NFL Discussion and Fantasy League thread

[Cardie]

That's bollocks cardie.

 

Rules consistently favour offense and games are becoming more and more about just scorning more and not putting much in the hands of the defense.

 

Trickery like this should always have a short shelf life. Do it, get away with it once or twice, then have it taken away.

 

Shouldn't the defense know who they are having to defend against?

 

If all players were eligible, fair enough, but when a player looks eligible but isn't, when you're having to shift as a defense at a tempo dictated by the offense, then it's trickery.

 

More and more teams are going up tempo, no huddle style. Allowing that sort of play is just unfair.

 

I know its available to everyone, and no question it's clever use of the rules, but it comes down to 'spirit of the game' type thinking for me.

 

Make it a battle. Let my team make a play by being better than yours. Not by being sneaker.

 

How is it any sneakier than a wildcat, or fake punt, or fake field goal. Ineligible player is highlighted and can't cross the line of scrimmage, teams just deal with it and it naturally fades in and out of fashion. No good teams crying about it not being fair and asking for the rules to be changed.

[Carvalho Diablo]

WR Brashad Perriman goes fucking barmy at his pro-day.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/did-ucf-receiver-breshad-perriman-just-run-a-sub-4-2-second-40-yard-dash-184248728.html

[Lee909]

Doubt it was that fast

These pro day times are often a joke,to be honest the whole aspect of the underwear olympics is

 

Run in pads

[Bob]

How is it any sneakier than a wildcat, or fake punt, or fake field goal. Ineligible player is highlighted and can't cross the line of scrimmage, teams just deal with it and it naturally fades in and out of fashion. No good teams crying about it not being fair and asking for the rules to be changed.

It's massively different from any of those things.

 

They are execution of a play that has been designed to make a team think you're doing one thing when you're doing another, and relying on the ability of players to execute, often (fakes) where that player isn't really skilled in the role he's asked to play.

 

A ST/defense that's been able to force an actual QB and actual RB into a fourth down should be able to stop a punter or blocking tight end from running or throwing successfully and if the trick is successful then fair play.

 

It's also something that the defense practices to prevent, so even more credit if you can pull it off.

 

It's execution of a play that everyone knows could potentially be in the arsenal.

 

This isn't that.

 

This is in effect deception. It's saying, this player here who looks like an offensive player and is wearing a number designated as an offensive player, and who you think you have to match up against, isn't actually on the field at all. He doesn't exist.

 

It's not cheating. It was perfectly fair deception, and quite wily, but it's deception nonetheless. It's sneaky.

 

So changing the rules to prevent it just seems wholly reasonable to me. And the coaches and league agreed.

[Bob]

Another point is that fans watching don't know what they're watching when shit like that goes down - I'm sure you did, but most wouldn't have - and that's not good as far as the league looks at things.

[Cardie]

It's massively different from any of those things.

 

They are execution of a play that has been designed to make a team think you're doing one thing when you're doing another, and relying on the ability of players to execute, often (fakes) where that player isn't really skilled in the role he's asked to play.

Execution of a play that makes a defence think you're doing something else - check.

 

Relying on players to execute in roles they aren't skilled in - tackles as receivers would definetly fall into that category.

 

How is it different again?

 

 

[Bob]

Execution of a play that makes a defence think you're doing something else - check.

 

Relying on players to execute in roles they aren't skilled in - tackles as receivers would definetly fall into that category.

 

How is it different again?

Selective quoting, by you? Never!!

 

It's not the tackle as a receiver that's the issue, and the rules change hasn't stopped a tackle from becoming eligible. It's the deception that a receiver is now a tackle that's the issue.

 

They are just a blocking receiver, which they could already be on a play, and it is a (previously but no longer permissible) trick.

 

I think the rule change is right, fair and sensible.

[Lee909]

Happy with the change personally.

[Cardie]

Jaguars have announced that draft picks will be announced like from the sky sports studio in the upcoming draft.

 

Sky sports make a huge deal of the "massive news" citing the millions of people who watch the draft.

 

Shame it'll be the 6th and 7th rounds that are being announced, rounds pretty much only scouts are interested in with picks announced by the security guards and tea ladies.

 

Though it should lock up the draft being shown live on sky.

 

 

[Lee909]

I'll be watching the lot

 

Mostly cause im sad

[neko]

Aaron Rodgers dating Olivia Munn ? That is 'winning at life'....

 

[neko]

good to hear - comeback player of the year for me....

 

The Dallas Cowboys hung on to one of its best defenders from 2014.

Rolando McClain and the Cowboys agreed to a one-year contract worth $3 million in base salary and another $1 million in playtime incentives, ESPN's Ed Werder reported Wednesday.

The former first-round linebacker visited the New England Patriots on Monday and received an offer, before choosing to stay in Dallas, per Werder.

McClain underwent a reclamation year with the Cowboys following two failed retirements, compiling 81 tackles and a sack in 13 games. The 25-year-old linebacker -- who has had his share of run-ins with the law -- will be fined his first four paychecks to open the 2015 season for violating the NFL's policy on substance abuse.

McClain started the 2014 season on a tear and looked like a Comeback Player of the Year candidate. His play tailed off at the end, but placing him back in the middle of the Cowboys defense will allow the oft-injured Sean Lee to swing to the weak side and solidify the unit.

[Lee909]

Still a while away but a reminder to everyone the league is reducing in size this year after being a man down last year.

Its 14 teams this year so ill post on here when the leagues reopen and i need everyone to that wants in to reply quickly as its the first 14 that are in,

[neko]

Has anyone else been watching the "Caught in the draft" series on the NFL network ?

 

It's an incredible show. The 1965 draft with Joe Namath sounded more like a James Bond film with a mixture of Mad Men thrown in. Unbelievable stories of mystery and intrigue.

 

The 1975 draft with Pittsburgh drafting 4 hall of famers and the Cowboys drafting 12 starters.

 

So many great stories, and amazing to see how the NFL draft has evolved over the years.

[Lee909]

I watch the ones they did last year. Ill catch up with these at work next weekend. NFL network does some great films

[neko]

just noticed you can watch segments of them on nfl.com, mira aqui....

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/caught-in-the-draft

[Carvalho Diablo]

Sigh.

 

[DJLJ]

80+ days on and nothing on Deflategate. For something that got hyped up that much, they surely are taking their time on this...

[Lee909]

Too busy slapping the wrists of the Falcons. Oh by slapping i mean tickling with a feather. Because piping in noise isnt that big a crime and doesn't give a onfield advantage does it..

 

Just because the falcons are too shite to win doesnt mean they should have been let of the hook.

 

A 5th round pick next year

And there man suspended from the competition committee a week after the committee has had its yearly meeting

 

Fuck you Goodell

[Bob]

Aaron Hernandez found guilty today. Life without parole.

 

It's a sport that has its share of bad uns.

[Lee909]

Pretty horrible them new uniforms the Browns have

Bent over for nike

[Carvalho Diablo]

Pretty horrible them new uniforms the Browns have

Bent over for nike

 

Are you mad ?

 

Best in the league. End of. Superbowl etc.

[BCM]

Ladies and Gentlemen he's back..............

 

[Carvalho Diablo]

PTL

[ticklemeclemo]

Just so Im clear... Arguably the best coach of the last 15 years didnt think he could do anything with Tebow. But the Chipper can

So the Eagles are going in with Bradford, Sanchez, and Tebow.

 

I so want Chip Kelly to trade for Johnny Manziel just to see what happens