*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Anubis]

As somebody pointed out, at 5.30pm on a Friday afternoon, anyone of any standing at the PL is going to be in a gentleman’s club with a glass of whisky and a Cuban cigar.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

PTSD? They should be considering sueing Everton themselves for continuous mental trauma, false dawns and stolen hope.

But we all know they love the failure, their bitter hearts crave and thrive off it.

[Special K]

Going 'after' the organisation that has already deducted 10 points from your total isn't the brightest idea.

 

Imagine if the great unwashed get one of the PL board in a headlock

[Bob]

28 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

I’m not even bothered about them being stripped of titles. 
 

I’d rather whatever the punishment going forwards would be harsher. 
 

For example…

 

1) Lose their Premiership titles and a 30 point deduction

 

or 

 

2) A 60 point deduction

 

… then I chose option 2. 

does 60 point guarantee relegation? Probably but maybe not. Either way, they’d be back one season later so they wouldn’t care.

 

whatever the punishment - and hopefully it would be very severe - you have to take their wins off the board.

[Bob]

23 minutes ago, Code said:

We have lost titles because another team cheated using financial doping we deserve those titles, the club deserve those titles, the players deserve those titles, the staff deserve those titles. 
 

Yes we could not celebrate them at the time, shit happens, but we still deserve them and should obviously get them. 

Yeah, ok, but who cares. The club updates their wall of honour and a few Wikipedia pages get updated. Doesn’t change anything for anyone else.

 

but ok.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

The blueshite chief exec is called Mr Chong

 

Cheats & Chong

 

 

[Scott_M]

2 minutes ago, Bob said:

does 60 point guarantee relegation? Probably but maybe not. Either way, they’d be back one season later so they wouldn’t care.

 

whatever the punishment - and hopefully it would be very severe - you have to take their wins off the board.

Dunno, it was only an example. I would hope any punishment would be more severe - the point is I’m not arsed about retrospective punishment, I want whatever punishment to significantly hurt them going forwards. 

[johnsusername]

32 minutes ago, Code said:

We have lost titles because another team cheated using financial doping we deserve those titles, the club deserve those titles, the players deserve those titles, the staff deserve those titles. 
 

Yes we could not celebrate them at the time, shit happens, but we still deserve them and should obviously get them. 

 

Spot on. If a team is stripped of the title then the title should go to the team who finished behind them, it's the only logical thing to do otherwise you're writing off a whole season of football as being pointless. 

[tokyojoe]

52 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

 

What I'm getting from this is that it's all Rafa's fault. 

Don't be silly, it's our fault.

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

Dunno, it was only an example. I would hope any punishment would be more severe - the point is I’m not arsed about retrospective punishment, I want whatever punishment to significantly hurt them going forwards. 

It should be both. Personally I'm not arsed about titles I won't get to celebrate, but I'm sure one or two of those players will want them. It's no different getting a gold for finishing 2nd after the Olympics if the winner was done for drugs cheating. Steven Gerrard for one I'm sure would be delighted.

[Lee909]

27 minutes ago, Bob said:

does 60 point guarantee relegation? Probably but maybe not. Either way, they’d be back one season later so they wouldn’t care.

 

whatever the punishment - and hopefully it would be very severe - you have to take their wins off the board.

 

I wouldn't be 100% sure they would. The EFL are pretty string on FFP/Sustainability rules and they are already running close to going under. They could easily sew another points deduction if they went down. They won't go down though

[Mudface]

1 hour ago, KMD7 said:

 

What I'm getting from this is that it's all Rafa's fault. 

 

That's two clubs he's brought to the very brink. Hopefully Hodgson can come in at Goodison and pick up the pieces like he did for us.

[Anubis]

If you’re going on the PL demo in London next Friday, you’re going to want to keep your head warm. So why not show your support at the same time. Bargain.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

They support The Ev, suffering from mental health issues is labeled on the tin. 
 

What about the supporters who were relegated because of their disregard for the rules?
 

Alternatively, they could look at their own club for ignoring repeated warnings and admitting they broke the rules. 

Also, they need to look at their own club for the unprecedented action of cheating in order to get much worse.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Anubis said:

I’ve never seen a fanbase with such an overinflated sense of their own importance.

 

Corrupt VAR decisions a-plenty from the Premier League who want Everton gone.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38196464/how-var-decisions-affect-premier-league-club-2023-24

[Mudface]

14 minutes ago, Anubis said:

If you’re going on the PL demo in London next Friday, you’re going to want to keep your head warm. So why not show your support at the same time. Bargain.

 

 

 

That's some markup. Although I suppose you can't really get economies of scale on runs of a dozen or so.

[Arniepie]

4 hours ago, Anubis said:

I’ve never seen a fanbase with such an overinflated sense of their own importance.

 

Absolute fucking mentalists 

Heard a few of them whinging before on the radio. 

It they ever call us victims again.

[No2]

The PL rules are based on 3 years accounts. You would have to assume that there is more punishment coming when the next 3 cycle is reviewed. And the one after that too.

[Arniepie]

Absolutely crying here

That domino's shout ended me.

Im just staggered they haven't blamed us yet 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

29 minutes ago, Anubis said:

If you’re going on the PL demo in London next Friday, you’re going to want to keep your head warm. So why not show your support at the same time. Bargain.

 

 

Lined with tin foil?

[Barrington Womble]

16 minutes ago, No2 said:

The PL rules are based on 3 years accounts. You would have to assume that there is more punishment coming when the next 3 cycle is reviewed. And the one after that too.

I reckon they'll be alright now. They've got the wages down. Anthony Gordon was sold during the last accounts cycle. And the interest on all the loans will probably be able to be set against the stadium. I reckon cashflow is the real enemy at the moment. 

[coachpotato]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

It should be both. Personally I'm not arsed about titles I won't get to celebrate, but I'm sure one or two of those players will want them. It's no different getting a gold for finishing 2nd after the Olympics is the winner was going to be cheating. Steven Gerrard for one I'm sure would be delighted.

City would never be able to shake off the stench of being found guilty, whether they have their “titles” removed or not. 
The asterisks will be there irrespective of whether they are included in any listings on the Premier League’s website or not.

The titles should be removed though, if found guilty, as they wouldn’t have won them fairly and, as with Olympic titles, they should be awarded to whoever came second.

Maybe we won’t be able to celebrate in the way we would have liked, but our players and staff should get the recognition they deserve by having their names in the record books and not City’s, or anyone else who have similarly cheated.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Fucking state of that bobble hat.

 

Hope they go bust now.

[Harry Squatter]

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Haven’t seen the story link but Paul Joyce has apparently published an article stating that future EFC submitted accounts are likely to be closely scrutinised by the PL.