Our CB situation.

[Shooter in the Motor 7,868]

4 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Are we voting on the top two from this group?

First to 5 wins

[rubble-rouser 2,226]

4 hours ago, Tony Moanero said:

Leave Dr Nowt out of this

[AngryofTuebrook 18,753]

46 minutes ago, Trumo said:

 

 

As you can see, Fab has been our most reliable player at centre back. Defensively we've been much better with him back there alongside an actual centre back. The two-centre-backs figures are skewed by the anomaly that is the Villa 7-2 game where everything Villa did around our penalty area resulted in a goal. There were at least 2 deflected goals for them in that game. Our attacking numbers dropped off badly with Hendo at the back, who was mostly only played there because Fab was missing. With two centre backs, our midfield shape looks better and links better with our attack because we can play with more tempo and intensity. When we can do that, we pin teams back, make them fret and force mistakes. Looking more like our usual selves gets results. Who knew!

I think yesterday might have been our first Fabless clean sheet.

[dave u 6,116]

This is great, it's the most Code thing ever that he's put together a spreadsheet on this. I love it.

 

Nothing about our centre back situation this season has made me smile, until now.

[Red Shift 315]

Klopp has a system, the players fit the system. It also explains why he said that Kabak and Davies wouldn’t be playing immediately upon signing. They gotta learn.

 

Nothing wrong with rotation, but, granted, injuries make rotation a bit out of the ordinary.

[VladimirIlyich 7,725]

16 minutes ago, dave u said:

This is great, it's the most Code thing ever that he's put together a spreadsheet on this. I love it.

 

Nothing about our centre back situation this season has made me smile, until now.

Even funnier when you know his female secretary is now being nailed by the Deputy Mayor.

[Code 972]

44 minutes ago, dave u said:

This is great, it's the most Code thing ever that he's put together a spreadsheet on this. I love it.

 

Nothing about our centre back situation this season has made me smile, until now.

Haha I’ll even keep it updated.

 

My guess is that we will reach at least 20 different pairings this season. 

[Razoray 422]

So we average 2.0 pts per game when the 2 CBs are a combination of VVD/Matip/Gomez/Fabinho.

Still not at the standard of the past 2 seasons but we would be 2nd and safe for a top 4 position if it was a nightmare season and 2 of our CBs were injured for the year.

Having the 1st 5 choice CBs unavailable has made it a fucking disaster. 

[Colonel Bumcunt 479]

Defence is everything. 

It's why City have gone on their run.  Fuck all to do with De Bruyne or Silva. 

 

My concern is Van Dijk and Gomez still not being fit in August. It's not unreasonable to think they will struggle to get fit and stay fit, especially as every grock team in the division will want to test their knees with some horrendous challenges.  

 

We need to plan for life without them.  We actually need to sell Gomez before he breaks down again. We could net £40m for him of we are cute about it.   

 

Get in Ben White and Tarkowski. Play the numbers. 

[VladimirIlyich 7,725]

5 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Defence is everything. 

It's why City have gone on their run.  Fuck all to do with De Bruyne or Silva. 

 

My concern is Van Dijk and Gomez still not being fit in August. It's not unreasonable to think they will struggle to get fit and stay fit, especially as every grock team in the division will want to test their knees with some horrendous challenges.  

 

We need to plan for life without them.  We actually need to sell Gomez before he breaks down again. We could net £40m for him of we are cute about it.   

 

Get in Ben White and Tarkowski. Play the numbers. 

I'm not sure if you are serious here but we wont be buying British centre halves unless they are on a free or have a large re-sale value. We only bought Davies for re-sale value and our other British CBs were already at the club. You do make a fair point about Gomez and VVD staying fit though,especially Gomez.

[Colonel Bumcunt 479]

2 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I'm not sure if you are serious here but we wont be buying British centre halves unless they are on a free or have a large re-sale value. We only bought Davies for re-sale value and our other British CBs were already at the club. You do make a fair point about Gomez and VVD staying fit though,especially Gomez.

I think both would be value signings and PL-ready. 

[TheHowieLama 11,045]

2 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I think both would be value signings and PL-ready. 

Get 40m for Gomez and then pay 60m for Ben White - a lesser player?

 

No.

[Colonel Bumcunt 479]

9 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Get 40m for Gomez and then pay 60m for Ben White - a lesser player?

 

No.

Can't let that slide.  

One is always injured. One is not. 

[Remmie 5,782]

3 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Can't let that slide.  

One is always injured. One is not. 

Well make your mind up, are you injured or not? 

[Reckoner 1,298]

On 01/03/2021 at 14:51, Code said:

Everyone know we have struggled big time at CB this season, but its difficult to fully understand it before you see it infront of you.

 

I’ve put together a spreadsheet just to show how bad its been in all its glory.

 

We started the season with three CB’s and Fabinho was going to be our 4th choice.

 

Our best CB pairing, Van Dijk - Matip, have just played together once all season, away to the bitters when Van Dijk got his injury.

 

Van Dijk - Matip 1 game together

Van Dijk - Gomez 3 games together 

Matip - Gomez 1 game together.

 

Just twice have we seen three games in a row with the same CB pair.

 

Gomez and Fabinho against Ajax, Sheff Utd and FC Midtjylland, and Henderson and Kabak against Leicester, RB Leipzig and Everton.

 

These numbers are truly shocking when we actually look into it, on top of that we have had to change our goalkeeper more than normal as well because of injuries and other circumstances. 
 

Our most used player at CB this season is a midfielder.

 

Fabinho 21 games

Matip 11 games

Gomez 10 games

 

But the worst stat of all, is the fact we have started with 17 different CB pairings in 38 games so far this season. As if that was not bad enough, there will probably be more. 

So to sum up, we miss Van Dijk? To be fair someone who makes a spread sheet about how many games a defender plays is most definitely a proper fan, I think it’s reasonable to assume.
This from someone who’s currently watching Barnsley v Liverpool in the FA Cup in full from 1985 on YouTube at 1am.
Actually that just makes me sad doesn’t it?

[an tha 6,298]

Nailed on another new partnership tomorrow

[Code 972]

Just now, an tha said:

Nailed on another new partnership tomorrow

 

Fabinho-Kabak? Fabinho-Davies?

[VladimirIlyich 7,725]

1 minute ago, Code said:

 

Fabinho-Kabak? Fabinho-Davies?

You are being ambitious including Fabinho in your choices. I've almost given up on him too.

[Code 972]

26 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

You are being ambitious including Fabinho in your choices. I've almost given up on him too.

Thought all three of him, Alisson and Jota was ready for tomorrow. 

[an tha 6,298]

33 minutes ago, Code said:

 

Fabinho-Kabak? Fabinho-Davies?

Fabinho - Phillips possibly?

[VladimirIlyich 7,725]

49 minutes ago, Code said:

Thought all three of him, Alisson and Jota was ready for tomorrow. 

For now maybe. Jota was supposed to be available against Sheff Utd until the day of the match until he got sick.

[El Dangerous 2,667]

Are Chelsea likely to start with Giroud? Probably best to stick with Phillips if so, their pace in other places will trouble us but at least Phillips can header the ball. Kabaks 50p head is giving me Skrtel flashbacks.

[TheHowieLama 11,045]

Is Phillips alot slower than Harry Maguire?

 

Asking for a friend.

[joe_fishfish 426]

Phillips is probably slower than Harry Maguire at full tilt, but Harry Maguire takes the length of the pitch to get up to full tilt, so I don't think there's much in it.

[El Dangerous 2,667]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is Phillips alot slower than Harry Maguire?

 

Asking for a friend.

There’s ardjly anything in it.