Keir Starmer

[stringvest]

I can't believe I'm saying it, but the sort of shister Labour need is someone like a Derek Hatton with a posh accent and brains.  They just don't have anyone with charisma who is passionate, able to play Johnson at his own game, and won't frighten the horses.  These metro mayors are just dull career politicians - they're all artifice and no substance.  What happened to brainy, principled politicians?  Anywhere?  

[Red Phoenix]

17 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Unfortunately people need to forget Corbyn with regards to Labour 

 

When it comes to several of Corbyn's ideas/policies I think I have done, I'll always remember that at one point a Labour leader made me believe that things could genuinely get better for people in the UK though. It might not have been for long with all of the shit he faced but it was good when it happened.

 

I'll try to leave it there anyway before I get told to take it to the Corbyn thread.

[Jairzinho]

9 minutes ago, stringvest said:

I can't believe I'm saying it, but the sort of shister Labour need is someone like a Derek Hatton with a posh accent and brains.  They just don't have anyone with charisma who is passionate, able to play Johnson at his own game, and won't frighten the horses.  These metro mayors are just dull career politicians - they're all artifice and no substance.  What happened to brainy, principled politicians?  Anywhere?  

Labour have just made it even less likely that any will emerge.

[Harry's Lad]

I thought he spoke with some passion about a lot of things, health, care, law and order, education, taxation etc, things you would expect him to talk about and I'm interested to see how he plans to do these things once he's 'put some flesh on the bones'.

 

The heckling was a real low point, but I thought he remained dignified and dealt with it reasonably well, but there are huge divisions in the party which I don't like that need to be healed, but due to the depth of feeling, we're a long way from that.

 

I liked a lot of what he said to be honest, but that's not to say I'm completely in board with him.

 

I want to see him be completely ruthless with the Tories then perhaps we will see exactly what he's made of and whether he can actually lead the party into government.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Harry's Lad said:

I thought he spoke with some passion about a lot of things, health, care, law and order, education, taxation etc, things you would expect him to talk about and I'm interested to see how he plans to do these things once he's 'put some flesh on the bones'.

 

The heckling was a real low point, but I thought he remained dignified and dealt with it reasonably well, but there are huge divisions in the party which I don't like that need to be healed, but due to the depth of feeling, we're a long way from that.

 

I liked a lot of what he said to be honest, but that's not to say I'm completely in board with him.

 

I want to see him be completely ruthless with the Tories then perhaps we will see exactly what he's made of and whether he can actually lead the party into government.

He could have gone for their throats a bit more and brought up Kendrick, PPE contracts, Patel etc but didn't. He did come across well but a fucking long way to go. 

[Harry's Lad]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

He could have gone for their throats a bit more and brought up Kendrick, PPE contracts, Patel etc but didn't. He did come across well but a fucking long way to go. 

Couldn't agree more.

By really going after them, he might be able to get more people on board with his ideas because let's face it, there is nothing more important than booting the Tories out of power.

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Harry's Lad said:

Couldn't agree more.

By really going after them, he might be able to get more people on board with his ideas because let's face it, there is nothing more important than booting the Tories out of power.

 

 

 

Exactly. Apart from a few retweeted videos, all Kuntsberg has tweeted is about the heckling the fucking cunt 

[Harry's Lad]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Exactly. Apart from a few retweeted videos, all Kuntsberg has tweeted is about the heckling the fucking cunt 

Quelle surprise. 

The BBC political correspondent showing her bias.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

The woman who was heckling is a Socialist Workers Party member who stood against a Labour member at recent election and shouldn't have been allowed in.

 

Skullduggery!

 

It was Carole from Big Brother series 8.

[YorkshireRed]

The heckling was the first thing mentioned after the speech was finished and the first thing they asked Angela Rayner about.

 

It happened, fine to address it, but it didn’t need to be the primary takeaway from what was a decent performance from Keir. 
 

Of course, I’d be living in cloud cuckoo land if I ever thought it wouldn’t be. 

[Bruce Spanner]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It was Carole from Big Brother series 8.

 

If she looked like this she could heckle my performance across all sectors, fnar! 
 

I have no idea about big brother, but she was a SWP member and candidate. 

[Strontium]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

If she looked like this she could heckle my performance across all sectors, fnar! 
 

I have no idea about big brother, but she was a SWP member and candidate. 

 

Definitely the wrong Carol.

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Definitely the wrong Carol.

I know, that was the joke…

[Captain Willard]

I thought it was ok although too long and too many mentions of his Dad. The heckling from a crazy eyed Momentum loon was just a news friendly gift to the media and I think he needed a Kinnock moment to knock that off the news agenda. The Torys will be happy with that, could have been a lot worse for them though I think the Boris is a trivial man will hit home. 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Captain Willard said:

I thought it was ok although too long and too many mentions of his Dad. The heckling from a crazy eyed Momentum loon was just a news friendly gift to the media and I think he needed a Kinnock moment to knock that off the news agenda. The Torys will be happy with that, could have been a lot worse for them though I think the Boris is a trivial man will hit home. 

Hit home to who? Most tories wont have bothered watching and the mass media are hardly gonna report it. 

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

I know, that was the joke…

 

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

She’s called Carol and appeared in BB8 America.

 

She’s hot, the commie irritant isn’t. 
 

I used the hot one to make an awful double entendre.

 

I am regretting all the decisions I made between 16:27:35 pm today and now, I hope you’re happy!  

[Captain Willard]

7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Hit home to who? Most tories wont have bothered watching and the mass media are hardly gonna report it. 

I think its an point he's weak on. Turn the maverick charm into a character flaw. He's is losing popularity in the Tory party much faster than he is in the Country. They won't heckle him from the floor but he's really not popular with the grass roots of the party. 

[skend04]

The majority of grass root Tories are just the old Kippers and BNP now. Only Farage satisfies them loons, that's why they voted in the current racist blancmange. The nearest thing to Nige.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, skend04 said:

The majority of grass root Tories are just the old Kippers and BNP now. Only Farage satisfies them loons, that's why they voted in the current racist blancmange. The nearest thing to Nige.

Up and down, I'm up the wall,
I'm up the bloody tree. 

[A Red]

I think he spoke very well and addressed the issues, a good performance. I didn't watch, listen or read anything about it to be fair.

[Captain Howdy]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Up and down, I'm up the wall,
I'm up the bloody tree. 

[Harry's Lad]

2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Up and down, I'm up the wall,
I'm up the bloody tree. 

Blind hope, blind vision more like.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Nice of the BBC headline that Corbyn is at the Labour event. 

A Labour Party member at a Labour conference?

 

Whatever next!

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Captain Willard said:

 too many mentions of his Dad.

This line is a belter, though.