Coronavirus

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

 

[Red Phoenix]

Sultan Erdogan resisting a lockdown in Turkey, surprise.

 

Quote

Turkey has refrained from enforcing a full lockdown to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus despite the health minister’s recommendation, because of resistance from President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, columnist Murat Yetkin said on his blog on Tuesday.

Since Health Minister Fahrettin Koca acknowledged the first COVID-19 diagnosis in Turkey on March 11, the rate of new diagnoses is among the highest in the world, an Oxford University report said.

Turkey has taken measures against the virus, closing businesses and venues, halting flights from dozens of countries and enforcing a curfew on elderly and vulnerable people.

But while a growing number of countries are imposing comprehensive lockdowns, Turkey has held back from that action because “the Science Board (for the coronavirus) and health minister have been unable to convince Erdoğan,” Yetkin said.

 

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-coronavirus/turkeys-erdogan-opposes-last-resort-coronavirus-lockdown-columnists

[Moo]

33 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I have amended it, that much is obvious, because the number of flu deaths was lower than that.

 

Flu killed 28,330 people in the 2014/15 period in England and Wales. Time will tell how the current outbreak compares to that. And I won't be engaging with any more trolling until such a time as we are able to make that comparison.

I don't know the history of the argument, but it won't be a fair comparison as there's a vaccine for flu and the country doesn't go in to lockdown every flu season.  The two situations are barely comparable. 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Moo said:

I don't know the history of the argument, but it won't be a fair comparison as there's a vaccine for flu and the country doesn't go in to lockdown every flu season.  The two situations are barely comparable. 

Troll. 

[manwiththestick]

Michael Rapaport going on one..

 

 

 

And another..

 

 

Just showed the last one to the wife, she said "I thought he was Australian, he sounds it on The Last Leg"

 

[aRdja]

I’m just intrigued by this “herd immunity” that the UK largely abandoned. Do you think they should’ve stuck with it @Strontium Dog™? Directing the question your way because of your degree in Ecology. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The favela gangs of Rio have announced a lockdown from 8pm tonight (their time) saying that if the government won't act then "organised crime" will. 

 

We should get Stephen French patrolling the streets of L8. You get me, Russ? 

[Davelfc]

 

 

 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

On 24/03/2020 at 00:38, Strontium Dog™ said:

Since I saw the pictures of the gleaming Venice canals stuffed with fish, dolphins in Sardinia, and given the massive reduction in air pollution now that almost nobody is flying and very few people are travelling anywhere, I've been wondering why, in the mad panic about virus deaths, nobody has been factoring in the concomitant improvement in environmental conditions and the effect that will have on human health.

 

Well, it turns out some people have been doing those calculations, and:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/17/air-pollution-likely-to-increase-coronavirus-death-rate-warn-experts

 

 

Obviously it's too soon for a Coronavirus Positivity Thread, but it's surely encouraging that, even while the virus is taking its toll, there will be considerable human health gains too.

As an economist, you should be all over these lads:

https://overcast.fm/+WaLH64soU

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Get the temporary UBI rolled out (thread) 

 

 

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

Probably paying for this woman's Leffe and Chocolates 

 

 

I thought that was a joke. She really is the Belgian Health Minister.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The favela gangs of Rio have announced a lockdown from 8pm tonight (their time) saying that if the government won't act then "organised crime" will. 

 

We should get Stephen French patrolling the streets of L8. You get me, Russ? 

"where you going lad?"

 

 

"I think you better get home"

 

 

"Im everywhere"

 

 

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

15 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The favela gangs of Rio have announced a lockdown from 8pm tonight (their time) saying that if the government won't act then "organised crime" will. 

 

We should get Stephen French patrolling the streets of L8. You get me, Russ? 

Don't know if this is legit or not.

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/GzvppXc

 

 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Some of this will obviously not apply back home, however worth passing on as it comes from my mates missus who is a nurse in a Brisbane hozzy, and comes from an internal email to staff at RBH:

 

Virus Detection:

The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough.
The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days.
The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days.
Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately.

Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

Prevention:
The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest.
Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes.

Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous.

For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you.
The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life.
If an infected person sneezes near us, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you.
When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel
The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die.
The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present.
Washing your hands is essential.
The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them.
You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs.
Disinfect things touched often: cellphone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc

[Elite]

18 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

"where you going lad?"

 

 

"I think you better get home"

 

 

"Im everywhere"

 

 

 

 

"Get home before I summon the demon that will rattle your cage, luv"

[Harry Squatter]

1 hour ago, Elite said:

More chins than the Chinese yellow pages.

The Bulgin' Minister for health

[cloggypop]

7 minutes ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Some of this will obviously not apply back home, however worth passing on as it comes from my mates missus who is a nurse in a Brisbane hozzy, and comes from an internal email to staff at RBH:

 

Virus Detection:

The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough.
The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days.
The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days.
Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately.

Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

Prevention:
The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest.
Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes.

Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous.

For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you.
The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life.
If an infected person sneezes near us, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you.
When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel
The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die.
The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present.
Washing your hands is essential.
The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them.
You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs.
Disinfect things touched often: cellphone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc

https://www.thatsnonsense.com/list-of-coronavirus-facts-from-internal-email-at-st-georges-hospital-fact-check/

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

8 minutes ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Some of this will obviously not apply back home, however worth passing on as it comes from my mates missus who is a nurse in a Brisbane hozzy, and comes from an internal email to staff at RBH:

 

Virus Detection:

The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough.
The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days.
The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days.
Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately.

Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

Prevention:
The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest.
Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes.

Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous.

For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you.
The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life.
If an infected person sneezes near us, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you.
When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel
The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die.
The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present.
Washing your hands is essential.
The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them.
You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs.
Disinfect things touched often: cellphone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc

I think the majority of that has been debunked. 

[Mudface]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

https://www.thatsnonsense.com/list-of-coronavirus-facts-from-internal-email-at-st-georges-hospital-fact-check/

*hurriedly spits out the hydrogen peroxide*

[Oh Buoy]

9 minutes ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

Some of this will obviously not apply back home, however worth passing on as it comes from my mates missus who is a nurse in a Brisbane hozzy, and comes from an internal email to staff at RBH:

 

Virus Detection:

The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough.
The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days.
The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days.
Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately.

Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

Prevention:
The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest.
Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes.

Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous.

For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you.
The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life.
If an infected person sneezes near us, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you.
When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel
The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die.
The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present.
Washing your hands is essential.
The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them.
You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs.
Disinfect things touched often: cellphone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc

 

Imagine that.

 

 

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

Coronavirus: No extra help for airlines, chancellor says

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52027342

[TheHowieLama]

"What a great timeline to be alive."

 

[Moo]

1 minute ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

Coronavirus: No extra help for airlines, chancellor says

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52027342

I read that before. 

They should be telling their owners to bail them out, and if they don't want to do that in order to protect jobs and the industry we'll buy your planes and your slots and nationalise them. 

[Strontium]

58 minutes ago, Moo said:

I don't know the history of the argument, but it won't be a fair comparison as there's a vaccine for flu and the country doesn't go in to lockdown every flu season.  The two situations are barely comparable. 

 

A death is a death. Kind of easy to compare causes of death, which is why extensive statistics on causes of death are produced.