Labour Leadership Contest

[Red_or_Dead]

I think whoever wins the leadership election won't be fighting the 2020 General Election.  Burnham and Cooper have got patsy written all over them.  Corbyn will cause a massive split in the party if elected.  The whole fucking thing is a shambles.

[dennis tooth]

Corbyns the special prize to lure gamblers to put pennies in the machine, the arm might brush him but hes nailed to the floor, the games rigged.

 

Hes got more chance of surviving climbing in the large hadron collider and being hurtled round.

[Jairzinho]

 

 

What world do we live in when the man who claims the least in expenses each year, one year only claiming under £10 for an ink cartridge, is so derided, and where that level of principle and ethics leads to being called "bonkers" to his face on the BBC by that fucking goblin Andrew Marr?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7MT0AVR2kI

 

I'd pay a lot more than £3 for the opportunity to beat Andrew Marr to death.

[TheBitch]

Corbyn speaking on Andrew Marr earlier.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02y2ffn

 

Edit: Beaten by the man wanting to beat Marr.

[Section_31]

Marr made more sense when he had his grand mal.

[Boss]

As the snake pops his head up and spits poison at Corbyn - a man who opposed his disgusting and disastrous attack on Iraq - a timely reminder of what someone who was given the same "loony left" treatment over many years had to say in advance of it:

 

 

Remember who you are, Labour.  And who you should be.

 

* NB: I'm not suggesting for a second he was the only person of such views, or who spoke up in parliament, before the party political one-umanship bullshit cranks into action.  This is about the Labour party, and who they are, and how Corbyn is being presented; often by snides who should remember how correct the likes of him were on crucial milestones in recent history where they were abjectly wrong, continue to be wrong, profit obscenely from having been wrong, refuse to concede how they went about covering up being wrong, and still lie about it all to this day.

 

What world do we live in when the man who claims the least in expenses each year, one year only claiming under £10 for an ink cartridge, is so derided, and where that level of principle and ethics leads to being called "bonkers" to his face on the BBC by that fucking goblin Andrew Marr?

 

He said a beautiful line about Thatcherite Britain "they measure the price of everything but the value of nothing", if there was ever a line that summed up the time so pertinently, and continues to do so to this day, it's that.

[Section_31]

Ed Miliband's former spin doctor on Sky News telling the party where it's going wrong. Er yeah, we'll call you.

[dennis tooth]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11706543/Lord-Janners-prosecution-has-nothing-to-do-with-justice.html

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11706093/Lord-Janner-is-a-helpless-senile-man-who-should-not-be-prosecuted.html

 

The telegraph is going all out for peadophiles rights.

[Stu Monty]

It's funny watching someone like Marr talk about what people thought during the election process whilst at the very same time continuing to perpetuate the subtle misinformation and spin that led them there. He's a bright man. He chooses his words and shapes the conversation in a very deliberate manner to establish the oddness and otherlyness of very sensible, widely supported policy.

 

Still. Good that he's still objective after the Tories launching his book at No 10.

 

If people didn't think Labour offered a viable economic plan then they need educating, not placating.

 

They bought an inferior product. Someone needs to make the effort to make sure they know that, and don't do it again.

[dennis tooth]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33667676

 

"The crossbench peer had been responsible for enforcing standards in the Upper House"

[dennis tooth]

It's funny watching someone like Marr talk about what people thought during the election process whilst at the very same time continuing to perpetuate the subtle misinformation and spin that led them there. He's a bright man. He chooses his words and shapes the conversation in a very deliberate manner to establish the oddness and otherlyness of very sensible, widely supported policy.

Still. Good that he's still objective after the Tories launching his book at No 10.

If people didn't think Labour offered a viable economic plan then they need educating, not placating.

They bought an inferior product. Someone needs to make the effort to make sure they know that, and don't do it again.

Oh. It dont matter that its credible dye think the imf world bank etc would sit back and let him? Ehm amnesia

[Stickman]

He's swimming against such a tide of right wing bullshit it may be for the best.

It's actually quite good to see all these people in the media being so callous and spiteful in their attacks on Corbyn are they actually scared that if he did manage to become leader and then the Tory cuts really start to bite which they know they will, could there be a major uprising in support for this kind of Labour Party?

Like what happened in Scotland with the SNP ?

[Strontium]

I want my fucking three quid back if he quits.

Accidental negative, I meant to rep but fat fingers.

[dennis tooth]

Yeah im sure theyre scared of a few molotov throwers and marchers with all their weaponry.

[Anubis]

I thought Corbyn handled Marr very well.

[Section_31]

I thought Corbyn handled Marr very well.

The best way to handle marr is hit him with some flash photography.

[Hand Shandy]

Hahahaha! I really shouldn't laugh at that, but that was very good.

[Anubis]

Evil. But funny.

[Anubis]

I'm just wondering when Corbyn will be summoned to a Mccarthy style committee hearing.

 

"Mr Corbyn, are you, or have you ever been a member of a socialist party?"

[VladimirIlyich]

https-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7MT0AVR2kI

 

I'd pay a lot more than £3 for the opportunity to beat Andrew Marr to death.

The exact way a Labour Party Leader should think and speak. He would get my vote,no problem.

What a prick that Marr is,left wing this left wing that,Communist this Communist that. Fuck off you little Spitting Image dummy Tory twat.

[dennis tooth]

bunch o' hero worshippers 

[Hades]

 

Custard Creams are a challenging dunk. Worthwhile practising and persisting with those mutherfuckers.

 

You have got to be joking. Nothing worse than slimy, tea-covered cream. 

[Section_31]

 

 

 

 

 

A Nobel prize-winning economist has said it is unsurprising that an anti-austerity figure such as Jeremy Corbyn has emerged as a contender for the Labour leadership.

 

 

Speaking in London on Sunday, Joseph Stiglitz warned that policies from centre-left governments such as Tony Blair’s had undermined the middle-ground message, partly by entrenching wealth for the very few.

Asked about the emergence of Corbyn against more moderate candidates, Stiglitz said young people were the most likely supporters as they felt badly let down by more mainstream politics.

“I am not surprised at all that there is a demand for a strong anti-austerity movement around increased concern about inequality. The promises of NewLabour in the UK and of the Clintonites in the US have been a disappointment,” said the former World Bank economist who is a professor at Columbia University in the US.

 

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“Unfortunately the centre-left parties have wimped out. They have joined in saying: ‘Oh yes, we have to have a kinder version of austerity, a milder version of austerity.’ But one of the disappointments of the eurozone, and Europemore broadly, is that you have these elections, these centre-left parties get elected and they have to cave into Germany and so they then do a rhetoric that is gentler but the outcome is not much gentler.”

Stiglitz said in the US research showed that all the economic gains since the early 1980s had gone to the top 10%. “The bottom 90% of the economy has seen stagnation for a third of a century and similar trends – not as bad – are at play elsewhere.

“It’s just very hard to say these centre-left parties – with emphasis on ‘centre’ – have been able to deliver for most people. Their economic models have not delivered and their message is not working. So to me it’s not a surprise that you have seen, say in the United States, which obviously I know better, that [anti-austerity] progressives are getting a much stronger voice in the Democratic party.”

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 Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz leaves the Greek prime minister’s office after a meeting with the finance minister, Euclid Tsakalotos. Photograph: Orestis Panagiotou/EPA

Stiglitz argued that the crisis triggered in the eurozone by what he saw as the wrong-headed bullying of Greece to accept a deal that only offered “depression without end” was in danger of feeding anti-EU sentiment in Britain’s forthcoming referendum on EU membership.

“The UK made one very good decision [which] was not to join the euro. It may have made it for the wrong reason but it was still the right decision and you should count your blessings,” he said at a meeting organised by his publishers in central London.

Stiglitz said the whole eurozone currency model had not been a success and he did not think of anything that could have been more divisive for the European Union than the handling of the Greek debt crisis.

“You feel the antipathy between the Germans and the Greeks and elsewhere … there are many people who are hypothesising that it will play a role in the UK referendum, that people will say: ‘Who would want to be a member of that [European Union] club?’” he told an audience at the Dover Street Arts Club.

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Stiglitz said the best way to save the European political project was “to let the euro go … Not only has there been evidence of a lack of solidarity, there is even a misunderstanding of what solidarity is, and you can’t have a group of countries with the same economic arrangements without some degree of solidarity.”

The latest Greek debt deal and the austerity policies to be imposed on Greece by the European leaders and the International Monetary Fund were bound to fail, he said.

“Both the young and the old are being very adversely affected by the troika [lenders] programme and yet people at the negotiating table do not include either the very young people or the very old people. There is a sense that the negotiators are not hearing the voice of some of the people who are being affected strongly.

“Talking about the broader impact on the UK and elsewhere, it is very clear outside Germany that the view that austerity is bad is very widespread. I think it is the correct view. Its obviously going to lead to a stronger sentiment, people saying we have to fight austerity.”

 

[Gnasher]

Yeah im sure theyre scared of a few molotov throwers and marchers with all their weaponry.

Oh i dunno. The greatest day in recent British history

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5o98_hia8tA

[Stu Monty]

Always amazes me how shite most "rioters" are. Can never organise their greater numbers properly.