Paris shootings

[Jairzinho]

It sounds like you have issues with the quality of the analysis more than anything, which I don't necessarily disagree with.

 

The mere fact that we're having this discussion proves that it's not ignorance.

 

The whole situation (terrorism, religion etc) is so complex that people don't feel as if they're in any position to do much about it, is my general view. You can call it ignorance but I think that's being unfair, personally.

 

As I said in my first post I didn't mean everyone, and I certainly didn't mean you. But I'd suggest you might not be typical. We're having this conversation, but I'm not sure that'll be the case for most of the people on Facebook that have changed their picture. It's just a thing to do on Facebook. 

 

I think if people were aware enough that they didn't know much, and they cared, then they'd do something about it. I'd love to be as optimistic as you are here, I really would.

[Gnasher]

Oh no it fucking well isn't.

 

https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/665807478060392448

That's fucking brilliant.

[dennis tooth]

The one good thing to come out of the Iraq war is it finally stopped us flooding the middle east with British made weapons.

Oh fuck..http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/philip-hammond-says-he-wants-to-sell-even-more-weapons-to-saudi-arabia-a6730066.html

Bae is set to create 500 new jobs gushes the news

[dennis tooth]

Dennis, I'm all out neg, time to take the meds kid.

You need to remember to keep your powder dry then dont you, had you taken your anti althzeimers meds maybe you wouldnt have forgotten.

[Brownie]

As I said in my first post I didn't mean everyone, and I certainly didn't mean you. But I'd suggest you might not be typical. We're having this conversation, but I'm not sure that'll be the case for most of the people on Facebook that have changed their picture. It's just a thing to do on Facebook.

 

I think if people were aware enough that they didn't know much, and they cared, then they'd do something about it. I'd love to be as optimistic as you are here, I really would.

Believe me mate, i'm as cynical and pessimistic as they come! I do, however, choose to believe that people are intrinsically "good". Where they see injustice or hardship they'll try to help or at least display sympathy, empathy etc and I see the French flag filter thing as merely that.

 

The key is in the "seeing" bit and that's where the media comes in. People aren't necessarily ignorant by default or on purpose, a lot of it comes down to the media (although as I say I still think that shared cultures and proximity will always have an impact).

 

It's a fucked up world mate. If we spent all of our time thinking about that fact then life wouldn't be worth living.

[Jairzinho]

Believe me mate, i'm as cynical and pessimistic as they come! I do, however, choose to believe that people are intrinsically "good". Where they see injustice or hardship they'll try to help or at least display sympathy, empathy etc and I see the French flag filter thing as merely that.

 

The key is in the "seeing" bit and that's where the media comes in. People aren't necessarily ignorant by default or on purpose, a lot of it comes down to the media (although as I say I still think that shared cultures and proximity will always have an impact).

 

It's a fucked up world mate. If we spent all of our time thinking about that fact then life wouldn't be worth living.

 

Yeah, I certainly agree with that. Both on people being intrinsically good and the media doing it's best to change that. 

 

I just think that if more people thought about just how fucked the world is a little bit more then we'd have more chance of doing something about it.

 

I do think we've made small steps since Corbyn was elected (or actually just before). The fact a quarter of a million people voted for him despite a truly hateful campaign against him from the entirety of the media is a positive. People are distrusting the mainstream media more, which is definitely a good thing.

[Rico1304]

You need to remember to keep your powder dry then dont you, had you taken your anti althzeimers meds maybe you wouldnt have forgotten.

Clown!!!!

 

How about we test your amazing idea about voting and ask the public if we should bomb Syria and close all our borders?

[KMD7]

Oh no it fucking well isn't.

 

https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/665807478060392448

'kinell!!

[Rico1304]

You need to remember to keep your powder dry then dont you, had you taken your anti althzeimers meds maybe you wouldnt have forgotten.

Clown!!!!

 

How about we test your amazing idea about voting and ask the public if we should bomb Syria and close all our borders?

[Carvalho Diablo]

[VladimirIlyich]

If I was expecting a balanced report on the Paris massacre,the Lebanon massacre,terrorism in general or religion being used to foster support for murders of innocent people Facebook is NOT the place I would go to get it. In fact its why I avoid Social Media unless I simply need to.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Unfortunately too many people take things at face value, they can't think for themselves and need the supposed safety net for everything. They go along with shit like the snoopers charter as they truly believe it is for their own personal safety. 

 

No surprises Rico negged this post, did I hit a nerve you wannabe middle class Tory cunt? 

[Brownie]

If I was expecting a balanced report on the Paris massacre,the Lebanon massacre,terrorism in general or religion being used to foster support for murders of innocent people Facebook is NOT the place I would go to get it. In fact its why I avoid Social Media unless I simply need to.

But why do you expect to see that in the first place? Do you reckon that Facebook users in and around Lebanon are talking about Paris as much as their own tragedy?

[SasaS]

If I was expecting a balanced report on the Paris massacre,the Lebanon massacre,terrorism in general or religion being used to foster support for murders of innocent people Facebook is NOT the place I would go to get it. In fact its why I avoid Social Media unless I simply need to.

 

Why not? You just need to follow the right people.

[dennis tooth]

Clown!!!!

How about we test your amazing idea about voting and ask the public if we should bomb Syria and close all our borders?

Well given, one, we are already bombing syria, (didnt work), and the only attacker Ive seen confirmed an identity of, was from south paris Im not sure closing borders will help either your point or the bullet riddled bodies.

I think on both counts your motions would not pass but youd be free to put your solutions up for voting on, from your poor analysis which appears to have backtracked from muslims are the problem to religion being the problem, to bombing syria or closing borders being some sort of solution, needs practice, but you dont live in a democracy which is probably why you are a bit crap at saying anything that isnt quickly whittled down to nothingness by the lightest scrutiny of others.

[dennis tooth]

Bullshit, some of the attackers will be French too, will you be treating the population of France in the same disdain you would immigrants/refugees?

 

Wasn't one of the Syrian passports proven to be fake? or both even?

Hes always wrong. Set your watch.

[Rico1304]

 

 

Im surprised your cousin at GCHQ didn't tell you about this before it happened.

[JohnnyH]

Thats not even him is it

Nope. He's confirmed its not.

[dennis tooth]

But why do you expect to see that in the first place? Do you reckon that Facebook users in and around Lebanon are talking about Paris as much as their own tragedy?

No, thats the point isnt it though, the media causes this downgrading of victims in order to whip up support for more wars and bombings of third world countries which will lead us back to terrorist attacks. Im pretty sure people who get bombed and shot a lot will sympathise with our victims, since we dont get bombed and shot as much we dont tend to sympathise with their victims so much. Its ok if it happens to them but not us, e.i hypocrits, a term coined by jesus.

[JohnnyH]

[dennis tooth]

Im surprised your cousin at GCHQ didn't tell you about this before it happened.

Its not a cousin.

[ZonkoVille77]

I said it before and I'll say it again - some people are too thick to understand cause and effect.

[Captain Turdseye]

I said it before and I'll say it again - some people are too thick to understand cause and effect.

What does it mean, mate?

[Ranxerox]

More dogs are going to look sad

 

But only when other dogs are hurt, they don't give a fuck about the fate of cats the anti-feline cunts. 

[Rico1304]

Wtf is the point of bombing it now? even though we have been and gaining nothing!! maybe we should not of gone meddling with things in the 1st place in the middle east all those years ago in Iraq than Afghanistan and leaving things worse than before... hopefully Haliburton do well off it though... (oh I see they already did!!).. did we get to vote on that Iaq one? I remember a big march....

I didn't say bombing was a good idea.