Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Strontium]

5 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Come on Stronts, he does accept the Jewish state has a right to exist. You know this. 

 

Come on, there were videos circulating before the election, and they weren't that old, of him complaining that the BBC and the rest of the media was biased in favour of Israel's existence. It's an odd line to take for someone who has no problem with their existence.

[moof]

It’s going to be awesome to watch stronts reposition himself as a staunch defender of Palestinian rights because of the new Lib Dem leader, and how he squares that with his pro Israel stance 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Come on, there were videos circulating before the election, and they weren't that old, of him complaining that the BBC and the rest of the media was biased in favour of Israel's existence. It's an odd line to take for someone who has no problem with their existence.

Corbyn openly proposed for a two state solution SD.

[cloggypop]

12 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Netanyahu could surprise a few people.

I'm hearing he's available 

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, moof said:

It’s going to be awesome to watch stronts reposition himself as a staunch defender of Palestinian rights because of the new Lib Dem leader, and how he squares that with his pro Israel stance 

 

No repositioning required. As Layla says: "You can be pro-Palestinian without being antisemitic". Not once have I defended the theft of land by Israel or anything like that, you're welcome to search through my entire posting history.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Come on, there were videos circulating before the election, and they weren't that old, of him complaining that the BBC and the rest of the media was biased in favour of Israel's existence. It's an odd line to take for someone who has no problem with their existence.

Have you got the evidence for this?

 

From all that I have seen he has questioned how our media does not challenge Israel more in their reporting. 

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Come on, there were videos circulating before the election, and they weren't that old, of him complaining that the BBC and the rest of the media was biased in favour of Israel's existence. It's an odd line to take for someone who has no problem with their existence.

The media are in favour of Israel. Go forbid anyone condemns their murderous ways. 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Have you got the evidence for this?

 

From all that I have seen he has questioned how our media does not challenge Israel more in their reporting. 

Yep. 

 

GreenDay is on a role. 

[Anubis]

24 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Its wrong that I am scared to say what I actually think is true. And its not anti-semitic at all but will be painted that way. Its a fucking fact. 

Don’t be. I’ll be fucked if I’m going to let any twat stop me from speaking my mind just by trying to throw a label at me.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Don’t be. I’ll be fucked if I’m going to let any twat stop me from speaking my mind just by trying to throw a label at me.

Its not worth it. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I'm sure she'll carry her share of the "blame" for winning an extra 1.3 million votes as it is, without us having to do anything.

I wouldn't be using that as a banner of pride SD. I'd bet a good percentage of that 1.3m will be people who usually vote Labour but couldn't this time because of JC.

[ZonkoVille77]

I just have no time for those who have weaponised their Jewish identity. Every single one of them is an epic cunt. 

[moof]

25 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

No repositioning required. As Layla says: "You can be pro-Palestinian without being antisemitic". Not once have I defended the theft of land by Israel or anything like that, you're welcome to search through my entire posting history.

No need. I have a strong working memory, you can cut the posturing. 

[Strontium]

Just now, moof said:

No need. I have a strong working memory, you can cut the posturing. 

 

In that case, why don't you remember some posts for me, and everyone else here.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, moof said:

No need. I have a strong working memory, you can cut the posturing. 

He has inadvertently done it today. Ignore him, he is a worthless piece of shit on the GF. 

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

He has inadvertently done it today. Ignore him, he is a worthless piece of shit on the GF. 

Yep. It’s going to be fun to watch, is all. We all know the score 

[Spy Bee]

I didn't realise Laura Pidcock had lost her seat. What the fuck is wrong with people?

 

I'm going to make a concerted effort to avoid politics until 2020!

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

I didn't realise Laura Pidcock had lost her seat. What the fuck is wrong with people?

 

I'm going to make a concerted effort to avoid politics until 2020!

For the best mate. Last thing your mum needs is some weird cunt panting down the phone to her when she is trying to wrap your socks. 

[moof]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

He has inadvertently done it today. Ignore him, he is a worthless piece of shit on the GF. 

As an aside, if you’re ever bored, searching stronty’s name alongside “Gaza” is pretty amusing. Just to put this new principled pro Palestinian stance into context. 
 

ah well, it’s not really important considering recent events. 

[Rico1304]

 

[Scooby Dudek]

58 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

That’s not really fair mate. Obviously there are red lines, but the best position to influence anything in that conflict, to help the Palestinians, is when you’re in government. The priority for the Labour Party should always be the people they’re representing. I just think at the moment, it’s very toxic on that front, and one ‘low-hanging fruit’ to immediately stop the furore, is to pick a leader who isn’t campaigning as openly for Palestinian rights at the same time as trying to win an election. I don’t know... maybe I’m chatting shit.

I wouldn't say chatting shit as such. 

I don't think he is campaigning openly as such. 

 

He has long history as we all know and his support for Palestine has been amongst it, as has his support for stop the war and the "would you blow up the world" question he got repeatedly asked in 2017. 

 

The blow up question got asked again, as we know Jo was actively looking forward to it, but the Greens, Plyd and SNP were actively against, hence it couldn't gain the traction of Corbyn being a extreme nutcase, when the majority of the panel held the same view. 

 

If antisemitism had not gained traction and the not wanting to kill millions had, that would have been the focus of the smears. They went with some of the not good for the security of the country, but would have really focused their attacks if they thought it would work against him. 

 

My long winded point being, the antisemitism obviously worked better amongst the focus groups, so that is what they went with repeatedly. If they didn't think it was working they would have moved on to the next smear in the list. 

 

The issue/problem with get someone from the LFI or someone without his history is it is irrelevant, imo, as if there is nothing to attack the person they will make something up. Then when you say it is rubbish, you are attacked for denying the issue. 

 

I repeat it often but let us not forget that Ed Milibands dad was "The man who hated Britain", basically because his son wanted to impose a two year price cap on energy companies. It was total bollocks of cause but it was brought and ran with, it didn't gain traction so they moved on to next next devastating attack of he eats a bacon butty funny. 

 

 

Maureen Lipman,

despite being a life long Labour supporter couldn't vote for Corbyn because of his views.

 

Maureen Lipman,

despite being a life long Labour supporter couldn't vote for Miliband because of his views. 

 

In an article in Standpoint magazine, Ms Lipman condemned Mr Miliband for supporting a House of Commons motion to recognise Palestine as a state.

 

 

If only Miliband had not been campaigning openly for Palestinian rights.

 

 

 

 

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, moof said:

As an aside, if you’re ever bored, searching stronty’s name alongside “Gaza” is pretty amusing. Just to put this new principled pro Palestinian stance into context.

 

Yes, I would urge everyone to do this if they have time. In fact, I've done the search for you and you can just click below. Then try to tell me my stance has altered over the years.

 

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/search/&q=gaza&author=Strontium Dog™

[moof]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Yes, I would urge everyone to do this if they have time. In fact, I've done the search for you and you can just click below. Then try to tell me my stance has altered over the years.

 

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/search/&q=gaza&author=Strontium Dog™

Are you relying on the fact that nobody is going to click that to save your face, here? Just bizarre behaviour. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Yes, I would urge everyone to do this if they have time. In fact, I've done the search for you and you can just click below. Then try to tell me my stance has altered over the years.

 

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/search/&q=gaza&author=Strontium Dog™

No-ones arsed lad. You know what you did. 

[Strontium]

Just now, moof said:

Are you relying on the fact that nobody is going to click that to save your face, here? Just bizarre behaviour. 

 

No, I'm fervently hoping people do click on it. I wouldn't have saved them the effort of going to the search function etc if I didn't want them to look.