Jose Mourinho banned and fined over 'handcuffs' gesture

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

oh come off it!! thats like saying i have to tell my old man i cant talk to him till he stops reading that rag.While he understands and agrees the rag was totally out of order with what they did like he said thats his choice and just incase anyone forgot we as humans have a choice.

 

and to agree with another post i do think as fans we live in the past way to much.So what if we won the league 18 times so what if we won the european cup/champions league 5 times sorry but its all about this season to me.Yes its nice to have a history but does that really help results now?

 

I don't even know an Evertonian who reads that rag, let alone a Liverpool fan.

[andyj]

I don't even know an Evertonian who reads that rag, let alone a Liverpool fan.

 

forgot to say he was a villa fan :whistle: same i dont know any liverpool fan that does

[SiliconeSoul]

D'ya? Can't see Mourinho wanting to be part of the mess we're in.

 

The only reason Benitez is still here is because he loves us isn't? I love him too, and his cheeky grin.

 

This debate can be cleared up pretty quickly. It all comes down to whether you believe Jose would get more out of the current squad, and if you believe he couldn't, well, you'd be wrong.

[Carra_is_legend]

I don't even know an Evertonian who reads that rag, let alone a Liverpool fan.

 

That explains why you didn't understand my points!

 

Trust me, there are hundreds of them. I've seen Liverpool fans reading that rag PLENTY of times in motorway services. I even tried to make couple of fans aware of our relationship with that rag and they tried to smack me!

[SiliconeSoul]

I don't even know an Evertonian who reads that rag, let alone a Liverpool fan.

 

You do know that the rag still gets sold in Liverpool, right? Who do you think is buying it? Out of towners on a day trip?

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

That explains why you didn't understand my points!

 

Trust me, there are hundreds of them. I've seen Liverpool fans reading that rag PLENTY of times in motorway services. I even tried to make couple of fans aware of our relationship with that rag and they tried to smack me!

 

Anyone who regards themselves as even an armchair Liverpool fan, yet reads that rag needs to have a serious word with themselves, regardless of where they are from

 

And good on you for trying to educate them, don't ever be a sympathiser for the proles

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

You do know that the rag still gets sold in Liverpool, right? Who do you think is buying it? Out of towners on a day trip?

 

People like you?

[andyj]

The only reason Benitez is still here is because he loves us isn't? I love him too, and his cheeky grin.

 

This debate can be cleared up pretty quickly. It all comes down to whether you believe Jose would get more out of the current squad, and if you believe he couldn't, well, you'd be wrong.

 

we all love rafa (well most of us :biggrin:) but i think the 1 thing Mourinho is good at is pampering players and getting the best out of them where rafa tends to leave them out the team and let them sulk devalue and we end up losing a bucket load of money when we sell them

[goatboy59]

Let's trash Hiddink.

 

Let's trash Mourinho.

 

 

 

It's not gonna save him, y'know.

[SiliconeSoul]

People like you?

 

Classy guy, just like our Jose. I won't mention the fact that I had family at the game that day, who ended up on the pitch helping others, and none of us have so much as browsed through the rag since then, not that we did before anyway.

 

I'm merely pointing out the bizarre lengths you're going to to discredit a manager with absolutely no links to the club or city.

 

But it's your party.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Let's trash Hiddink.

 

Let's trash Mourinho.

 

 

 

It's not gonna save him, y'know.

 

He doesn't need saving, but if you want to talk about replacements, what about Capello?

 

You don't want Jose any more than I do

[Carra_is_legend]

He doesn't need saving, but if you want to talk about replacements, what about Capello?

 

Capello is my first choice all day long.

 

I will take him before I blink.

 

If we can't get Capello we will be stupid not to look at Mourinho or Hiddink.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Classy guy, just like our Jose. I won't mention the fact that I had family at the game that day, who ended up on the pitch helping others, and none of us have so much as browsed through the rag since then, not that we did before anyway.

 

I'm merely pointing out the bizarre lengths you're going to to discredit a manager with absolutely no links to the club or city.

 

But it's your party.

 

You won't mention it, but then go and do it anyway?

 

In regards to Jose having no links, it's fairly well known he's followed Liverpool for a long time, and knows a great deal about our history and has supported us for years, I think it's mentioned in his autobiography in detail

 

In regards to your family, why would you even possibly consider apologising for people who read it or associate with people who write for it, given what they have gone through?

[shanks69]

Capello is my first choice all day long.

 

I will take him before I blink.

 

If we can't get Capello we will be stupid not to look at Mourinho or Hiddink.

 

hiddink is taking over as coach of turkey in june.

[goatboy59]

Maybe not.

 

But pouring a ton of vitriol on the 'usual suspects' is a big fuck-off sign.

 

Why do you think "Curbs" endded up as such a joke? Why do you think O'Neill ended up as such a "poisonous goblin"?

 

Because they were linked with THE job when Houllier was on his last legs, and the boot went in left right and centre from the truly, truly desperate.

 

Nothing is new in this world.

[SiliconeSoul]

You won't mention it, but then go and do it anyway?

 

In regards to Jose having no links, it's fairly well known he's followed Liverpool for a long time, and knows a great deal about our history and has supported us for years, I think it's mentioned in his autobiography in detail

 

In regards to your family, why would you even possibly consider apologising for people who read it or associate with people who write for it, given what they have gone through?

 

You're awfully pedantic when you're defending a loved one (Rafa). When I'm actually apologising for anyone or anything, I'll let you know. Anyway, it's gone way off topic, which I'm sure was your plan all along. Benitez is still the greatest living human and no one else is worthy of managing Liverpool FC. We get it.

[Anubis]

But pouring a ton of vitriol on the 'usual suspects' is a big fuck-off sign.

 

Why do you think "Curbs" endded up as such a joke? Why do you think O'Neill ended up as such a "poisonous goblin"?

 

Because they were linked with THE job when Houllier was on his last legs, and the boot went in left right and centre from the truly, truly desperate.

 

Nothing is new in this world.

 

Firstly, when we were looking to move Houllier on Mourinho would have been my first choice (when I knew little about him other than his record), but I've disliked him ever since watching him operate at close quaters in the Premier League. At least I'm not prepared to overlook what he's been preapred to do to good people who tried to help one of his players, simply because I'd like my football team to win things.

 

I've not said a bad word about Gus. I've not said a bad word about Curbishley (but have said I didn't think he could take us forward before Rafa came). I don't have a problem with Capello either, for that matter.

 

If you want to know about how O'Neill became a goblin well that was me, and me alone. I call him the Snidey Fucking Goblin because that is what he is. He is a snide. He looks like a goblin. And yes, I do think he's overrated.

 

It isn't about pouring vitriol on all potential successors, it's about knowing who the bad apples are and saying it because, believe it or not, some of us don't think that winning football competitions comes before some of our other values in life.

[King Emlyn]

Benitez's time is up, that much is clear. History will judge him a good Liverpool manager i believe, but his time is up now, it's blindingly obvious. All that said i don't want Mourinho. It's nothing to do with personalities as i never judge people i don't personally know (the argument about him being a friend of a Sun journalist is buttock clenchingly desperate by the way) but i just don't like his style of football, he may well win things, he may not; but all i want to see now is some good, exciting, attacking football.

[WhiskeyJar]

Jesus Christ I dont know whats worse....momo voicing that which makes no sense at all or people actually agreeing with him!

[stringvest]

In my opinion, Benitez is a self serving disingenuous snide who happens to be managing our football club. Guess what? Managers are not saints. They are not perfect, and they are not usually admirable people in themselves. They usually have huge egos, and they are usually control freaks. They usually make inflammatory comments, often designed to wind opposition teams, managers and fans up. And guess what? Fans of the managers' teams will put up with a lot as long as their managers are delivering the goods. Benitez is more or less anti what all of has come to be known as The Liverpool Way. Despite my dislike of him, I wouldn't object to Benitez staying here for the next twenty years if he was actually doing any good.

[Hermes]

He knows how to win titles and he could do a lot better with our squad. I could soon warm to him if he brought silverware here

 

Shame he is out of our league at the moment.

 

Only because he's in Seria A.

[diego]

In my opinion, Benitez is a self serving disingenuous snide who happens to be managing our football club. Guess what? Managers are not saints. They are not perfect, and they are not usually admirable people in themselves. They usually have huge egos, and they are usually control freaks. They usually make inflammatory comments, often designed to wind opposition teams, managers and fans up. And guess what? Fans of the managers' teams will put up with a lot as long as their managers are delivering the goods. Benitez is more or less anti what all of has come to be known as The Liverpool Way. Despite my dislike of him, I wouldn't object to Benitez staying here for the next twenty years if he was actually doing any good.

 

It takes one to know one.

[Section_31]

In my opinion, Benitez is a self serving disingenuous snide who happens to be managing our football club. Guess what? Managers are not saints. They are not perfect, and they are not usually admirable people in themselves. They usually have huge egos, and they are usually control freaks. They usually make inflammatory comments, often designed to wind opposition teams, managers and fans up. And guess what? Fans of the managers' teams will put up with a lot as long as their managers are delivering the goods. Benitez is more or less anti what all of has come to be known as The Liverpool Way. Despite my dislike of him, I wouldn't object to Benitez staying here for the next twenty years if he was actually doing any good.

 

Rafa is starting to remind me of Gordon Brown. He's clinging on, doesn't really understand what he's doing wrong, but likes to say and do the things he thinks the fans want to hear and see. The 'when you walk through a storm hold your head up high' he came out with that time was the LFC manager equivalent of a Labour leader taxing rich people before an election.

[Hooch]

So he's causing some shit over there in Italia. Up to him, init?

 

I'd still have him in a heartbeat.

 

Section in hitting nail on head shocker as well. Brilliant comparrison.

[diego]

We should try and get the manager of that Valencia team that lit up Anfield with its fast, mobile game and made us look like the hopeless cloggers we were. The same Valencia team that won the Europa Cup (as its called now) and Champions League Cup and beat out Real Madrid and Barcelona for the title to the Liga. But hang on, that Valencia team was managed by Benitez wasn't it?

 

Back to the drawing board!