Keir Starmer

[Strontium]

22 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

An LBC journo turned up at a Jewish Voice for Labour meeting and started filming.  Someone (not one of the organisers)  took the hump, grabbed his phone off him and bundled him out. JVL have issued an apology.

 

That "someone" being the notorious antisemite Tony Greenstein, a man who has been expelled by the Labour Party. Questions ought to be asked about why a notorious antisemite who has been expelled from the party was not only permitted in an official Labour Party fringe meeting, but allowed to manhandle someone who was there legitimately.

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

So hang on, there actually wasn't any threat of violence whatsoever? 

 

 

I'd take a wild stab at no. 

 

[Gnasher]

38 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I’m not saying that she said it is.

 

I’m saying it is and that it should be treated as such. 
 

 

You've massively over egged this havnt you Skids?

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

That "someone" being the notorious antisemite Tony Greenstein, a man who has been expelled by the Labour Party. Questions ought to be asked about why a notorious antisemite who has been expelled from the party was not only permitted in an official Labour Party fringe meeting, but allowed to manhandle someone who was there legitimately.

He's Jewish.

 

Tony Greenstein is a Jewish anti-Zionist and a founding member of Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods. He is a long-standing anti-fascist activist and author of A History of Fighting Fascism in Brighton and the South Coast. Mr Greenstein has written for many publications including the Guardian's Comment is Free, the Brighton Argus and Brighton and Hove Independent, Tribune, Labour Briefing and Weekly Worker. He also contributed the section of Zionism to Hodder & Stoughton's The Essentials of Philosophy & Ethics (2006) and most recently to the Anti-Semitism Wars (ed. Karl Sabbagh) on the Zionist anti-Semitism campaign in the Labour Party. He is a well known blogger and is currently working on a book Zionism During the Holocaust. Mr Greenstein is also an active trade unionist and a member of Brighton & Hove Trades Council, UNITE and UNISON.

[Strontium]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

He's Jewish.

 

So what?

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Duff Man said:

 

 

Reeves is right, the days of using people for cheap labour are over, at last the Labour Party are reading the room. A Labour party that was born to fight for increasing workers pay and conditions in this country not for the benefit of a Hungarian coffee shop worker.

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

That "someone" being the notorious antisemite Tony Greenstein, a man who has been expelled by the Labour Party. Questions ought to be asked about why a notorious antisemite who has been expelled from the party was not only permitted in an official Labour Party fringe meeting, but allowed to manhandle someone who was there legitimately.

Here we go

[Arniepie]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

He's Jewish.

 

Tony Greenstein is a Jewish anti-Zionist and a founding member of Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods. He is a long-standing anti-fascist activist and author of A History of Fighting Fascism in Brighton and the South Coast. Mr Greenstein has written for many publications including the Guardian's Comment is Free, the Brighton Argus and Brighton and Hove Independent, Tribune, Labour Briefing and Weekly Worker. He also contributed the section of Zionism to Hodder & Stoughton's The Essentials of Philosophy & Ethics (2006) and most recently to the Anti-Semitism Wars (ed. Karl Sabbagh) on the Zionist anti-Semitism campaign in the Labour Party. He is a well known blogger and is currently working on a book Zionism During the Holocaust. Mr Greenstein is also an active trade unionist and a member of Brighton & Hove Trades Council, UNITE and UNISON.

Presumably he hates himself?

[Captain Willard]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I'd take a wild stab at no. 

 

This is the article from last year where she talks about getting death threats. I think the point people on here are trying to make us that she didn’t explicitly say “I’m not going to the Labour Party conference because of death threats from Labour Party members” I’ll accept she didn’t use those precise words but she’s not going to the conference that’s for sure. Maybe it’s just a coincidence but this is a clearly scared women who has previously been the victim of domestic abuse. It’s not a good look for Starmer not to be supporting her over this but he chose not to. 

 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/amp/ive-received-threats-but-will-not-be-silenced-235405/

[Creator Supreme]

I see Stronts entered right on queue!

[Duff Man]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Reeves is right, the days of using people for cheap labour are over, at last the Labour Party are reading the room. A Labour party that was born to fight for increasing workers pay and conditions in this country not for the benefit of a Hungarian coffee shop worker.

Whatever you think about free movement, the point is we now have a situation where the leaderships of both major parties are totally fine with bullshitting the public to get what they want, and a press who are largely onboard, too. That's not great.

[Red Phoenix]

Here's our future chancellor Reeves if Labour get elected and she keeps her position, from 2015 :

 

Quote

Rachel Reeves has received a fierce backlash after stating that Labour does not want to be seen as the party of the welfare state.

In an interview with the Guardian, the shadow work and pensions secretary laid out plans to slash the number of food banks operating in the UK if Labour comes to power. She said she felt it was a sign of "failed welfare state" that so many people in Britain were using them.

"We are not the party of people on benefits. We don’t want to be seen, and we're not, the party to represent those who are out of work," she said.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-says-labour-does-not-want-represent-people-out-work-10114614.html

 

More here where you also have : Labour will be tougher than Tories on benefits, promises new welfare chief

 

Capitalism is designed to have unemployment, Reeves will know this too. So she'd be a chancellor for capitalism (whilst pretending she's for the workers) but not those that feel the worst effects of it.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Captain Willard said:

This is the article from last year where she talks about getting death threats. I think the point people on here are trying to make us that she didn’t explicitly say “I’m not going to the Labour Party conference because of death threats from Labour Party members” I’ll accept she didn’t use those precise words but she’s not going to the conference that’s for sure. Maybe it’s just a coincidence but this is a clearly scared women who has previously been the victim of domestic abuse. It’s not a good look for Starmer not to be supporting her over this but he chose not to. 

 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/amp/ive-received-threats-but-will-not-be-silenced-235405/

If she's that concerned over a few idiots on twitter maybs the rough and tumble of politics may not be for her. 

 

Bar for the killing of Jo Cox by a right wing fanatic I'd say an Mps life is an awful lot safer than most professions, such as  secondry school teacher? Police officer? Probation officer, housing worker etc. 

 

Imo half the fuckers would benefit from a good old fashioned egg thrown straight to the head.

 

 

[Gnasher]

7 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Whatever you think about free movement, the point is we now have a situation where the leaderships of both major parties are totally fine with bullshitting the public to get what they want, and a press who are largely onboard, too. That's not great.

OK fair point, its not going great at all.

[Bjornebye]

18 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Presumably he hates himself?

He hates innocent people being slaughtered or bulldozed out of their own homes which of course makes him a huge anti-semite the bastard. 

[Bjornebye]

35 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

So what?

I'm merely pointing out that you are calling a jewish person an anti-semite. 

[Strontium]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

I'm merely pointing out that you are calling a jewish person an anti-semite. 

 

If the cap fits.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

48 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

He's Jewish.

 

Tony Greenstein is a Jewish anti-Zionist and a founding member of Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods. He is a long-standing anti-fascist activist and author of A History of Fighting Fascism in Brighton and the South Coast. Mr Greenstein has written for many publications including the Guardian's Comment is Free, the Brighton Argus and Brighton and Hove Independent, Tribune, Labour Briefing and Weekly Worker. He also contributed the section of Zionism to Hodder & Stoughton's The Essentials of Philosophy & Ethics (2006) and most recently to the Anti-Semitism Wars (ed. Karl Sabbagh) on the Zionist anti-Semitism campaign in the Labour Party. He is a well known blogger and is currently working on a book Zionism During the Holocaust. Mr Greenstein is also an active trade unionist and a member of Brighton & Hove Trades Council, UNITE and UNISON.

Sounds like a notorious anti-Semite to me.

[Strontium]

Dame Louise Ellman has rejoined the Labour Party.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

If the cap fits.

Nobody is defending him for manhandling the journalist, but I'm curious about his notorious anti-Semitism.

Is he as anti- Semitic as all the other Jews being expelled from Starmer's party?

[Strontium]

8 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Nobody is defending him for manhandling the journalist, but I'm curious about his notorious anti-Semitism.

Is he as anti- Semitic as all the other Jews being expelled from Starmer's party?

 

Notoriously so.

[sir roger]

8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Dame Louise Ellman has rejoined the Labour Party.

Some people are being thrown out the party for liking tweets about other parties , but we are readmitting somebody who actually joined another party ?

[Strontium]

Just now, sir roger said:

Some people are being thrown out the party for liking tweets about other parties , but we are readmitting somebody who actually joined another party ?

 

I don't think she did join anyone else, did she?

[sir roger]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I don't think she did join anyone else, did she?

Apologies , I thought she went Tinge.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Notoriously so.

OK.