Goodfellas

[Kevin D]

When you can't borrow another buck from the bank?

[Kevin D]

Getting blood on your mates floor is bang out of order, IMO.

[Kevin D]

On reflection, I'm not convinced that Jimmy would be a great long-term heist partner.

[redheart]

On 12/10/2021 at 20:23, Bjornebye said:

Brave man sitting there with a hit still out on him 

One thing that always confused me about Goodfellas.

 

The mob whacked Tommy because he killed the made man Billy Batts. But Jimmy and Henry also helped him him and hide the body. 

 

Why did they leave them alone? Why not kill all three?

[Mook]

2 minutes ago, redheart said:

One thing that always confused me about Goodfellas.

 

The mob whacked Tommy because he killed the made man Billy Batts. But Jimmy and Henry also helped him him and hide the body. 

 

Why did they leave them alone? Why not kill all three?

"It was among the Italians. It was real greaseball shit."

[Kevin D]

It was for Billy Bats. And a lot of other shit, as well.

[Tj hooker]

Spotted this a while ago the next time I'm in New York I'll be looking to do it , it's a mixture of real life Henry hill  locations and movie locations 

[Bjornebye]

19 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Spotted this a while ago the next time I'm in New York I'll be looking to do it , it's a mixture of real life Henry hill  locations and movie locations 

Now that looks decent 

[Tj hooker]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Now that looks decent 

You visit the actual pub that was used after the Lufthansa heist was filmed  apparently the oldest tavern in New York 

[Bjornebye]

34 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

You visit the actual pub that was used after the Lufthansa heist was filmed  apparently the oldest tavern in New York 

That’s class. I had a drink and a shit in the bar from Cocktail but it’s not quite on the same level haha 

[Tj hooker]

Neirs Tavern 

[Bjornebye]

Leave your mink coat at home John! 

[Tj hooker]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Leave your mink coat at home John! 

Hahahaha ok pal,  what about the Coupe ? 

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Hahahaha ok pal,  what about the Coupe ? 

Hahaha now that’s a dilemma 

[redheart]

3 hours ago, Mook said:

"It was among the Italians. It was real greaseball shit."

Still doesn't explain why they didn't kill the other two as well

[Mook]

7 minutes ago, redheart said:

Still doesn't explain why they didn't kill the other two as well

It quite clearly does but ok.

[redheart]

18 hours ago, Mook said:

It quite clearly does but ok.

So if someone who is not an Italian kills a made man then the mafia leave him alone?

[Chairman Meow]

Jimmy Burke was a good earner.

 

No matter what anyone says about honour and all the other bull shit they come out with about the mafia it always comes down to money.

 

They bend more rules than the Catholic church as long as someone makes money. 

[Mook]

1 hour ago, redheart said:

So if someone who is not an Italian kills a made man then the mafia leave him alone?

In this instance they did & the reason why is explained in the film. Batts' death was pretty much all down to Tommy plus as Kevin D has pointed out, Tommy was whacked for that hit and a load of other shit.

 

He had it coming and the Irish hoodlums didn't.

[redheart]

But the Irish hoodlum killed him with Tommy (De Niro was stamping on his head) and they helped bury him.

 

So if the mafia had anyone code they would have killed all three.

 

It still makes no sense

[Arniepie]

7 minutes ago, redheart said:

But the Irish hoodlum killed him with Tommy (De Niro was stamping on his head) and they helped bury him.

 

So if the mafia had anyone code they would have killed all three.

 

It still makes no sense

Bit it was Tommy's decision to kill him?

And with the 'lot of other shit'comment it was probally the last straw. 

[Chairman Meow]

24 minutes ago, redheart said:

But the Irish hoodlum killed him with Tommy (De Niro was stamping on his head) and they helped bury him.

 

So if the mafia had anyone code they would have killed all three.

 

It still makes no sense

 

The Mafia don't have a code. It's all about money, Jimmy Burke made a shit ton of cash, if he didn't then maybe they would have killed him as well. 

 

The "honour" is and always was bullshit, just a total myth. 

 

"We don't sell drugs" apart from the times they did, "you can't just kill a made man" apart from the times people have and it was ignored, "you can't kill a boss" apart from the times they did, etc. etc. 

 

It's why you see pictures of Albert Anastasia looking all amicable on the barbershop floor.

[Mook]

18 minutes ago, redheart said:

But the Irish hoodlum killed him with Tommy (De Niro was stamping on his head) and they helped bury him.

 

So if the mafia had anyone code they would have killed all three.

 

It still makes no sense

The Italian with all the other shit to his name took the fall for Batts' murder.

 

I can understand what you're saying but it does make sense and it's explained quite clearly in the film.

[redheart]

There is an explanation but it does not make sense.

 

We kill the Italian but leave alone the two Irish who helped kill and dispose of a made man.

 

Narrpp. Very weak

[Chairman Meow]

3 minutes ago, redheart said:

There is an explanation but it does not make sense.

 

We kill the Italian but leave alone the two Irish who helped kill and dispose of a made man.

 

Narrpp. Very weak

 

You do know that's what actually happened though? Tommy De Simone (who Tommy De Vito was based on) was killed, Jimmy Burke (who Conway was based on) and Henry Hill weren't. 

 

As I've said above, logic and the mafia don't go together, all the honour and code stuff is total bullshit, they don't live by it at all. If you're useful you live, if not you go, it's very, very simple.