Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[AngryOfTuebrook]

9 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Aye ok. Heres Numeros excitable mate, he wants to tell you about your mates..

 

 

 

I don't think James O'Brien knows any of my mates.

 

Why are you obsessively banging on about the fact that the EU fucked up the other day, when nobody- not even the EU - claims that they didn't?  Who do you imagine you're arguing with?  What point do you imagine you're making?

[No2]

The EU fucked up from an aesthetics point of view with the Article 16 shenanigans. What they replaced it with is essentially the same thing. The idea was to stop the UK government bringing in vaccines from the EU through N Ireland onto mainland Britain and the new arrangement will do exactly that.

 

Their actions were thoughtless, they weren't reckless nor did they threaten peace. The side that hate the EU would welcome a border and the side that don't want a border voted to remain in the EU.

[Gnasher]

27 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I don't think James O'Brien knows any of my mates.

 

Why are you obsessively banging on about the fact that the EU fucked up the other day, when nobody- not even the EU - claims that they didn't?  Who do you imagine you're arguing with?  What point do you imagine you're making?

It raises a few issues. The obvious being the fundamental structure of the eu is flawed. Remember I used to send links about Kinnock saying Baroness Warsi should be eu president?  Well Von der Lyen is proving the equivalent, and its dangerous.

 

 1 She won a vote where she was the only candidate. .2 . Shes from the aristocracy so hardly in touch with the people  3. She's a center right politician. 4  She's incompetent. 5. Unless she resigns shes almost impossible to get rid of. 6. Shes a cunt.

 

It seems on every major issue the EU is found wanting, from Vaccinations to climate change.

 

Heres a fair article from the New York Times.. I think she should resign, I think if she stays the eu will lose some of its authority.

 

 

[Gnasher]

She should be toast 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

LATEST IN BREXIT: Top tale from Politics Home’s Adam Payne: The EU has told the British shellfish industry the ban on mussels, cockles, oysters, clams and scallops is indefinite, after DEFRA said it was only until the spring. Labour and the Lib Dems are demanding DEFRA explain how they messed up.

[Gnasher]

Ouch... I suggest Angry and his mates watch these truth bombs whilst gulping down a large whisky 

 

 

 

[YorkshireRed]

9 hours ago, Gnasher said:

It raises a few issues. The obvious being the fundamental structure of the eu is flawed. Remember I used to send links about Kinnock saying Baroness Warsi should be eu president?  Well Von der Lyen is proving the equivalent, and its dangerous.

 

 1 She won a vote where she was the only candidate. .2 . Shes from the aristocracy so hardly in touch with the people  3. She's a center right politician. 4  She's incompetent. 5. Unless she resigns shes almost impossible to get rid of. 6. Shes a cunt.

 

It seems on every major issue the EU is found wanting, from Vaccinations to climate change.

 

Heres a fair article from the New York Times.. I think she should resign, I think if she stays the eu will lose some of its authority.

 

 

7. GILF 

[skend04]

25 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Ouch... I suggest Angry and his mates watch these truth bombs whilst gulping down a large whisky 

 

 

 

Who the fuck are you arguing with?

You seem to have created a scenario in your own head where you believe everyone who voted remain sees nothing wrong in the EUs handling of the vaccine roll out. You're weird man.

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

7. GILF 

Erm I'm not sure, shes got a bit of Thatcher about her which puts me off.

[YorkshireRed]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Erm I'm not sure, shes got a bit of Thatcher about her which puts me off.

Beggars can’t be choosers. In my case I’d be like a rat up a drainpipe. 
 

Probably wouldn’t shag Thatcher though. Although there might be more warmth to her now than there was when she existed in the land of the living. 

[Rushies tash]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

LATEST IN BREXIT: Top tale from Politics Home’s Adam Payne: The EU has told the British shellfish industry the ban on mussels, cockles, oysters, clams and scallops is indefinite, after DEFRA said it was only until the spring. Labour and the Lib Dems are demanding DEFRA explain how they messed up.

Turns out this particular EU policy has always been in place for non-member states, of which, we are now one:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-shellfish-eu-oysters-cockles-b1796002.html

 

[Bruce Spanner]

5 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

Turns out this particular EU policy has always been in place for non-member states, of which, we are now one:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-shellfish-eu-oysters-cockles-b1796002.html

 

 

Yeah, just read that.

 

'World beating'

[Bruce Spanner]

'I notice with this EU border row our press has conveniently forgotten that the UK threatened to invoke article 16 last month. or that Gove was adamant that no doses of the vaccine would be going from the UK to Europe until the UK had had its fill. In neither of these cases has the UK apologized and yet scream murder when the EU threaten to do the same thing they have already done. This collusion between Government and press is getting out of hand. The other thing I read today: British Loyalist extremists threatening British workers who work at the British border - BBC: "we have asked the EU for comment".'

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reminder-that-boris-johnson-threatened-to-trigger-article-16-two-weeks-ago/30/01/

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

'I notice with this EU border row our press has conveniently forgotten that the UK threatened to invoke article 16 last month. or that Gove was adamant that no doses of the vaccine would be going from the UK to Europe until the UK had had its fill. In neither of these cases has the UK apologized and yet scream murder when the EU threaten to do the same thing they have already done. This collusion between Government and press is getting out of hand. The other thing I read today: British Loyalist extremists threatening British workers who work at the British border - BBC: "we have asked the EU for comment".'

Our press? So it's just "our press"  You been smoking angel dust? The condemnation has been fucking world wide.There are articles from different countries in the last few pages. Even the archbishop of Canterbury tried to calm the waters. Canada, Korea and Japan expressed concern. There is an article from the New York Times on this very page.  There is also a write up by a German for the times on this page. 

 

Plus both Irish governments and Sinn Fein were aghast. You can pin a lot on the press but to try to pass this off as a bit of uk based biased reporting is bizarre.

 

[TheBitch]

2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

LATEST IN BREXIT: Top tale from Politics Home’s Adam Payne: The EU has told the British shellfish industry the ban on mussels, cockles, oysters, clams and scallops is indefinite, after DEFRA said it was only until the spring. Labour and the Lib Dems are demanding DEFRA explain how they messed up.

@Liverpool lad

[Bruce Spanner]

Gnasher I can't read and understand things for you, I'm sorry, it's just not possible.

 

Go back, re-read, guide your finger along so you don't miss words out.

 

It says that the UK media has ignored it's own governements threats to invoke article 16 two weeks earlier than the point you currently have a deranged hard on for, at no point is there an insinuation that the EU did not fuck it up, it's stating that the UK governemnt, and media, have some fucking brass neck to try and score political points when they have intimimated they would do the very same. No mention of anything else, no reference to the EU from the world media, no lack of condemntaion for the EU. I have no idea how you can get it so wrong consistently.

 

It's genuinely baffeling how bad your wilful disregard for anything which challenges your warped version of truth is. Anything is recieved and rejected without critical resolve or attempt at understanding.

 

I meant what I said yesterday, I can't engage with you anymore it is utterly fucking pointless.

 

I have never used the ignore function on here before, but today I am as I can't stand to see you spam the shit out of threads with nonsense, argue in circles, misread constantly and otherwise stem debate with wilful ignorance and stupidity.

[Gnasher]

The uk press did not ignore Johnsons bluster it was a different scenario and under different circumstances. The reaction from the Irish Government's and Sinn Fein should give you and the eu lickklespits who repped your stupid post some idea on the difference in gravity between the two situations, but like yourself their blind devotion to the eu makes for blind stupidity.

 

Edit. I suppose the reason the worlds media gave greater coverage to this action by the eu compared to Johnsons bollocks is they are all biased Brexiteers. That must include the Irish government and Sinn Fein.

 

[Rushies tash]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

The uk press did not ignore Johnsons bluster it was a different scenario and under different circumstances. The reaction from the Irish Government's and Sinn Fein should give you and the eu lickklespits who repped your stupid post some idea on the difference in gravity between the two situations, but like yourself their blind devotion to the eu makes for blind stupidity.

 

 

Mate, I respect that you have a different opinion to me and I admire your conviction in arguing your point, but I'm fucked if I'm going to be called a 'lickspittle'. Could you wind in the name calling please?

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

Mate, I respect that you have a different opinion to me and I admire your conviction in arguing your point, but I'm fucked if I'm going to be called a 'lickspittle'. Could you wind in the name calling please?

Ok I apologise. Sorry. 

[Gnasher]

A word to the open minded, dont listen to Spanners conspiracy bollocks.

 

I'm as big a critic of our media than anyone but their are good reasons why the worlds press and Irish leaders have given an awful lot more airspace to the actions of the eu compared to the Johnson bluster and the reasons are not as Skippy implies that they are biased Brexiteers or are anti EU.

 

Gerry Adam's is not anti EU, The Irish PM is not anti eu, the German newspapers are not anti EU. The BBC is not biased against the EU. It's a fucking nonsense crackpot theory and it's a line trotted out by Skippy Spanner  to shelter the magnitude of EU incompetence.

[skend04]

How do you put people on ignore again?

Gnasher's going to join Jermaine Pennant  in an exclusive group of 2.

[Bruce Spanner]

6 minutes ago, skend04 said:

How do you put people on ignore again?

Gnasher's going to join Jermaine Pennant  in an exclusive group of 2.

 

Click Name...

 

 

Click ignored users.

 

 

Type in name and click all content.

 

I feel better already.

[SasaS]

12 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

A word to the open minded, dont listen to Spanners conspiracy bollocks.

 

I'm as big a critic of our media than anyone but their are good reasons why the worlds press and Irish leaders have given an awful lot more airspace to the actions of the eu compared to the Johnson bluster and the reasons are not as Skippy implies that they are biased Brexiteers or are anti EU.

 

Gerry Adam's is not anti EU, The Irish PM is not anti eu, the German newspapers are not anti EU. The BBC is not biased against the EU. It's a fucking nonsense crackpot theory and it's a line trotted out by Skippy Spanner  to shelter the magnitude of EU incompetence.

It is part of the vaccine supplies row between the EU, the suppliers not honoring contracts and by association, with  UK, which is acting as if AZ vaccine production is UK's national vaccine production programme with proprietary rights (which it may be, I don't know, it would probably have been news to the EU in August, when they signed a contract and, I think, paid for some of it in advance). That's the only reason for the media attention. Outside Ireland and UK, nobody cares about Article 16.

[skend04]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Click Name...

 

 

Click ignored users.

 

 

Type in name and click all content.

 

I feel better already.

Sweet.

[Bruce Spanner]

13 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Sweet.

Bloke I met years ago, when I was a youngster first going to pubs, gave me some solid advice.

 

He said if the first person you meet of a day is a cunt, it’s unfortunate, but you shouldn’t let it ruin your day. If the second person you come across is a cunt then that’s going to ruin your day, but if the third person you happen across you think is a cunt then it’s probably actually you that’s the cunt.

 

Always stuck with me.