How much of a good move is THIS takeover?

[8jordan8]

I been watching SSN all day, I'm largely undecided whether or not this is a good move. Obvisiously they are not going to throw money at the club Man City style but are they the right people WE as fans want to take over?

I know pretty much anyone is better than the rats we already got, the fans need to be happy with the ownership this time or we will end up back in the same boat, months/years down the line. Your thoughts?

[hamstrung]

Its gr8!

 

Jordan! Beddy byes!

[bluey]

Its just back to square one, there was dancing and deep joy on the Kop when H & G took over, now we are back to the same scenario with two different Yanks coming in.

 

5 years down the line it will all kick off again, this is not the answer.:(

[DiddisSillyRun]

Its just back to square one, there was dancing and deep joy on the Kop when H & G took over, now we are back to the same scenario with two different Yanks coming in.

 

5 years down the line it will all kick off again, this is not the answer.:(

 

:yes:

[llego]

:yes:

 

:wallbutt:

[Magic Sponge]

Who the fuck set off the mong hand grenade?

[Anubis]

Its just back to square one, there was dancing and deep joy on the Kop when H & G took over, now we are back to the same scenario with two different Yanks coming in.

 

5 years down the line it will all kick off again, this is not the answer.:(

 

:yes:

 

:wallbutt:

 

:tease:

[stevienando]

Its just back to square one, there was dancing and deep joy on the Kop when H & G took over, now we are back to the same scenario with two different Yanks coming in.

 

5 years down the line it will all kick off again, this is not the answer.:(

 

How to get out of debt and be successful: Be cynical.

[Liverpool lad]

I think Liverpool have the commercial clout to be run as a viable business, and hopefully UEFA will level the playing field soon with regards to Chelsea and Manchester City. If Broughton has done his homework and stopped anymore LBO nonsense with the tight contractual agreement he has already mentioned, this could be a very good day for the club.

[Wor Horse]

LL is spot on.

[stringvest]

8jordan8. I DON'T know yet, but I am cautiously optimistic.

[nickjt]

Need a new protest now. How about 'stop pricks starting threads'. Not very catchy, but precise.

[YNWAViking]

We Will See.

[llego]

Ok so we've decided about THAT takeover, but what about THIS one?

[Unrighteous]

I think Liverpool have the commercial clout to be run as a viable business, and hopefully UEFA will level the playing field soon with regards to Chelsea and Manchester City. If Broughton has done his homework and stopped anymore LBO nonsense with the tight contractual agreement he has already mentioned, this could be a very good day for the club.

 

Uefa plans to restrict spending power of wealthy owners

• Clubs would be able to spend only what they earn

• Michel Platini aims to end "financial doping"

 

 

The owners of big-spending Premier League teams could soon find themselves prohibited from operating their clubs at heavy losses under plans being proposed by European football's governing body.

 

In a 60-page document seen by the Times Uefa sets out its intention to restrict the spending power of the likes of Chelsea's Roman Abramovich and the Manchester City owner, Sheikh Mansour, in order to ensure the financial stability of its leading clubs.

 

It is an attempt by the Uefa president, Michel Platini, to put an end to what he describes as "financial doping" – where wealthy businessmen underwrite huge losses – and to move towards a situation where clubs can spend only what they earn.

 

Under the proposals, which Uefa intends to bring into effect in 2012, owners would be permitted to fund losses for a transitional period but the sums of money used for that purpose would be closely monitored.

 

Initially losses of up to €45m (£40m) would be acceptable in the three years up to 2015. That figure would drop to €30m over the following three years, with Uefa ultimately hoping to reach a point where clubs are breaking even.

[thekid]

ITS A BAD MOVE, we need better investers

 

The Boston Red Sox are invariably cited as evidence of Henry's style and success. What is not being mentioned is his experience as owner of his previous team, another American baseball outfit, the Florida Marlins. His tenure there was nothing short of a disaster.

 

With the marlins, Henry expected that the taxpaying public would fund a new stadium for the club. When that failed to happen, Henry proceeded to sell all of the squad's top players. Even though he had promised to build the stadium with his own funds if the public did not fund it.

 

Moreover, he then looked for a way to rid himself of the club once the public would not fund his new stadium. Imagine this, the very same day he sold the club, Florida, he immediately turned around and bought the Boston outfit. After buying the Boston outfit, he was quick to criticize the coaches and remaining management of the Florida squad, saying they were poor. All of which looked quite laughable when the same Florida outfit he scoffed at won a championship a mere 1-1/2 years later.

[Rex Banner]

This much >-----------------------<

[michaelgordon]

Who the fuck set off the mong hand grenade?

 

This made me laugh, 10hrs into a 12hr nightshift i needed that

[llego]

ITS A BAD MOVE, we need better investers

 

The Boston Red Sox are invariably cited as evidence of Henry's style and success. What is not being mentioned is his experience as owner of his previous team, another American baseball outfit, the Florida Marlins. His tenure there was nothing short of a disaster.

 

With the marlins, Henry expected that the taxpaying public would fund a new stadium for the club. When that failed to happen, Henry proceeded to sell all of the squad's top players. Even though he had promised to build the stadium with his own funds if the public did not fund it.

 

Moreover, he then looked for a way to rid himself of the club once the public would not fund his new stadium. Imagine this, the very same day he sold the club, Florida, he immediately turned around and bought the Boston outfit. After buying the Boston outfit, he was quick to criticize the coaches and remaining management of the Florida squad, saying they were poor. All of which looked quite laughable when the same Florida outfit he scoffed at won a championship a mere 1-1/2 years later.

 

Hmm, I'm sorry but this does not stand up to even the most basic research. I'm using the wikipedia article on the Florida Marlins for my facts: Florida Marlins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

The Marlins won the world series in 1997. The previous owner proceeded to dismantle the world series winning team.

 

Following the World Series victory, Huizenga dismantled the team, claiming financial losses despite winning the World Series. He traded most of the club's best players in one of the biggest fire sales in sports history; one so infamous, it has come to epitomize the term "fire sale" in the baseball world. The first deal came days after the World Series, when outfieldler Moisés Alou was traded to the Houston Astros for pitchers Oscar Hernandez and Manuel Barrios. The Marlins then traded Kevin Brown to the San Diego Padres for Derrek Lee and 2 minor leaguers. Finally, in May 1998, they dealt Bobby Bonilla, Gary Sheffield, Charles Johnson, Jim Eisenreich, and Manuel Barrios to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile, both of who would be gone via trades by midseason.

 

After this came their worst season in franchise history. John Henry bought the team following that season in 1998.

 

1999 saw another poor finish, but in 2000 they finished a respectable third. 2001 saw a fourth place finish with several promising youngsters responsible.

 

At the end of the 2001 season, John Henry sold the team and bought the Red Sox with the money. He switched franchises. Don't see how that's unbelievable or immoral.

 

You say he then criticized the coaches he had worked with even though they went on to win silverware. Well, that's impossible, because right after Henry sold the Marlins to Jeffrey Loria, the entire management and coaching staff was replaced. THEY then went on to win the world series again in 2003.

 

Entering the new year, Henry sold the Marlins to Montreal Expos owner Jeffrey Loria, clearing the way for Henry to buy the Boston Red Sox. Loria brought the entire Expos management and coaching staff to the Marlins. David Samson became team president, Larry Beinfest became General Manager and Jeff Torborg became manager.

 

So all of your allegations (except for the bit about the stadium, which wasn't covered in the wiki) are false. No asset stripping, no huge drop in performance, and no bitter press hatchet jobs about proven coaching staff.

 

I wonder where you got your info.

 

Besides, it's all missing the point. He's not a leveraged buyout merchant. He doesn't do business by juggling huge amounts of debt. Frankly, that's all we really want.

[Alan Sex]

:tease:

 

[thekid]

To be fair I haven't found any really credible websites about this matter but everything I have been reading is still interesting articles like this aren't very valid but still interesting to look into epltalk.com/the-good-and-bad-of-john-w-henry-liverpools-potential-new-owner-25351

[looneylen2]

I Feel that this will be a good move for the club as a whole, but I worry that this is just a short term investment.

 

I really hope that I am wrong with this as if we do not make a european place this year then we can kiss goodbye to Torres and co.

 

Come on you Reds.

[Rafa_The_Gaffa]

I cant get excited about this until the press conference confirming it as official.

[me1]

Hodgson will be kept on apparently.

Fucking great stuff.

[Liverpool lad]

Great post Lance