Do You Go To Games?

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P.S regular basis is far more games than you go to.

 

I could only dream about going on a regular basis, but I`m happy with the games I`m able to get, but to be honest if I went 5 more or 5 less every season I doubt I would feel my opinion had any more or less credibility to it because of that.

[Tyler Durden]

Some people (i.e me) can't viably get to all the games, doesn't make me a worse supporter than some scally who manages to scab tickets to every game to shout abuse at the players.

 

Yea because that's alls that follows us isn't it, scabby scallys who shout abuse at the players, fuck off.

I'm not saying you don't support the team but to say you do so more then someone who goes to every game is bollocks.

[moof]

Yea because that's alls that follows us isn't it, scabby scallys who shout abuse at the players, fuck off.

I'm not saying you don't support the team but to say you do so more then someone who goes to every game is bollocks.

 

I was speaking hypothetically. I don't think anyone is saying that people who go to less games are better supporters than people who go to every game. I was only saying you're not automatically less important as a supporter just because you can't get to every game.

[Guest ShoePiss]

I could only dream about going on a regular basis, but I`m happy with the games I`m able to get, but to be honest if I went 5 more or 5 less every season I doubt I would feel my opinion had any more or less credibility to it because of that.

 

Well 5 more still wouldn't be regular.

 

There's a reason scouts, coaches and managers go to watch the opposition players in person. It isn't for the atmosphere, pies or piss up.

 

I think we're in agreement anyway, a person's understanding of the game is far more important than whether they were at the game or watching on telly. There's plenty of tools at the game that spend half their time looking at their phone, they've also come in late, gone for a pie before half time and left early to beat the crowds.

[Tyler Durden]

I was speaking hypothetically. I don't think anyone is saying that people who go to less games are better supporters than people who go to every game. I was only saying you're not automatically less important as a supporter just because you can't get to every game.

 

And nowhere did I try to suggest people who don't go to every game arnt proper supporters, I don't myself. But people who do go to all games are better supporters then those who don't, regardless of where your from or your circumstances.

This just went back to someone saying as much earlier on.

[moof]

And nowhere did I try to suggest people who don't go to every game arnt proper supporters, I don't myself. But people who do go to all games are better supporters then those who don't, regardless of where your from or your circumstances.

This just went back to someone saying as much earlier on.

 

I respectfully disagree. I don't think there are different levels of supporter (barring extreme cases), everyone supports the club in their own way and each way is as valid as the last. Imo.

[Tyler Durden]

Its always the people who live away from the club that have a complex about admitting that someone who goes to great lengths at personal and financial cost to travel to games is a better supporter then them. Supporting the club is supporting the team, you can only do that in person.

 

I don't think anyone would take anything away from supporters who are unable to get to games because of where they live etc, but I take exception to those people claiming they give tge same level of support when the clearly don't and can't.

[moof]

Its always the people who live away from the club that have a complex about admitting that someone who goes to great lengths at personal and financial cost to travel to games is a better supporter then them. Supporting the club is supporting the team, you can only do that in person.

 

I don't think anyone would take anything away from supporters who are unable to get to games because of where they live etc, but I take exception to those people claiming they give tge same level of support when the clearly don't and can't.

 

I think i missed about 10-15 games in total from the age of 10-18 and have been to at least 10-15 games a year since (barring a season when I was in NZ studying. I'm 28 btw). I travelled back for most home games during my uni years (swansea and London) which took a big effort considering I was a skint student at the time. My job and family situation dictates the fact that I can't get to more games these days, which is extremely disappointing because there's nothing I love more. So I resent that comment.

[Tyler Durden]

I think i missed about 10-15 games in total from the age of 10-18 and have been to at least 10-15 games a year since (barring a season when I was in NZ studying. I'm 28 btw). I travelled back for most home games during my uni years (swansea and London) which took a big effort considering I was a skint student at the time. My job and family situation dictates the fact that I can't get to more games these days, which is extremely disappointing because there's nothing I love more. So I resent that comment.

 

Exactly, so circumstances have now changed which mean you can't get to as many games, it doesn't mean you now don't exist as a fan but it does mean there are people who now do what you used to do, there is no shame in that, like I said earlier circumstance/location affect you supporting the team, but there are still people doing it week in week out. Anyway I've said all I'm going to say on this because it's getting nowhere.

[Guest LFD]

LFD got petty and I reacted.

 

I only said that I post 99% of the time on MF, so you might not know my opinions on Carroll and Adam - I have been very critical of them for a longtime and they aren't a scape goat for the Spurs reuslt, they were all poor.

 

You disagreed with one of my points and to try and belittle my opinion or justify yours - you asked me if I go to games. I go to games, not all, but a few a season and I don't see how it is relevent to me having an opinion on matches.

[Guest LFD]

but there are still people doing it week in week out.

 

Thousands of people want seaosn tickets (me included) but they can't get them.

 

But because I don't get to games regularly I don't give the same level of support? I think that is bollocks.

 

I contribute to pay the players / staff wages with merchandise, memberships etc. I am constantly on this site supporting the players / club, I go to games when I can.

 

I hate people who say they go to games are more supportive or have a more valid opinion. It is just 'super fan' bullshit!

 

Oh look at me, look at me - I'm a better fan than you!

 

Bullshit!

[Tyler Durden]

Thousands of people want seaosn tickets (me included) but they can't get them.

 

But because I don't get to games regularly I don't give the same level of support? I think that is bollocks.

 

I contribute to pay the players / staff wages with merchandise, memberships etc. I am constantly on this site supporting the players / club, I go to games when I can.

 

I hate people who say they go to games are more supportive or have a more valid opinion. It is just 'super fan' bullshit!

 

Oh look at me, look at me - I'm a better fan than you!

 

Bullshit!

 

Read my previous posts you total Gobshite, I've said people who go all the games are better supporters then me because I don't. I've been waiting 10 years for a season ticket, and fucking what? It doesn't mean you can't get there if you want to.

 

On this site supporting?? Ha ha ha.

 

Where have I mentioned anyone's opinion being less valid?? Read my posts before quoting me.

[Coro]

you might not know my opinions on Carroll and Adam - I have been very critical of them for a longtime

 

I am constantly on this site supporting the players / club

 

 

:lol:

 

Comedy gold.

[s(k)aturation]

scallys who shout abuse at the players

 

Plenty of abuse, both in anger and jest, was shouted at the players in my time on the Kop between 89-91.

 

Maybe that hasn't changed. But what has changed is the supporters seemed more unified then.

 

Well much more so than on this thread in any case!

[RedKnight]

I don't know what having, or not having, a season ticket has to do with it. You can still get tickets it just requires a lot more effort.

[razor]

Does the wall by the Sandon count?

 

I bet you're one of those who doesn't even pretend you've been in the pub and bought a pint. A plassie bag in one hand and a can of Tennants Super in the other.

 

That wall makes me shudder...

[silverlining]

I used to have a season ticket but gave it up when I went to University and then stayed down south.

 

I think I probably get to see Liverpool in person maybe two or three times a season. Usually away games, but try and get to Anfield at least once a season, ticket permitting.

[silverlining]

I used to have a season ticket but gave it up when I went to University and then stayed down south.

 

I think I probably get to see Liverpool in person maybe two or three times a season. Usually away games, but try and get to Anfield at least once a season, ticket permitting.

[JohnnyH]

I think getting a better viewpoint from the game very much depends on where you sit. I’ve found that when I’m kop or anny road end, or in an away end behind the goal, the match always looks very different to what I watch later that evening on tv. However, on the occasions I’ve been near the half way line and near the back looking down on the pitch I really do get a very strong appreciation for tactics and the movement of players. I love sitting there if I want to watch one player in particular, be it a new signing or a young player. But, for 99% of the time I am watching the ball anyway, so what you see on tv is what I see when at the game.

 

I remember last season watching a game from the Kop and then writing a small match review on here and getting quite a few comments back asking was I facing the right way. The forum Don, Mr Usher, told me to go and watch the replay on TV and come back then. I did, and it was a completely different game to what I’d seen from my spec behind the goal.

 

The most games I’ve gone to in a season is probably about 25. The least would be 1 home and about 4 away in the final full season of the H&G ownership when I just couldn’t face the place. This season I’ll probably go to about 10-15 depending on cup comps.

 

As for what makes someone a better fan? If you’ve got Liverpool in your heart and a loss like Spurs is still pissing you off now, then that’s good enough for me. But you also need to respect the city. I can never understand OOTers like me mouthing off that the city is shite or telling shit jokes about stealing hubcaps.

[silverlining]

'Wool rage'

 

Fantastic.

[Guest TK-421]

I have a question regarding this matter. Why do you need to attend "regularly" to be able to appreciate what the match going experience is all about?

[Delmar]

I don't really care about better fans or worse fans, it's irrelevant to me. I still think, though, that LFC is there first for the people of Liverpool, especially those that bother to turn up for the matches. It is Liverpool FC. Others may support it, have passionate opinions about it, that's all fine and nice, but the "ownership" cannot be there to the same extent.

 

And then, whose opinions about a match count more as far as football played goes? That would be very hard to judge. Football means so many different things to different people. There are some posters here who can analyze a match perfectly watching it on TV, some people watching it in the stadium who cannot understand what they've just seen. But both have had lots of emotions during the 2 hrs spent watching the match. There's not much point figuring out which emotions are more valid.

[brucespanner]

I don't really care about better fans or worse fans, it's irrelevant to me. I still think, though, that LFC is there first for the people of Liverpool, especially those that bother to turn up for the matches. It is Liverpool FC. Others may support it, have passionate opinions about it, that's all fine and nice, but the "ownership" cannot be there to the same extent.

 

I've stayed out of this because I think it's a futile argument, but here goes. I think the bolded part above only existed pre Shanks. When Shankly took over he didn't so much speak just to the people of Liverpool his words echoed throughout the whole land, he made people sit up and take notice, he presented a collective front, behind socialism ideals maybe, that people from all corners of the land could identify with. You wanted to be part of what was happening because he was a charismatic character and his words reverberated in your consciousness. This wasn't something local any more, football and political sensibilities were intermingling and people identified with this. Shankly put LFC in the hearts of many from outside the City because it, maybe, wasn't the shirt colour that mattered but the collective sense of identity and belonging, God Bless him.

 

I went to the game pretty much all the time, home and away, with my uncle and family as a young'un (Even standing on the old Kippax with my colours on). My uncle and me sat and watched the 'Spice-boys' final on TV, we couldn't afford it! It was that game which changed everything for me, my uncle moreso, because we saw them in their white fucking suits and we've never felt so disassociated with the players at our club and this has stayed with both of us to this day. I can't justify paying x amount of money to sustain the lives of people who have no idea what it is to struggle to make ends meat, and this is only growing deeper with the way football inc is today.

[Markmywords]

You definitely soak up more about the game when you're there than on telly because you get a better feel for the atmousphere and the attitude of the fans as a whole as well as just the match itself.

 

Does it make you a better fan?

 

Frankly I don't give a shit about that, I come accross plenty of fans that are so desperate to prove what a great fan they are and that's automatically proved by how many games they go to apparently. Well good for them, if they feel good about themselves thinking they're the best fans ever then good fair enough.

 

I don't go to anywhere near the amount of games I used to go to thanks to various money / family / career related things but I'm comfortable in my Woolness and comfortable in my armchair.

[WaltonRed]

Thousands of people want seaosn tickets (me included) but they can't get them.

 

But because I don't get to games regularly I don't give the same level of support? I think that is bollocks.

 

I contribute to pay the players / staff wages with merchandise, memberships etc. I am constantly on this site supporting the players / club, I go to games when I can.

 

I hate people who say they go to games are more supportive or have a more valid opinion. It is just 'super fan' bullshit!

 

Oh look at me, look at me - I'm a better fan than you!

 

Bullshit!

 

1. Never once called you a wool.

2. Its not about where you are from, I know loads of lads from outside Liverpool who go even more than me.

 

To reduce it to that pretty much sums some people up on here lately.

 

I didnt say going made you a better supporter or anything of the sort, I just value your opinion more if you do go.

 

and this bit made me howl LFD - 'i'm constantly on this site supporting the players/club'

 

yes you are, if you call slagging off NEW members of the team after 6 or 7 games, ripping in to young players in a NEW team.

 

Do it next May by all means when we know but in September is knee jerk bollocks.