Social Responsibility

[Duff Man]

I actually dont, but I do know one called O'neil, and one called Jerry, (Both from totally different sides of the "Black" divide) but neither have killed anyone because their family are of the lowest order of society by proxy.

 

Sorry here, but you kill people because you are a cunt, not because you were brought up to know nothing better, or different.

 

 

The ADHD thing was a piss take btw.

 

Erm, ok....

[Paulie Dangerously]

I haven't interacted with many black people in my life due to my location and social circle. Possibly about 5 or 6 who I've known enough to speak to. Those I have met can be split pretty much 50/50 into two groups:

 

1. People like me, wanting gainful employment, respect for others and themselves.

 

2. Drug dealers, wannabe rappers or work shy race-card-playing idlers.

 

 

This is just my experience of 28 years living in North Liverpool. I'm sure it's different in other places

[firemarshall]

He was very personable and charming and bright enough that, like you, I did think "what if?" in terms of his upbringing.

 

That said, every violent, murdering cunt in that place will have a hard luck story to tell, and not every kid with bad or non-existent parents turns into a multiple murderer.

 

I felt sorry for him, but the black community as a whole loves to feel sorry for itself and blame outside forces for every single thing that goes wrong.

 

And that isn't just in America. Look at London ffs.

 

Go away and read your Daily Mail. Theres a good chap.

[MOGLET]

Go away and read your Daily Mail. Theres a good chap.

 

 

Hmmmm

 

Seeing reality = Racist daily mail reader

 

Thinking all black people who are murderers are this because of a shite upbringing and bad family background based on the fact they had a shit life due to being oppressed = PC perfect way of thinking?

 

Wake the fuck up.

 

 

Colour doesnt come into this debate, unless we are only talking colour of course, but then, what of the white people who commit murder? are they different because they didnt have a mass of slavery and oppression to call upon when it comes to being downtrodden?

 

The slave trade, the one historic crime fits all oppression based reason for being a cunt.

 

Racism isnt part of this debate, so get the fuck over it.

 

Being black isnt a reason to be a murdering cunt

 

Being black doesnt mean you blame slavery and oppression through history as a reason for being a murdering cunt.

 

 

The guy is a cunt simple.

 

 

 

 

Now where did I put my Daily mail?

[MOGLET]

Erm, ok....

 

 

Saw right through me, no, I dont go with it tbh, funny how it only appeared in the last 15 or so years though, when I was a kid, it meant you were a gobshite who needed a slap.

 

Attention deficit? twat who has never been taught right from wrong and has been allowed to get away with it.

 

 

Anyway, I really must get back to my Daily Mail

[Section_31]

The white collar criminals who've ruined the banking system, MPs who defraud your taxes to have their moats cleaned, who make sweetheart deals with corporations have done more to impact your life than some random-head from a council estate ever will.

 

We deny the snobbish English assumption that the uneducated are the dangerous criminals. We remember the Roman Emperors. We remember the great poisoning princes of the Renaissance. We say that the dangerous criminal is the educated criminal. We say that the most dangerous criminal now is the entirely lawless modern philosopher

 

 

 

I think the more you live hand to mouth, the more desperate you become, the more your mind and 'morals' adapt to suit your goal of survival.

 

I've been depressed in the past and emerged from my 'spell' more cynical, more selfish to a degree and more determined to look after number one. Sometimes something radical can happen to you, say being diagnosed with a serious illness or having a kid, which can shift your value system again.

 

I think if I'd been raised with little or no chance of getting on in life I'd resent that fact and I'd be willing to fuck society in order to get by. In many ways, it could be argued that these people are actually better examples of Darwin theory than those who just accept their lot, wither and eventually die younger than they should and hopelessly poor.

 

I'm not talking about this chap specifically but I don't know his background, but generally speaking, would you play a rigged game or would you try and change the rules? I know what I'd do.

[Pony Princess]

A black guy started work at my place last week. Was a bit worried at first but he can use a knife and fork, does his business in the toilet like normal people and nothing has been stolen yet.

 

I think I could get used to this 'equal opportunities' lark :)

[Captain]

Yeah there are hundreds of the same individuals who dont go on to be murderers in the same position, but we have a responsibility for educating the the next generation. Right?

 

Discuss.........

 

What's to discuss?

[RJ Fan club]

 

Agreed.

 

The Brighton Marine Palace and Pier is a pleasure pier in Brighton, England. It is generally known as the Palace Pier for short, but has been informally renamed Brighton Pier since 2000 by its owners, the Noble Organisation, in an attempt to suggest that it is Brighton's only pier. The West Pier was its rival but was closed in 1975 and was subsequently severely damaged by fires and storms, with the remaining iron structure being partially demolished in 2010.

 

Work began on the Palace Pier in 1891 and it opened in May 1899 after costing a record £27,000 to build. This was Brighton's third pier. A condition to be met by its builders, in exchange for permission to build, was that the first, The Royal Suspension Chain Pier of 1823, which had fallen into a state of disrepair, was to be demolished.[1] They were saved this task by a storm which largely destroyed the Chain Pier.

 

A concert hall opened two years later, and by 1911 this had become a theatre .

 

During World War II the pier was closed and some decking removed as a security precaution.[1]

 

Summer shows with stars such as Dick Emery, Tommy Trinder and Doris and Elsie Waters were held in the theatre until the 1970s.[1]

 

During a storm in 1973, a 70-ton barge moored at the pier's landing stage broke loose and began to damage the pier head, particularly the theatre.[1] Despite fears that the pier would be destroyed, the storm eased and the barge was removed.[1] The damaged theatre was never used again.[1]

 

In 1986 the theatre was removed, on the understanding that it would be replaced.[2] This has not happened, and the present seaward end building looks fairly modern in comparison with the rest of the structure, supporting a domed amusement arcade and several fairground rides, including several thrill rides, children's rides, roller coasters and a log flume.

 

A bomb planted by the IRA near the pier in 1994 was defused by a controlled explosion.[3]

 

The pier had signs reading "Brighton Pier" attached to it in 2000, although this change is not recognised by the National Piers Society or many of the residents of Brighton and Hove. The local newspaper, The Argus, still generally refers to the structure as the Palace Pier.

 

The Palace Pier suffered a large fire on 4 February 2003 but the damage was limited and most of the pier was able to reopen the next day. This was a fraught period for Brighton's piers, with much damage occurring to the West Pier (of 1866) shortly before and after this event.

 

In 2004 the Brighton Marine Palace Pier Company (owned by the Noble Organisation), admitted an offence of breaching public safety under the Health and Safety at Work Act and had to pay fines and costs of £37,000 after a fairground ride was operated with part of its track missing. Judge Nicholas Ainley, passing sentence at Hove Crown Court, said that inadequate procedures were to blame for the fact that nothing had been done to alert staff or passengers that the ride would be dangerous to use. As a result, the current management, none of whom were employed at the time of the incident, began a detailed new training programme and now employ a full-time health and safety manager.[citation needed]

 

The pier was listed at Grade II* on 20 August 1971.[4] As of February 2001, it was one of 70 Grade II*-listed buildings and structures, and 1,218 listed buildings of all grades, in the city of Brighton and Hove

 

Yeah, that wiki entry is a bit dated. There's more listed buildings now.

 

What's you're interest in the Palace Pier Stumpers?

[firemarshall]

I felt sorry for him, but the black community as a whole loves to feel sorry for itself and blame outside forces for every single thing that goes wrong.

 

This is seeing reality is it?

 

Thinking all black people who are murderers are this because of a shite upbringing and bad family background based on the fact they had a shit life due to being oppressed = PC perfect way of thinking?

 

When and where did I say this?

 

hmmmm.

[Guest ShoePiss]

Yeah, that wiki entry is a bit dated. There's more listed buildings now.

 

What's you're interest in the Palace Pier Stumpers?

 

Oh that, FG was saying that these gangsta types look up to their piers, who are older than them...and they should be educated. Just doing my bit for the community.

[RJ Fan club]

Oh that, FG was saying that these gangsta types look up to their piers, who are older than them...and they should be educated. Just doing my bit for the community.

 

Ah right I missed thst. I do miss the odd thing with forum runner.

[Duff Man]

Saw right through me, no, I dont go with it tbh, funny how it only appeared in the last 15 or so years though, when I was a kid, it meant you were a gobshite who needed a slap.

 

Attention deficit? twat who has never been taught right from wrong and has been allowed to get away with it.

 

 

Anyway, I really must get back to my Daily Mail

 

I'm sorry but you've completely lost me. You quoted a throwaway remark I made about everyone knowing a Dave and started blathering on about ADHD and The Daily Mail?

[dennis tooth]

Bunch of racists, you can't tell me that Nirvana or NWA are any different.

 

I see we have a new racist daily mail rent boy on the thread father?

[dennis tooth]

Anyway there are no actual evil people in the world so deal with it.

[VladimirIlyich]

Whether the post was highlighting race or not,the vast majority of prisoners were black or hispanic,surely 95% of them arent criminals?

[mattyq]

The guy hadn't been tried yet so was presumed innocent.

I don't really see it as a colour thing more of a economic thing.

In the US the blacks are generally at the bottom of the pile economically. This is obviously a generalisation as there will be lots of wealthy blacks too but if you come from the poorest sector of society then you're going to suffer with all the issues associated with the making it more difficult to succeed.

[Section_31]

Anyway there are no actual evil people in the world so deal with it.

 

Watching this care home abuse thing and I'm not so sure I agree with you.

[Magic Sponge]

 

Watching this care home abuse thing and I'm not so sure I agree with you.

 

Just seen that myself mate.

 

Truly shocking.

[dennis tooth]

Watching this care home abuse thing and I'm not so sure I agree with you.

 

Are you religious?

[WaltonRed]

Silverlining in talking shite shocker

[Strontium]

Sorry to go off-topic, but why is there a tag about me on a thread I haven't posted in?

 

Clown shoes.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Democracy Now! | May 30, 2011

 

If ye've got an hour to spare, three interesting interview with a Canadian doctor, specialising in mental health etc, Gabor Maté, feeds into this. With regards to what S31 posts above re society as a whole being gunned from above, this is a continuing effect of the breakdwon of society Thatcher, Friedman, Reagan and their cohorts were seeking in the 80's - we are reaping what they sowed, but fuck there's a tasty profit for those at the top.

[Unrighteous]

He was very personable and charming and bright enough that, like you, I did think "what if?" in terms of his upbringing.

 

That said, every violent, murdering cunt in that place will have a hard luck story to tell, and not every kid with bad or non-existent parents turns into a multiple murderer.

 

Psychos are usually fairly charming.

[Steve Holt]

Something I've thought for a while is that there are simply too many people.

 

There aren't enough opportunities for everyone to have them. The population boom of the last century and probably the next one and the next one, will cripple the human race. Even graduates in this country struggle to get jobs.

 

For every person who prospers a hundred people have to suffer, because there just is not enough to go around. As the population rises, the number of people who have to suffer for one person to prosper will increase.

 

One day I hope we'll find another system of governance which is not based on money. It seems ridiculous but the system that exists in Star Trek where everyone works because that's the only way the world works, rather than working for the money, is the only way to end the cycle of social and economic retardation.

 

Everything in our society is ruled by money. As long as that is the case, we are ruled by it too. As long as we are ruled by money there will be people who are better at getting it than others and the others will always be desperate to get more. When people are desperate, they do terrible things.

 

Fuck money. It's the root of all our ills.