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sir roger Grand Master

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Other way around, Etuhu four years.

 

BBC News - Manchester City's Kelvin Etuhu sentenced over casino brawl

 

I think... the story is poorly written.

 

pretty sure Sky said that Etuhu got 8 months & his mate got far longer.

 

The cctv stuff was pretty brutal stuff.

 

To be fair, the other lads waited outside the casino to attack them, but they did go a bit far once they got on top.

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pretty sure Sky said that Etuhu got 8 months & his mate got far longer.

 

The cctv stuff was pretty brutal stuff.

 

To be fair, the other lads waited outside the casino to attack them, but they did go a bit far once they got on top.

 

Got a link to the footage?

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That's a miscarriage of justice in my book. I haven't watched the cctv, don't care what happened earlier that evening but anyone who hops on with their two mates on two other guys deserves whatever they get. I wouldn't hold Etuhu responsible for his actions in that situation.

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Bit fucking heavy that, pissed up brawl and the lads were game for it. Like most gobshites they were game for it until they got their arses handed to them. Then it was right on the phone to the plod and a personal injury solicitor. Shame the other lads couldn't be charged with affray or acting like a knobhead. Not sure that is a crime though, but surely there are public order ones they have broken.

 

And whilst it is a bit naughty kicking somebodies head like a football, we are not all trained like Steven Seagal and have the ability to dispose of people with one strike. If I was attacked and I dropped the soft bastard, I would ensure he wasn't going to get up and put a bottle over my head or knife me so my ma is changing my shitbag for the next few months.

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Bit fucking heavy that, pissed up brawl and the lads were game for it. Like most gobshites they were game for it until they got their arses handed to them. Then it was right on the phone to the plod and a personal injury solicitor. Shame the other lads couldn't be charged with affray or acting like a knobhead. Not sure that is a crime though, but surely there are public order ones they have broken.

 

And whilst it is a bit naughty kicking somebodies head like a football, we are not all trained like Steven Seagal and have the ability to dispose of people with one strike. If I was attacked and I dropped the soft bastard, I would ensure he wasn't going to get up and put a bottle over my head or knife me so my ma is changing my shitbag for the next few months.

Great post.

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Like most brawls that occur at an early hour, this involved a bunch of people who had drunk enough ale that they weren't in control of themselves, their tempers or their actions any more.

 

This is the prize quote in the story for me:

 

Etuhu told police he had been "unusually drunk" that night.

 

Oh right, unusually drunk, no problem sonny! So someone held you down and poured that ale down you neck did they lad? No thought not, so what the fuck do I care whether you were pissed or not - it might explain why you kicked off but it doesn't justify it, nor does it excuse it. You chose to get bevvied past your limit, you decided to smack people, you, you , you. Personal responsibility motherfucker and just in case you aren't clear, saying "oh but I was really pissed" after the event isn't taking responsibility, it's attempting to provide some mitigation. Seriously now, fuck off.

 

None of them were responsible enough to avoid getting into that state to start with, none of them were responsible enough to control themselves once they had.

 

They're all a bunch of fucking nobheads; cunts like these that are rolling around in the gutter and scrapping with anything that moves are the main reason that I hardly ever go out in Manchester any more and why even when I do, I'm usually away before about 9.00pm.

 

Back when I first started going in pubs at about 17 every local had it's one or two drunks - the bloke that would roll in at about half ten, already shitfaced on white cider (this being in the days before we dignified being a cheapskate pisspot by calling it 'pre-loading') and manage to get through about three quarters of a pint of best before taking a swing at someone for no apparent reason, falling off their stool, throwing up, or sometimes all three at once. At this point the landlord would sling them out, they'd go home to sleep it off and a few nights later they'd be back and the whole thing would happen again.

 

Thing is, you used to know the pisshead in your local by name and as a rule they were pretty harmless most nights. What's changed since then isn't the number of pissheads in locals though, it's the number of locals. Here's a list of the pubs that were within a five minute walk of my house when I was around 20:

 

  • The Friendship
  • The Queens
  • The Rose Of Lancaster
  • The Plough
  • The Auld Lang Syne
  • The Black Horse
  • The Commercial
  • The Westwood

 

Here's a list of the ones that are left:

 

  • The Friendship

 

When I was about 20, town was deader than dead between Sunday and Thursday. Lads still went out for a few pints, lads always will but they went local, town was for the weekend - why would you want to go into town when there were no late buses, no taxi drivers working, no fanny and a long way to stagger home when there were eight pubs within a five minute walk?

 

Now there's fuck all locally so anyone that wants a pint goes into town. Overheads are higher for bars in town and the minimum wage has come in (bar staff were on £2 an hour round here the week before it was introduced) so if they're going to open at all they need to separate you from your money asap. Cue cheap drink deals (because hey, nothing makes you feel like buying another round of cheap shots more than drinking your sixth round of cheap shots) and you've created what you can see by about 10.00pm in the centre of pretty much any decent-sized town these days; Hogarth's Gin Lane given life before your eyes.

 

No-one knows anyone in bars these days, hardly any of them have any sort of regular crowd because people just go wherever is doing Jägerbombs cheapest this week. A bunch of young lads with no sense of responsibility, no interest in understanding or sticking to their limits and relatively high disposable incomes compared to 20 years ago, for whom everyone else in the place is just "some cunt" is not a recipe for a harmonious evening.

 

For the record, I'm not a puritan as far as ale is concerned. I like beer just fine - I love having a few pints, I like the crisp, refreshing taste of the stuff, I like getting a little merry, no problem (I used to play pool for a pub team ad that would never have happened without the aid of the two pint sweet zone) but that's it. I've set out to get drunk deliberately on just a couple of occasions in my life, both prompted by birds and it didn't help at all in either case. I don't get drunk by mistake because... well how the fuck does that happen unless you're drinking so fast that the full impact hasn't hit you yet, in which case you know you're drinking really fast and should realise that you're going to end up pissed. Unless you're really fucking thick.

 

Pissheads - have a few pints and a laugh, go home, stay the fuck out of people's faces. If you've got to be pissed before you can have a good time with your mates, your mates are shite.

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That's a miscarriage of justice in my book. I haven't watched the cctv, don't care what happened earlier that evening but anyone who hops on with their two mates on two other guys deserves whatever they get. I wouldn't hold Etuhu responsible for his actions in that situation.

 

:monkeyshocked:

 

Would have somewhat agreed until one of then decided to knock out a woman trying to calm him down.

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