Keir Starmer

[Gnasher]

Another day, another broken pledge.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jonathan-ashworth-signals-end-heinous-30146504

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

The latest broken pledge hasn't gone down well in Scotland.

 

 

 

Nor in Wales.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[clangers]

Pretty appalling this. I understand he feels he needs to ape Blair and New Labour but simply choosing to rollover every nasty Tory policy for fear of offending the core Tory vote and the media will just result in Labour becoming the Tory party in government. What next from Starmer? He'll be outlining a new Labour policy of locating gunboats in the channel and firing on those pesky immigrants?

[Gnasher]

Looks like Starmers core support in the media are turning against him, as Peter Oborne alludes to in his tweet.

 

Both Steve Richards and John Harris are/were center left Starmer supporters. The article by Harris in tomorrows Guardian is the third article critical of Starmer by former supporters in as many days. Its an excellent piece of writing and it's bang on the button.

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/16/labour-changes-little-power-social-forces-councillors-climate?s=09

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Report in the Financial Times says 1.5 million kids affected by the 2 child cap. Capital gains, Corperation and top rate of income tax will remain untouched so Labour will continue to protect the wealthiest. 

 

 

 

 

 

Caroline Lucas is right.

 

Starmers thrown 1.5 million kids under the bus to protect the wealth of the super rich. Its a cunts trick.

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

He’s a fucking conman. 

[Scooby Dudek]

The fact that suggesting rich people have a little less so that people can afford food and shelter is seen as politic suicide shows you how much influence these self serving cunts and their media lackeys have.

 

 

It's the same with inheritance tax, the Tories are going to abolish it, it will get excessive media coverage which will all be negative, yet it effects less than 4% of the population. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

The lovely Susie Reid is taking no prisoners on Labour's shelving of the two child benefit pledge this morning. Yvette Cooper didn't know whether she was coming or going (and Coopers one of Labours better performers). Reid explains (Cooper didn't have the figures) that out of the 1 5 million kids affected half a million are to parents in work. Then asks Cooper to remind us of Starmers five so called missions  (Cooper struggled) then Reid remarked they are like a kite in the wind anyway.  Brutal.

 

Labour are now to the right of former Conservative centrist ministers on the issue. Here's Amber Rudd from a few years ago.

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/amber-rudd-scraps-extension-of-twochild-benefit-cap-after-winning-cash-battle-with-chancellor

 

 

Here's economist Richard Murphy on Starmers fiscal plans announced yesterday. Fair to say he was not impressed.

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Good, well thought out article on national treasure George Osbornes 2015 two child benefit cap at the the bottom of this tweet. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Anubis]

On the praiseworthy side for Labour, Khan is introducing free school meals for primary school kids in London in September. Hats off to him for that.

[Gnasher]

8 minutes ago, Anubis said:

On the praiseworthy side for Labour, Khan is introducing free school meals for primary school kids in London in September. Hats off to him for that.

 

Yeah good on Khan. Welsh Labour have dropped free out of school meals this summer. Not good by Drakeford. Not good at all.

 

 

[Anubis]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

 

Welsh Labour have dropped free out of school meals this summer. Not good by Drakeford. Not good at all.

 

I agree. That’s poor from Drakeford.

[Gnasher]

These announcements by Labour (and Welsh Labour) come a few weeks after we saw reports of Scurvy and Rickets being diagnosed in British hospitals.

 

 

 

 

[Arniepie]

starmer is being given a lot of leeway because most sensible people know that the alternative, another 5 years of these monstrous cunts,is almost unthinkable.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

How can they not get on the front foot over the economy?

"Poverty is through the roof in a rich country. Even people in work are struggling to pay the rent, pay the bills, feed their kids and heat their homes. That's because 13 years of these cunts have fucked everything up. Vote for us and we'll do something different."

 

Come out swinging, you shithouse!

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

starmer is being given a lot of leeway because most sensible people know that the alternative, another 5 years of these monstrous cunts,is almost unthinkable.

 

He wasn't being given a lot of leeway from Susie Reed this morning. Their have been three negative articles on him by previous supporters these past few days. If Starmer is not prepared to offer help or hope to the people the Labour were created to represent and only take advice from the Murdochs/Spectator/Davos types he's going to be left with no leeway at all.

[Section_31]

15 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

How can they not get on the front foot over the economy?

"Poverty is through the roof in a rich country. Even people in work are struggling to pay the rent, pay the bills, feed their kids and heat their homes. That's because 13 years of these cunts have fucked everything up. Vote for us and we'll do something different."

 

Come out swinging, you shithouse!

 

It's the same spiel as Cameron and truss came out with. 

 

We can't fix our problems without growing the economy.

 

The economy doesn't need growing it needs rebalancing. 

 

It's all going very Hilary Clinton this shit. They're leaving a gaping hole once again for the far right.

[Gnasher]

15 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

It's the same spiel as Cameron and truss came out with. 

 

We can't fix our problems without growing the economy.

 

The economy doesn't need growing it needs rebalancing. 

 

It's all going very Hilary Clinton this shit. They're leaving a gaping hole once again for the far right.

 

Your last sentence is my main worry (although I agree with the others) we've seen it across Europe. If people feel they have no-one to speak for them it can turn toxic very quickly.

[Arniepie]

28 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

He wasn't being given a lot of leeway from Susie Reed this morning. Their have been three negative articles on him by previous supporters these past few days. If Starmer is not prepared to offer help or hope to the people the Labour were created to represent and only take advice from the Murdochs/Spectator/Davos types he's going to be left with no leeway at all.

more in the sense that he knows most labour supporters,will still vote labour,even if they are not particually impressed,because the alternative is much worse.  

[Gnasher]

Here's a bit of Reeds interview with Yvette Cooper this morning. Unfortunately for Cooper it didn't get any easier, Reed was just warming up. 

 

 

 

As for Starmer, it's every weekend he takes a lurch to the right and ditches another pledge. Last week it was the environment the week before something else. This 'i kissed a tory and we're all Tories now' speil is relentless. He was praising Margaret Thatcher the week before that. Between him Reeves and Streeting it's non stop. 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

10 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

more in the sense that he knows most labour supporters,will still vote labour,even if they are not particually impressed,because the alternative is much worse.  

 

The alternative is begining to look very much the same. 

[Arniepie]

16 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

The alternative is begining to look very much the same. 

not a chance,

another 5 years of these cunts doesnt bear thinking about.

it will be like Children of men.

[ZonkoVille77]

On 19/04/2020 at 19:29, Kevin D said:

The over/under is 250 pages.

 

Triple this?

[Gnasher]

Of the families affected more than half are in work. So the rhetoric of being on the side of hard working families doesn't stand here.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/06/more-than-1m-children-growing-up-in-poverty-under-two-child-benefits-limit?s=09

 

 

Here's Starmer a few years ago. "Shocking". Jonathan Ashworth called it "heinous" only last month.

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The Mayor of Tyneside, having been told he won't be reselected, has left and will continue to serve and then stand as an independent.

 

Starmer's divisive factionalism is the best hope the Tories have got.