can Kenny drop Agger of Skrtel?

 

Your fuckin mad, this after your Kenny is been told to not pick maxi by Henry and Commoli

[Guest LFD]

Your fuckin mad, this after your Kenny is been told to not pick maxi by Henry and Commoli

 

I didn't say that.

[Trucker Paddy]

 

I didn't say that.

 

" I get the impression they are trying to force Maxi out. Just speculation on my part - but he is on big wages and not the youngest. FSG / Comolli might be looking at him as an area where they can save costs and bring in a younger, cheaper but similar option."

 

 

That's a quote from you, which in anybody's language states that the owners are trying to force Maxi out by not picking him, they don't pick the team so your saying there trying to influence the manager, don't try bullshit your way out of it, that's what you implied

[Faustus]

LFD's a knobhead.

 

Best ignoring him, Paddy lad.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

This thread is new and exciting, and not necessarily in that order.

[Guest LFD]

" I get the impression they are trying to force Maxi out. Just speculation on my part - but he is on big wages and not the youngest. FSG / Comolli might be looking at him as an area where they can save costs and bring in a younger, cheaper but similar option."

 

 

That's a quote from you, which in anybody's language states that the owners are trying to force Maxi out by not picking him, they don't pick the team so your saying there trying to influence the manager, don't try bullshit your way out of it, that's what you implied

 

If you quoted all of my comments on the issue, rather than select sentences then you might see what I was trying to say by that. I clarified what I exactly meant with my other messages on the subject. It also has nothing to do with this thread. But don't worry you gold members can do what you like it seems.

 

Faustus I don't know what I have done to justify that comment from you, but if that's what you think fair enough.

 

I honestly can't be arsed with this place at times, I don't abuse anyone, just give my opinions. Shame others can't do the same. Also a shame Dave can't be bothered to moderate the abuse.

[ChicagoRed]

Coates and Kelly offer great alternatives in the centre. Sorry to say, but Carra is yesterday.

He was poor coming on against Villa and he should be planning to drop down and play or start his coaching career. He's been a great asset and deserves the affection he gets

[xerxes]

Carra wil be happy to pick up his wages, pick up the coaching side, act as the wise head in the dressing room and offer his experience to all around, whilst playing the odd game.

 

His new contract assumed that - the man wants the Manager's job in the future.

[Guest San Don]

LFD's a knobhead.

 

Best ignoring him, Paddy lad.

 

Yep, he's trying to make an issue about a potential situation when caragher hasnt said a word this season about not being in the side.

[Guest LFD]

Yep, he's trying to make an issue about a potential situation when caragher hasnt said a word this season about not being in the side.

 

I merely asked a question.

[Guest San Don]

I merely asked a question.

 

Fuck off with that shite! You're just one of a number of thread starters who want to kick off about our players.

[Guest LFD]

Fuck off with that shite! You're just one of a number of thread starters who want to kick off about our players.

 

That's not true.

[Guest San Don]

That's not true.

 

Attention seeker alert.

[piscinin]

Coates is going to need games if we want him to adapt. So who comes in next is not a no-brainer for me. Carragher gave an interview couple of months ago and the play me or I'm off perspective has obviously softened with time.

[Trucker Paddy]

Coates is going to need games if we want him to adapt. So who comes in next is not a no-brainer for me. Carragher gave an interview couple of months ago and the play me or I'm off perspective has obviously softened with time.

 

I think Coates might play Wednesday, 2 games in 3 days best not to tempt faith with Agger

[zigackly]

Next time we see Coates will be January sixth against Oldham I reckon.

[piscinin]

I think Coates might play Wednesday, 2 games in 3 days best not to tempt faith with Agger

 

I'd leave them be TBH. Once the front players learn how to shoot at goal we can start taking some chances. We do need to work out how to get him games though because a few games here and there in the CC and FA Cup is probably not going to cut it if we expect him to adapt in a year.

[piscinin]

Next time we see Coates will be January sixth against Oldham I reckon.

 

That does seem to be the plan for now.

[Trucker Paddy]

 

I'd leave them be TBH. Once the front players learn how to shoot at goal we can start taking some chances. We do need to work out how to get him games though because a few games here and there in the CC and FA Cup is probably not going to cut it if we expect him to adapt in a year.

 

I'd play him in one of next 2 games, then let Agger play v Newcastle and let him play in FA cup.

One thing is Skertl and Agger know they have competition and its making them raise there game, certainly in Skertl's case anyway

[norwichlfc]

The only thing i have heard / read Carra say about his future , is that he knows he is getting older and maybe a bit slower and being realistic would look towards retiring in a couple of years.

 

Liverpool's Jamie Carragher could retire in 12 months - Telegraph

 

Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher admits he could retire next year - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk

[Magic Sponge]

After losing his place in the team, he plays against Chelsea in the Cup and puts in a flawless performance. That's what he's all about.

 

Aldo made a comment after the Q.P.R game about Carra's professionalism. The fact that he was goin through a full warm down on his own despite not playing.

[G Richards]

Carra is a top professional. He loves Liverpool and he has immense respect for Kenny. If he wants first team football then no one would begrudge him that if he wanted to move on. I suspect someone like Bolton could do with his nous to help shore up their back line. He wouldn't have to move and his family would be undisturbed.

 

Or he could continue to stick around at Liverpool, which I suspect is exactly what he will do. Agger and Skrtel are the first choice pairing on merit. But Carra is ready should he be needed, and history shows that Agger can't keep going for very long without getting injured - though I hope that finally the lad can stay fit for an extended period, as he is a very good player and he has had more than his fair share of bad luck with injuries.

 

If Kenny decides that Coates also gets ahead of Carra in the pecking order, and this might be a possibility as the lad is no mug, then I could see that sharpening Carra's focus, and I would expect him to be fourth choice for a short time, and then to move into the coaching side of things.

 

It will be interesting to watch, but one thing is for sure - Carra won't cause any problems whatsoever. He is a model pro, he loves the club, and has great respect for Kenny.

[buffaloboy]

I see Carragher and his situation as very much the new version of Phil Thompson in the 80's. After 10 years or so of great service to LFC Joe Fagan came in as manager and obviously thought Thommo had had his day. He had a season at Liverpool where he didn't make an appearance (1983-84) and then when Kenny took over he let Thommo go to Sheffield Utd on a free which he accepted. Thommo must have thought it would be nice to keep playing but he was so steeped in LFC that he didn't have the heart any longer to play for another club and so aged 31 he quit playing, not due to injury.

 

I see Carra in the same vein, IF he did leave Liverpool I can't see him playing for another club. I don't think his heart would be in it either. At his age where would he go? Probably a Blackburn or a Wigan type club where he would be in a crap defence and with his lack of pace he would just be exposed time and again.

 

He should just stay at Liverpool and be there if needed. As people have said with Agger's bad injury record it's a formality that soon enough he will be out for a run of games and when that happens we won't look quite so flush in defence.