Labour Leadership Contest

[TheBitch]

Got a party Saturday but debating whether to get ready early and go down

Report back, Tyler. I'm in fucking work.

[Jairzinho]

Corbyn is speaking at the Adelphi Hotel on Saturday. Doors open 6pm for a 7pm start. Entry is free. Just turn up.

 

The TUC have organised it. According to the Guardian they have an overspill room ready as they're expecting much interest.

 

He did one last night in London which was streamed (by RT, I think), so for people who can't go they can probably watch it live on Youtube.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Corbyn is speaking at the Adelphi Hotel on Saturday. Doors open 6pm for a 7pm start. Entry is free. Just turn up.

 

The TUC have organised it. According to the Guardian they have an overspill room ready as they're expecting much interest.

Liverpool Pride, 12.00 St George's Hall on Saturday.

Corbyn at the Adelphi, 7.00pm at the Adelphi on Saturday.

UAF promoting unity event against the "White Man March" 12.30, Bold Street, Sunday.

 

This could be the most right-on weekend ever.

[Champ]

Corbyn is speaking at the Adelphi Hotel on Saturday. Doors open 6pm for a 7pm start. Entry is free. Just turn up.

 

The TUC have organised it. According to the Guardian they have an overspill room ready as they're expecting much interest.

 

Heads up rep

[Tyler Durden]

Report back, Tyler. I'm in fucking work.

Blast! The missus has just said we are meeting the other couples at 7 before going the party at 8, wonder if I can hire a double

[Jairzinho]

Is it this sort of party?

 

[Anubis]

Sorry, this wouldn't let me cut and paste. McTernan is one horrible little twat. Openly admits that he and his right-of-centre chums should ignore Labour voters and the membership.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/john-mcternan-on-labour-leader-who-cares-about-the-grassroots/

[Tyler Durden]

Is it this sort of party?

 

With a bit of luck yes !

[Jairzinho]

Sorry, this wouldn't let me cut and paste. McTernan is one horrible little twat. Openly admits that he and his right-of-centre chums should ignore Labour voters and the membership.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/john-mcternan-on-labour-leader-who-cares-about-the-grassroots/

 

He's a shit, unfunny, Jamie McDonald.

[Creator Supreme]

Sorry, this wouldn't let me cut and paste. McTernan is one horrible little twat. Openly admits that he and his right-of-centre chums should ignore Labour voters and the membership.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/john-mcternan-on-labour-leader-who-cares-about-the-grassroots/

If that happens it's time for the Labour party to die, and let's hope it takes that arrogant little prick with it!

[Jairzinho]

He's not only a fucking cunt but he's actually utterly useless as well. Every campaign he goes near fails.

[Stu Monty]

Despite the predictions of electoral oblivion I think it really is time to risk dying on your feet instead of living on your knees.

 

The rapidly advandancing slide to the right as politics follows opinion that follows the shite information it's given by the press only leads one way.

 

It's time to get out there and fight the culture war. It's time to point out the genuine benefits to most Tory voters, UKIP voters and non-voters of proper social democracy that runs the country for the benefit of the majority.

 

It'll be all about the sell though. Don't even bother with the word socialism anymore, ever, just keep banging on about mainstream, run of the mill social democracy and point out how extreme the Tory policy is.

 

If and when the new cuts really bite, and services go to shit, and Cameron is coasting whilst his team stab the fuck out of each other...there'll be a chance. But it'll need smarts. Lots of it.

[Dr Nowt]

Aye, socialism is the long since toxified term used by the vested interests, to make significant numbers of the electorate forget they're actually in favour of quite of lot of it's policies when polled.

 

Evil genius, in it's own way.

[Chairman Meow]

Sorry, this wouldn't let me cut and paste. McTernan is one horrible little twat. Openly admits that he and his right-of-centre chums should ignore Labour voters and the membership.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/john-mcternan-on-labour-leader-who-cares-about-the-grassroots/

 

From that article 

 

 

But what if the party’s grassroots were unhappy at this? McTernan doesn’t think they matter:

‘Yeah but who cares about the grassroots?

The leader is one who determines the saleability of the Labour party. Nobody is voting for Tumbleweed CLP. They are all voting for the leader, they are voting for a potential Prime Minister and a leader who can’t control the party, can’t control conference isn’t fit to run the party yet alone the country, but obviously if you get a strong leader, it doesn’t really matter what the grassroots say.

 

Pretty much everything that is wrong with politics in one sentence. 

[Section_31]

The nature of the media was encapsulated  this morning by Ranvia Singh on GMTV:

 

"Migrants stormed the channel tunnel again last night, we asked UKIP leader Nigel Farage what he thinks". 

 

Know your enemy. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

All the unions supporting Corbyn. Labour is fucked isn't it, surely it has to split off into factions after this.

[Section_31]

All the unions supporting Corbyn. Labour is fucked isn't it, surely it has to split off into factions after this.

 

What would the factions be though? Surely Corybyn's Labour 'is' Labour, and the others could just as easily join the Tories or Lib Dems? 

[Bobby Hundreds]

What would the factions be though? Surely Corybyn's Labour 'is' Labour, and the others could just as easily join the Tories or Lib Dems? 

 

It could go anyway really but this broad church stuff is bollocks if one side of the party represents every interest the other side detests. It's two opposing sides, I'd support Corbyn even though I don't believe he could win an election, mostly because I think we need a party to at least try and pull politics back to the left a bit, Milliband sat on the fence far too long and was too scared to be principled incase focus groups didn't like it. Corbyn doesn't give a shit, it would be a breath of fresh air just to witness it even if Labour fail spectacularly. Burnham, Cooper, Kendell what's the point. I don't give a shit about Labour being electable in 5 years, I want at least the next few years having somebody call Cameron, Osbourne and IDS a shower of cunts. A few years where a leader of a party just answers the fucking question with a straight answer.

[Hermes]

Socialism is dead so let's call it something else and hope nobody notices.

 

Pythonesque.

[Strontium]

What would the factions be though? Surely Corybyn's Labour 'is' Labour, and the others could just as easily join the Tories or Lib Dems?

 

Amidst all the talk over the coalition government, most people overlooked the fact that parties themselves, especially the larger parties, are essentially coalitions. You would be hard pressed to argue that the ideological gap between a Ken Clarke and Simon Hughes is any larger than that between Corbyn and Mandelson, yet the latter avoids the same kind of scrutiny given to the former, because they nominally belong to the same party. These sometimes uncomfortable broad churches are made necessary by an electoral system that penalises anyone outside the two largest parties.

[Anubis]

Socialism is dead so let's call it something else and hope nobody notices.

 

Pythonesque.

Yawn.

[Red Phoenix]

Socialism is dead so let's call it something else and hope nobody notices.

 

Pythonesque.

 

No more Pythonesque than the United Corporations of America pretending to spread "democracy" around the world, but shitting themselves at the idea of socialism breaking out, which is partly, or even mainly, why we have these problems in the first place.

[Anubis]

Don't get sucked in RP. He's here to troll.

[Red Phoenix]

If it helps you Hermes : socialism isn't actually dead and it probably never will be.

 

Don't get sucked in RP. He's here to troll.

Thanks, just thought I'd humour him for a post or two. Am done now.

[ZonkoVille77]

Don't get sucked in RP. He's a diseased ridden cesspit of a human.

Harsh, but probably fair all things considered.