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[aRdja]

2 hours ago, an tha said:

Every single signing is different - where they have been before etc has little and often no difference on what might follow when they move....succes or failure at one place/in one league etc is no real indicator of how a player might perform elsewhere - even in same league.

 

Thierry Henry went from Monaco to Juventus and simply did not settle and quickly left....look at what he then did at Arsenal.

 

Our very own Ian Rush just couldn't settle in Italian footy.

 

Patrick Viera couldn't get a game at Milan, walked into Arsenal's team the next season and had a 10 year career there and became a legend....

 

Kante came from France and look at what he has done and how quickly he did it - he went from Caen to leading Leicester to the PL title!

 

And there are many, many other examples - plus examples like Morientes with us on other side of coin.

 

There is a myriad of things that mean a player does or does not do business at one place and not at another and vice versa - it is also way too early to make definitive judgements on Fabinho or Keita - although i am sure we all wish both had settled as quickly as say Torreira has at Arsenal.

 

Hopefully they both will soon.

Serie A was far better than the PL back then. Premier League is the best league in the world at the moment, with La Liga being close second...but all other leagues are pretty rubbish at the moment.

[moof]

3 hours ago, aRdja said:

Of course, but it raises an interesting question I thought.. in light of his and Keita’s early season struggles, would we have better off letting them sign for the mid-table teams (like Southampton), see if they could cut it in the premier league?  Once they prove themselves, then we come in and sign then, albeit at a premium...

Jesus, mate 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, moof said:

Jesus, mate 

No chance City will sell him to us; particularly now he's proved himself in this league.

[Josef Svejk]

32 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Serie A was far better than the PL back then. Premier League is the best league in the world at the moment, with La Liga being close second...but all other leagues are pretty rubbish at the moment.

When English clubs dominate European competitions, you might have some basis for that claim. That's without comparing the difference between the best and worst clubs in the respective leagues at the moment...

[Nolongerathletic]

28 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Serie A was far better than the PL back then. Premier League is the best league in the world at the moment, with La Liga being close second...but all other leagues are pretty rubbish at the moment.

Premier League best in the world...?

 

30 seconds of Huddersfield Fulham last night was an excellent opportunity to take up a new hobby i.e. sticking pins in the eyes! I'd go so far as to say, apart from Liverpool/City/Arsenal rest are not really worth watching, exceptions are players like Eriksen and Hazard! I guess the PL can be exciting, but for the most part I find many of the other leagues easier on the eye technically. 

[Grinch]

[an tha]

54 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Serie A was far better than the PL back then. Premier League is the best league in the world at the moment, with La Liga being close second...but all other leagues are pretty rubbish at the moment.

PL is so good that it has more unbeaten teams in it at moment than la liga, bundesliga and serie a put together.

[Em City]

In what universe would Keita have signed for Southampton?

 

Unless 'Southampton' is aRdja talk for Bayern Munich or Barcelona. That particular piece of Premier League exceptionalism would make Paul Merson blush.

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

Serie A was far better than the PL back then. Premier League is the best league in the world at the moment, with La Liga being close second...but all other leagues are pretty rubbish at the moment.

Please stop.

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Em City said:

In what universe would Keita have signed for Southampton?

 

Unless 'Southampton' is aRdja talk for Bayern Munich or Barcelona. That particular piece of Premier League exceptionalism would make Paul Merson blush.

Yeah I accept that the scenario I put forward probably wasn’t realistic, but let’s take Fabinho... would we have been better off picking up Ndidi last summer? or waited until next summer and we could have a go at Lerma who’s looking very impressive for Bournemouth?

[aRdja]

16 minutes ago, an tha said:

PL is so good that it has more unbeaten teams in it at moment than la liga, bundesliga and serie a put together.

Loads of PL misfits and/or youngsters are starring in Europe; Reiss Nelson, Thauvin, Gnabry, Sancho, Depay, Gervinho... that’s just off the top of my head.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

You know more than Klopp now. 

[Em City]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

Yeah I accept that the scenario I put forward probably wasn’t realistic, but let’s take Fabinho... would we have been better off picking up Ndidi last summer? or waited until next summer and we could have a go at Lerma who’s looking very impressive for Bournemouth?

 

Not really. N'didi would have cost the same, if not more, without having the pedigree that Fabinho comes with, as well as playing in a side with a completely different style to us.

 

I admittedly only saw flashes of Lerma on Saturday but looked pretty rubbish to me. I'll reserve judgment on him in the time being.

[an tha]

6 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Loads of PL misfits and/or youngsters are starring in Europe; Reiss Nelson, Thauvin, Gnabry, Sancho, Depay, Gervinho... that’s just off the top of my head.

For me the debate about the perceived strengths of the leagues is another story really to the main point here

[Tony Moanero]

52 minutes ago, Grinch said:

Give over. aRdja is sound. He’s not a troll, he just has different opinions to others/most on here.

[Grinch]

Just now, Tony Moanero said:

Giver over. aRdja is sound, he’a Not a troll, he just has different opinions to others/most in here.

 

Nonsense, he's not a complete and utter fucking moron.   Just a boring little stuck record wum.

[Tony Moanero]

1 minute ago, Grinch said:

 

Nonsense, he's not a complete and utter fucking moron.   Just a boring little stuck record wum.

As I said, give over. You banging on about him being a troll is just as boring.

[Grinch]

1 minute ago, Tony Moanero said:

As i said, give over. 

 

No.

[Tony Moanero]

10 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

No.

Sound, do as you please.

 

Loads of posters are like stuck records. People going on and on about international

footy, how shit the smaller teams in the Premier League are, FSG and transfer budgets, me about the 80s, etc. Being boring is boss.

[aRdja]

7 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

Nonsense, he's not a complete and utter fucking moron.   Just a boring little stuck record wum.

No one is forcing you to get involved in this discussion.. you could go back to negging all my posts, that’d be more civil. Also feel free to put me on ignore if my views offend you that much mate.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

11 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Give over. aRdja is sound. He’s not a troll, he just has different opinions to others/most on here.

 Not too sure to be honest Tone. Takes me back to the not so halcyon days of JP.

[Grinch]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

No one is forcing you to get involved in this discussion.. you could go back to negging all my posts, that’d be more civil. Also feel free to put me on ignore if my views offend you that much mate.

 

Ignore you?  So you can keep negging very old posts of mine to try an get a reaction on days I've not even posted, stop your little whiny victim crying when you're an attention seeking bellend, every single post you make has something thrown in there to get a reaction on here.

 

It's fucking old and boring, we all talk shite, you just scream for attention.

 

[Tony Moanero]

2 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

 Not too sure to be honest Tone. Takes me back to the not so halcyon days of JP.

Nah, that’s not how I see it, mate.

[Tony Moanero]

Moaning about negs is childish.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

2 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Nah, that’s not how I see it, mate.

We see things differently for once seemingly. No problem.