Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[moof]

11 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

So Labour just stick with him and lose?

I think they can win with him, obviously 

[Strontium]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Ok we were talking about Corbyn. But ok. So the 3 new cases this week since Monday - go. 

 

- Michael Morgan (JVL member)

- Apsana Begum (Labour candidate in Poplar & Limehouse)

- Matthew Collings (Labour candidate in SW Norfolk, now suspended)

- Gerry Beckett (Labour member in Liverpool Riverside)

 

You asked for 3, ok, I cheated by giving you 4, I could find more, but I have other things to do with my life than to do your research for you.

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

- Michael Morgan (JVL member)

- Apsana Begum (Labour candidate in Poplar & Limehouse)

- Matthew Collings (Labour candidate in SW Norfolk, now suspended)

- Gerry Beckett (Labour member in Liverpool Riverside)

 

You asked for 3, ok, I cheated by giving you 4, I could find more, but I have other things to do with my life than to do your research for you.

This is a pisstake right? 

[Strontium]

You asked, I delivered. Not sure where the piss is.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

You asked, I delivered. Not sure where the piss is.

You haven't delivered. You said "literally everyday". Show me the sources that these have happened or only come to light in the last 3 days. 

[Strontium]

8 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You haven't delivered. You said "literally everyday". Show me the sources that these have happened or only come to light in the last 3 days. 

 

Good grief, are you incapable of reading dates on articles and tweets?

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Good grief, are you incapable of reading dates on articles and tweets?

I'm more than capable and have, I just want you to post your sources on here. 

[Strontium]

Did you try clicking on the links?

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Did you try clicking on the links?

Publish your sources 

[Strontium]

I don't understand what more you want.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, moof said:

I think they can win with him, obviously 

Out of interest, would you be happy for him to stay beyond this election if he doesn’t win. A mate of mine said he would, so wondered if it was a widespread thought. 

[sir roger]

Has anybody suggested there is no anti-Semitism at all in the Labour party ?

 

If complaints have been made against these people, are you suggesting that investigations have deliberately not / will deliberately not be launched in respect of these ? Is Corbyn in cahoots with them ?

 

I , and most normal Labour supporters on here , would support getting rid of people proven to have views such as these, which seems to be the difference between us & you who appears to be happy to disappear up your own arsehole to twist facts if people of your party or religion are called into question. 

 

 

[Duff Man]

And of course, if you went scouring the Facebook pages of members of other parties, you definitely wouldn't find similar stuff. It really is the weakest fucking shit to throw at a leadership. It'd only be a valid criticism if fuck all was being done about it, a la the Tories with their Islamophobia problem.

[Megadrive Man]

9 hours ago, JohnnyH said:

Nope.  I'm just giving an example of usual Labour voters who aren't voting Labour because of the leader and asking is it worth considering changing the leader to give Labour the best possible chance of a win?

 

I see that cunt Rachel Riley is really pushing the "a vote for Corbyn is a vote for racism" line and the sad thing is loads of people who may have voted for Labour now won't because of that also. 

 

This election is the biggest in a lifetime considering what could happen if Johnson wins - so I'm asking is it worth it to keep someone who seems to have virtually no chance of winning out of some loyalty or whatever, or if it would be better to change now and give Labour a better chance?

So who are they voting for then?

 

I presume it's the green party or maybe snp because you could easily spin the line about not voting for a party because of its leader about any of the other parties?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

56 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Out of interest, would you be happy for him to stay beyond this election if he doesn’t win. A mate of mine said he would, so wondered if it was a widespread thought. 

I'm a Corbyn fan and think he could pull something dramatic off in the upcoming election. Just could. Not will. 

 

But, if he doesn't, particularly if we get a Tory majority government, I think he can't stay on as leader. However, I definitely want the party to stick closely to the direction it's followed up until now. 

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I don't understand what more you want.

You do you just won’t because you know you are full of shit just like the lies and slander so often found in the Jewish Chronicle. 

 

Im all for ridding the Labour Party of any anti-semites but you are not being genuine in proving you aren’t a liar here SD. Again. 

[Strontium]

I've given you links to screenshots of things people have said and shared, I can't conceive of what more you want, blood and sperm samples maybe, who the actual fuck knows.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'm talking about examples of antisemitism in Labour. New cases every day.

 

What do you mean by "new cases"?

 

Is it new allegations  (the vast majority of which turn out to be false, unfounded or not actually Labour Party members)?

Or is it new cases of people being found guilty and kicked out  - which is evidence of the party dealing with the issue. (Evidence which is missing from other parties, although anti-Semitism is certainly no less prevalent there.)

[AngryOfTuebrook]

9 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

This is a pisstake right? 

Apparently not.

 

Apparently our "freedom lover" thinks that an accusation is evidence of guilt when it comes to lefties.

[Captain Turdseye]

9 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

- Matthew Collings (Labour candidate in SW Norfolk, now suspended)

 

He sounds fucking disgraceful. 

[aRdja]

8 hours ago, Duff Man said:

And of course, if you went scouring the Facebook pages of members of other parties, you definitely wouldn't find similar stuff. It really is the weakest fucking shit to throw at a leadership. It'd only be a valid criticism if fuck all was being done about it, a la the Tories with their Islamophobia problem.

If you listen to the right, Jeremy Corbyn is:

1. A rabid anti-semite

2. An enemy of the hindus

3. An enemy of the muslims

4. A Russian spy

5. An ISIS supporter

6. IRA

7. The Warrington bombing mastermind

The make him out to be the worst super-villain, it’s very funny.

[Mudface]

57 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

He sounds fucking disgraceful. 

Quite. There's nothing in the article that says what he did, unless I've missed something?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

58 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

He sounds fucking disgraceful. 

Mr Collings, who lives in Northwold with his wife Emma Biggs, also an artist, said he had not been told who had made the complaint or the specific allegation.

He said: "In these cases, you don't learn what it is until the investigation gets under way. And those investigations can take a long time to be completed, so I will not be able to stand.

 

Apparently he's a rabid anti-Semite, according to cast-iron evidence that Captain Freedom is about to produce...

 

 

any...

 

 

minute...

 

 

now...

[Mudface]

Maybe he posted that Countdown is shit, the monster.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

10 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

- Michael Morgan (JVL member)

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/the-story-behind-the-guardians-deleted-letter-of-jewish-support-for-chris-williamson/

 

It's really not clear whether Morgan is a member of JVL at all.  All I can find linking him to JVL (the only organisation whose members have to be both Jewish and Labour members) are things like this, intended to discredit JVL.