Keir Starmer

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Well, I suggest people read that. It's quite, quite funny. 

Good, shows we're all enjoying ourselves.

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

One thing he has got which the Tories haven't got is some sort of moral compass. I wouldn't leave my wife or kids (if I had any) near anyone in the Tory party. 

One of the stereotypes this basket case of a County clings too is that we are on the right side of history, English sense of fair play and all that.

If johnson has shown is anything, it's what a load of shite that is.

Corbyn had more decency in his little finger than johnson has in his entire life.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Gnasher said:

Good, shows we're all enjoying ourselves.

You're not though, Mike. You're running around like a headless chicken, quoting posts and linking things that have nothing to do with me or anything I've actually said. The contents of which don't even back you up. You're in some weird frenzy. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

Corbyn had more decency in his little finger

BINGO!

 

Seriously, if I had a pound for every time I'd heard that phrase or some variant of it, I'd be quite wealthy. I'm not saying he doesn't have more decency than Johnson, before Gnasher goes 'see, he supports Johnson and said he has more decency than Corbyn' whilst posting links to some pretend fact check nonsense about pizza hut. It's just funny that it's always 'Corbyn has more [x] in his [x]'. I bet I can find some of them on this forum. 

[Gnasher]

10 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You're not though, Mike. You're running around like a headless chicken, quoting posts and linking things that have nothing to do with me or anything I've actually said. The contents of which don't even back you up. You're in some weird frenzy. 

Mike? Why did you call me that when it's not my name? So another statement not factually correct. How strange. For what it's worth my name is Lawrence.

[Arniepie]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

BINGO!

 

Seriously, if I had a pound for every time I'd heard that phrase or some variant of it, I'd be quite wealthy. I'm not saying he doesn't have more decency than Johnson, before Gnasher goes 'see, he supports Johnson and said he has more decency than Corbyn' whilst posting links to some pretend fact check nonsense about pizza hut. It's just funny that it's always 'Corbyn has more [x] in his [x]'. I bet I can find some of them on this forum. 

I'd say the same thing about starmer or milliband. 

It was more a reference to how this country views themselves, how many times do we see ourselves taking the moral ground.

Yet the person who has all the morals of your average rattle snake gets an 80 seat majority. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I'd say the same thing about starmer or milliband. 

It was more a reference to how this country views themselves, how many times do we see ourselves taking the moral ground.

Yet the person who has all the morals of your average rattle snake gets an 80 seat majority. 

Quite. I'd probably say the same about fucking Thatcher when it comes to Johnson. She would have fucked off a long time ago if she'd be caught doing what Johnson did. That's the thing about old Tories, they at least held their hands up when their cuntery was unmasked. Even Cameron fucked off after Brexit.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Mike? Why did you call me that when it's not factually correct? How strange. For what it's worth my name Lawrence.

Okay Mike. 

[Gnasher]

8 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

BINGO!

 

Seriously, if I had a pound for every time I'd heard that phrase or some variant of it, I'd be quite wealthy. I'm not saying he doesn't have more decency than Johnson, before Gnasher goes 'see, he supports Johnson and said he has more decency than Corbyn' whilst posting links to some pretend fact check nonsense about pizza hut. It's just funny that it's always 'Corbyn has more [x] in his [x]'. I bet I can find some of them on this forum. 

Gawd he's banging on about Corbyn again now.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Mike? Why did you call me that when it's not my name? So another statement not factually correct. How strange. For what it's worth my name is Lawrence.

 

 

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Okay Mike. 

Okay weird fella. If it rocks your boat an all that.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Gawd he's banging on about Corbyn again now.

Yes, very right-wing of me. 

[Gnasher]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yes, very right-wing of me. 

Would this Corbyn fella be left wing by any chance. Like that mythical left wing fella called Andy Burnham yesterday?

 

Only asking because you're so intelligent you know everything about everything and know everything about everyone and the truth dare not stop for a man such as yourself.

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Would this Corbyn fella be left wing by any chance. Like that mythical left wing fella called Andy Burnham yesterday?

 

Only asking because you're so intelligent you know everything about everything and know everything about everyone and the truth dare not stop for a man such as yourself.

You seem a bit insecure about your (lack of) intelligence. Funny thing is, you're the one claiming to know more about my political positions - without ever mentioning a single one - and place on the political spectrum than I do. 

[Gnasher]

18 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yes, hard left wing union leader aside… 

 

What right wing policies has Starmer moved towards. Another one to avoid. 

"Hard left" union leader. Dear God. 

 

I actually said Starmer has moved Labour to the right, which indeed he has, not that he's turned himself into the new Oswald Mosley, as i'm sure a man with such a comprehensive brain as yourself understood.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-rules-out-nationalising-big-six-energy-firms-major-shift-away-jeremy-corbyn-leadership-1219015

 

Any comment on the shelving of Labour renationalising energy? Or any comments on the subject matter in the other links provided?  

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You seem a bit insecure about your (lack of) intelligence. Funny thing is, you're the one claiming to know more about my political positions - without ever mentioning a single one - and place on the political spectrum than I do. 

I seem to know more on Starmers political position than you Numero. That's been made evident.

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

"Hard left" union leader. Dear God. 

 

I actually said Starmer has moved Labour to the right, which indeed he has, not that he's turned himself into the new Oswald Mosley, as i'm sure a man with such a comprehensive brain as yourself understood.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-rules-out-nationalising-big-six-energy-firms-major-shift-away-jeremy-corbyn-leadership-1219015

 

Any comment on the shelving of Labour renationalising energy? Or any comments on the subject matter in the other links provided?  

My comment is, learn to read. Seriously, you need to stop and actually read what's written because you keep reading something, then taking something different from it. Secondly, that link doesn't say he's shelving anything, it says he won't nationalise the big six energy companies. He then says, “Let me spell it out. What that means is that where common ownership is value for money for the taxpayer and delivers a better service, then I’m in favour of common ownership.”, how does that break his 'support common ownership of rail, mail, energy and water' pledge? The obvious answer is that it doesn't. He might go on to break pledges, but this is just fantasy from you. Again. You can keep on posting the same link, over and over like some sort of bot, but it won't make the contents of it change. 

 

7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I seem to know more on Starmers political position than you Numero. That's been made evident.

 

You're one of the most ignorant people this forum has ever seen. And that's saying something. You have no real knowledge of any of the concepts you're talking about on here beyond the skin deep shit you've read in the title. It's so clear in the brexit thread where you continually post shit you've not read. It's pathetic. You have a distasteful habit of stating things and never backing them up, because you can't. It's classic ignorance.

[Gnasher]

"Hard left" If Sharon Graham is hard left in Numeros world then an awful lot of the women in Brtain are the same. 

 

Just another silly sly factually wrong label aimed towards those who dare to stand up and speak about workers rights and peoples social justice in this country.

[Gnasher]

26 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

My comment is, learn to read. Seriously, you need to stop and actually read what's written because you keep reading something, then taking something different from it. Secondly, that link doesn't say he's shelving anything, it says he won't nationalise the big six energy companies. He then says, “Let me spell it out. What that means is that where common ownership is value for money for the taxpayer and delivers a better service, then I’m in favour of common ownership.”, how does that break his 'support common ownership of rail, mail, energy and water' pledge? The obvious answer is that it doesn't. He might go on to break pledges, but this is just fantasy from you. Again. You can keep on posting the same link, over and over like some sort of bot, but it won't make the contents of it change. 

 

You're one of the most ignorant people this forum has ever seen. And that's saying something. You have no real knowledge of any of the concepts you're talking about on here beyond the skin deep shit you've read in the title. It's so clear in the brexit thread where you continually post shit you've not read. It's pathetic. You have a distasteful habit of stating things and never backing them up, because you can't. It's classic ignorance.

Didums.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

BINGO!

 

Seriously, if I had a pound for every time I'd heard that phrase or some variant of it, I'd be quite wealthy. I'm not saying he doesn't have more decency than Johnson, before Gnasher goes 'see, he supports Johnson and said he has more decency than Corbyn' whilst posting links to some pretend fact check nonsense about pizza hut. It's just funny that it's always 'Corbyn has more [x] in his [x]'. I bet I can find some of them on this forum. 

Corbyn has more marbles in his anus than @Mook

[Numero Veinticinco]

24 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

"Hard left" If Sharon Graham is hard left in Numeros world then an awful lot of the women in Brtain are the same. 

 

Just another silly sly factually wrong label aimed towards those who dare to stand up and speak about workers rights and peoples social justice in this country.

Learn. To. Read. Aside from the fact that I didn't actually call Sharon Graham hard-left, I'll leave these here for you to ignore. The probably far-right, and definitely not independent newspaper, The Independent and the ultra far right Socialist Morning Star. The first calling her hard-left, the latter saying she's taking Unite left (left of the previous leader... so, ya know...) and militant. But 'factually wrong', Gnasher's source: trust me, bro. 

 

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Momentum congratulates hard-left candidate set for victory in Unite leadership contest

 

Hard-left figure Sharon Graham is set to win a surprise victory and become the next general secretary of Unite, the union which remains the Labour Party’s biggest funder. Ms Graham – backed by the Socialist Workers Party and the Socialist Party – is on course to take the contest, union sources have said.

Source: Independent

 

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SHARON GRAHAM’S impressive win in the Unite leadership contest confirms the union’s left and militant direction.

Source: Morning Star

 

Oh, in if anybody isn't satisfied with Gnasher 'trust me, bro' source on what it means to be hard-left, you can read about it for yourself here. Particularly, 'in the United Kingdom, the hard left are the left-wing political movements and ideas outside the mainstream centre-left'. 

 

It's easy to back up what you say if you actually try. 

 

 

[Gnasher]

7 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Learn. To. Read. Aside from the fact that I didn't actually call Sharon Graham hard-left, I'll leave these here for you to ignore. The probably far-right, and definitely not independent newspaper, The Independent and the ultra far right Socialist Morning Star. The first calling her hard-right, the latter saying she's taking Unite left (left of the previous leader... so, ya know...) and militant. But 'factually wrong', Gnasher's source: trust me, bro. 

 

Source: Independent

 

Source: Morning Star

 

Oh, in if anybody isn't satisfied with Gnasher 'trust me, bro' source on what it means to be hard-left, you can read about it for yourself here

Ha so one news outlet calls Graham 'hard left'..a news outlet you normally ridicule. 

 

Numero. Sharon Graham's is not 'hard left' nothing she has done since taking the job as Unite supremo can justify calling her 'hard left' and whilst on the subject of political flags planted in ever shifting sand  Keir Starmer is unfortunately no longer 'centre left'...he's moved to far to the right to be called 'centre left' i would say he's more hmm 'neo liberal centre.

[Numero Veinticinco]

23 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Didums.

A bravura display of polemical debate. You could have responded to the actual pledge he made, apologising for making a cunt out of yourself again, but instead decided to cut straight for the 'didums' comment just a few posts after calling me childish. That's... cool. 

Just now, Gnasher said:

Ha so one news outlet calls Graham 'hard left'..a news outlet you normally ridicule. 

When have I ever - not even 'normally' - ridiculed the Independent? Another things you won't back up. You lie about the strangest things. 

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Numero. Sharon Graham's is not 'hard left' nothing she has done since taking the job as Unite supremo can justify calling her 'hard left' and whilst on the subject of political flags planted in ever shifting sand  Keir Starmer is unfortunately no longer 'centre left'...he's moved to far to the right to be called 'centre left' i would say he's more hmm 'neo liberal centre.

Sigh. Yes, your 'trust me, bro' she's not hard-left comment is quite persuasive, or would be if it wasn't obviously true. And a final one for you to ignore, any chance you could outline what real things - neoliberal positions, policies, etc - have happened for him to now be classed as a neoliberal that weren't true when he was elected? 

[Gnasher]

27 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Corbyn has more marbles in his anus than @Mook

 

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

BINGO!

 

Seriously, if I had a pound for every time I'd heard that phrase or some variant of it, I'd be quite wealthy. I'm not saying he doesn't have more decency than Johnson, before Gnasher goes 'see, he supports Johnson and said he has more decency than Corbyn' whilst posting links to some pretend fact check nonsense about pizza hut. It's just funny that it's always 'Corbyn has more [x] in his [x]'. I bet I can find some of them on this forum. 

God, Corbyn, Sharon Graham, Andy Burnham, and they are just today's targets.. Its like a continuous game of left wing whack-a-mole on here for you.

 

These people you seem to have no time for (putting it mildly) just want social justice. 

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

A bravura display of polemical debate. You could have responded to the actual pledge he made, apologising for making a cunt out of yourself again, but instead decided to cut straight for the 'didums' comment just a few posts after calling me childish. That's... cool. 

When have I ever - not even 'normally' - ridiculed the Independent? Another things you won't back up. You lie about the strangest things. 

Sigh. Yes, your 'trust me, bro' she's not hard-left comment is quite persuasive, or would be if it wasn't obviously true. And a final one for you to ignore, any chance you could outline what real things - neoliberal positions, policies, etc - have happened for him to now be classed as a neoliberal that weren't true when he was elected? 

https://evolvepolitics.com/fact-check-yes-keir-starmer-has-broken-or-rowed-back-on-a-large-proportion-of-his-labour-leadership-pledges-already/