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18 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

Hmmmm. It is a tough one. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/17/chris-whitty-v-tory-mp-joy-morrissey-who-to-believe-on-covid?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Chris Whitty v Tory MP Joy Morrissey: who to believe on Covid?

 

Conservative MPs have been taking out their frustration on England’s chief medical officer, Chris Whitty, for what they see as his promotion of “lockdown by stealth”. Chief among them is Joy Morrissey, who said Whitty should “defer” to politicians like her.

 

In a now deleted tweet, Morrissey, who is on the government payroll as a parliamentary aide, said: “Perhaps the covid unelected public health spokesperson should defer to what our ELECTED members of parliament and the prime minister have decided. I know it’s difficult to remember but this is not how democracy works. This is not a public health socialist state.”

 

So who should the public trust on the pandemic – the chief medical officer or the MP for Beaconsfield? Their respective CVs may offer a clue.

 

Prof Chris Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci

 

Age: 55.

 

Occupation: chief medical officer for England and practising NHS consultant physician.

 

Previous jobs: acting chief scientific adviser; director of research at the Department for International Development; chief scientific adviser to the Department of Health; head of the National Institute for Health Research Education; consultant physician at University College London hospitals; professor of public and international health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

 

Education: doctorate in medical science from Oxford; two diplomas, in tropical medicine and hygiene, and economics; three master’s degrees, in epidemiology, medical law and business administration.

Awards: Companion of the Order of Bath; fellow of the Academy of Medical Science; honorary doctorate for medical work in the community from the University of Plymouth.

 

What people say about him: Prof David Mabey, an infectious disease specialist at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine says: “Chris is a polymath. He is really extraordinary. Since I’ve known him he’s done a diploma in economics, a degree in law and an MBA in his spare time. And in terms of his research, he covers all the disciplines: clinical medicine, epidemiology, health economics, social science. That’s really what makes him unique. He is the best man for the job, we are extremely lucky to have him.”

 

Joy Morrissey MP

 

Age: 40.

 

Occupation: member of parliament for Beaconsfield and parliamentary private secretary to the justice secretary, Dominic Raab.

 

Previous jobs: Ealing councillor; actor including a role in a “bonkfest” TV movie called Geek Mythology, about a man who acquires a magical statue that makes him irresistible to women.

 

Education: master’s degree in European social policy from the London School of Economics.

 

Awards: shortlisted for the Conservative London mayoral candidacy in 2021 but beaten by Shaun Bailey.

 

What people say about her: The Financial Times said she was a “passionate Brexiteer motivated by social injustice”. Morrissey has said of herself: “I don’t really care that much what people think, particularly if I think I’m right.” Her campaign to offer all homes and businesses a portrait of the Queen was dismissed as “Stalinist”.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/06/24/tory-mp-joy-morrissey-starts-campaign-to-get-portrait-of-queen-in-every-home-14823652/amp/

 

Can.you imagine the type of shenanigans the british monarchist society get upto?

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4 hours ago, Boss said:

Omicron is everywhere. The government won't lock the country down though because the Christmas economy is more important to them than thousands of peoples lives.

Omicrom is not going to kill thousands. Lockdown would be unwise. People who are vaccinated would have some discomfort. Un vaccinated people obviously will be at risk.

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15 minutes ago, CapeRed said:

Omicrom is not going to kill thousands. Lockdown would be unwise. People who are vaccinated would have some discomfort. Un vaccinated people obviously will be at risk.

 

We don't know that for certain, that's just based on preliminary reports from South Africa. It's harder to transmit the virus over there because of the climate. We've got 93,000 new cases and it's doubling every two days. It will run through the whole population like the plague if we don't lock the country down right now. 

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7 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

No need to be sorry mate, it's not a bad thing at all. Another step on my road to recovery hopefully.

Good on you mate. Hope you get back to and beyond your 100%.

 

Whats the lingering effects you are battling with? Mad that it’s so chronic as to stick around a year and counting. Fucking weird virus.

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16 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

We don't know that for certain, that's just based on preliminary reports from South Africa. It's harder to transmit the virus over there because of the climate. We've got 93,000 new cases and it's doubling every two days. It will run through the whole population like the plague if we don't lock the country down right now. 

What’s the update on info from SA now? Their deaths still don’t seem to be increasing even though they’re having record cases too

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9 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

You can take them and stop eating them immediately, the benefits don't follow immediately, the accumulated health issues that make you more susceptible don't disappear immediately (if they disappear at all).

 

Making the population healthier should be a priority for any government going forward in preparation for future events, it should have been a priority 5, 10, 15 years ago. But let's not pretend that taking a few multivitamins and ordering less from just eat as a direct response to Corona virus would have dramatically cut the number of deaths or serious symptoms and let's not pretend that it's a valid alternative to vaccination(whether you intentionally play down the benefit of vaccines or not).

Yep. 

 

There should be outdoor, fenced sports courts everywhere.  

The taxes on fags and booze should be used to go straight back into community sports facilities.  

 

Exercising is a habit, and a generation of kids are fucked if we don't intervene. 

 

You can't just kick a ball around on the road anymore.  

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Pfizer have said that their two shot vaccine dose for 2 to 5 year olds has shown inadequate results and they will have to seek approval for a three dose treatment instead. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/17/world/covid-omicron-vaccines

 

It seems like we've started to hit a patch of negative news regarding Covid, of late. Apart from antiviral treatment that was announced. 

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39 minutes ago, Belarus said:

Good on you mate. Hope you get back to and beyond your 100%.

 

Whats the lingering effects you are battling with? Mad that it’s so chronic as to stick around a year and counting. Fucking weird virus.

Exhaustion, bad eye sight, pain in left lung, unable to take a full breath, brain fog.

 

Still quite a bit better than this time last year!

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1 hour ago, Belarus said:

What’s the update on info from SA now? Their deaths still don’t seem to be increasing even though they’re having record cases too

 

Still the same. Around 1.7% admitted to hospital. I think CapeRed is right actually. Maybe I was being a bit reactionary there. 

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53 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Exhaustion, bad eye sight, pain in left lung, unable to take a full breath, brain fog.

 

Still quite a bit better than this time last year!

Doesn’t sound ideal mate. Hoping you get sorted now - there’s so much constant learning and focus on it now, that they will be understanding more and quickly 

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