so this new (old) war in the Middle East

[Mustangt125]

So some terrorists went into a synagogue in Israel and slaughtered some innocent civlians. 

 

Then in the streets the Palestinians citizens can be seen dancing, eating candy, and celebrating.

 

Yet no mention by any of you lads.....Strange.

[stringvest]

If we posted every time there was an outrage in Palestine we would never get anything else done.

[Strontium]

So some terrorists went into a synagogue in Israel and slaughtered some innocent civlians. 

 

Then in the streets the Palestinians citizens can be seen dancing, eating candy, and celebrating.

 

Yet no mention by any of you lads.....Strange.

 

The victims don't count because they're people like us, and all the self-loathing cool kids sympathise with the enemy these days.

[stringvest]

Fucking hell SD. You are the enemy.

[Strontium]

Yeah, I'm the enemy for wanting people to live free from oppression and opposing Stone Age belief systems. Fucking nuts. Some of you won't be happy until we're all living in caves like savages.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Yeah, I'm the enemy for wanting people to live free from oppression

Well, some types of oppression, eh?

[stringvest]

Yeah, I'm the enemy for wanting people to live free from oppression and opposing Stone Age belief systems. Fucking nuts. Some of you won't be happy until we're all living in caves like savages.

The arrow on the hypocritonomer has flown off the machine and has landed on a small meteor on the far side of Pluto.

 

[Strontium]

Well, some types of oppression, eh?

 

No, all oppression, actually.

 

However it's fair to say I have little sympathy with people who want to throw off the oppression of an occupying power so they can impose even worse oppression upon themselves.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

No, all oppression, actually.

 

However it's fair to say I have little sympathy who want to throw off the oppression of an occupying power so they can impose even worse oppression upon themselves.

Even worse. Come now.

[stringvest]

Fucking hell the machine itself is now in orbit around Mercury.

[Strontium]

Even worse. Come now.

 

Do Israeli Arabs have a better living standard than those living under Hamas? Do they have a better living standard than Arabs in any other country in the Middle East?

 

Ask a gay Arab where they'd rather live.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Do Israeli Arabs have a better living standard than those living under Hamas? Do they have a better living standard than Arabs in any other country in the Middle East?

 

Ask a gay Arab where they'd rather live.

What relevance does this have? Ask a dead child whether he'd sooner live under fatah or bombed to death by an American supplied Israeli attack jet. You spoke about the oppression of an occupying power, not living in Israel.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

So some terrorists went into a synagogue in Israel and slaughtered some innocent civlians.

 

Then in the streets the Palestinians citizens can be seen dancing, eating candy, and celebrating.

 

Yet no mention by any of you lads.....Strange.

Baruch Goldstein like, wouldn't you say?

 

Do you know him?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

WATCH: Police spray putrid water on Palestinian homes, schools

Two new videos catch a police ‘skunk’ truck spraying East Jerusalem neighborhoods with foul-smelling liquid. The smell was so bad that 4,500 students had to stay home from school.

 

The “skunk” trucks drives slowly through the neighborhood. It is evening, and there is no evidence of clashes in the area. The truck proceeds slowly, sprays putrid-smelling water on a nearby building, continues on and shoots once again. When it’s all over, the truck has tainted schools, homes, streets – entire neighborhoods – with its unbearable stink. Just like that.

 

Two videos that were filmed this past week by Palestinian residents of Jerusalem and were given to +972 support claims by residents regarding the inappropriate use of the skunk by the police. In August, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) filed a complaint to the police regarding multiple cases of the arbitrary use of the skunk, especially at times when there are no protests or clashes. It seems that the police has not changed its ways.

 

The common understanding among residents and human rights organizations is that the police are collectively punishing Jerusalem’s Palestinian residents, in light of clashes between youth and police in these neighborhoods. But the punishment neither begins nor ends with skunk water; the police block entrances to these neighborhoods with concrete blocks, detains residents for long hours at checkpoints and hands out petty fines – all at the behest of the Jerusalem municipality.

 

Police use the 'skunk' water canon to disperse protesters in Kafr Kanna, a day after Israeli police fatally shot an Arab man in the village. (photo: Yotam Ronen/Activestills.org)

Police use the ‘skunk’ water canon to disperse protesters in Kafr Kanna, a day after Israeli police fatally shot an Arab man in the village. (photo: Yotam Ronen/Activestills.org)

In the A-Tur neighborhood, the police shot skunk water at four large schools, forcing the parents of 4,500 students to leave their children at home due to the unbearable smell. “It was this past Friday, at around 5:30 p.m.,” says Khader Abu Sabitan, a member of the parents’ committee in the neighborhood. “I was on the road and saw them pass with their machine, and saw how they began shooting water at the school. I’m telling you – there was nothing there. It is Friday at 5:30 in the evening, and there was no one in the school or on the streets. Nothing. Everyone was home. They went to all four schools in the neighborhood, shot the water, and left.”

 

WATCH: The ‘skunk’ sprays foul-smelling liquid on a school in A-Tur

 

 

The skunk water targeted the A-Tur elementary school for boys, the elementary and high school for girls, a high school for boys and the “Basma” elementary school for disabled children. All four schools are located on the neighborhood’s main street.

 

“After we saw what they did, we told the parents not to send the children to school on Saturday, which is a school day for us. We thought that the municipality would be able to solve the problem by Sunday, since the children didn’t go to school on that day. It wasn’t a strike – we just could not enter the area because of the smell. We sent letters through the teachers on Saturday and Sunday, but no one came. So we brought back the children to school on Monday, and told them to go straight to class ad not linger outside. The smell even permeated the classrooms, but they closed the windows and made do somehow. They stayed inside during the lunch break and then went straight home. It has been a week, and it still smells. Less, but you can still smell it.”

 

For anyone who has not experienced it, words cannot express the smell of the skunk. The Israeli-developed truck is primarily used by the army in the occupied territories over the past several years, although now it is slowly making its way to Jerusalem and Israel. The strong stench smells like a mix of feces and animal carcass – gagging is almost inevitable.

 

WATCH: The ‘skunk’ showers putrid water on homes in Jabel Mukaber

 

 

The worst part is that there is almost no way to get rid of the smell. Showering doesn’t help, and protesters usually deal with it is by taking a dip in the sea. Objects that have been sprayed with skunk water often smell for much longer periods of time. After being hit with a few drops of skunk water, my camera smelled for nearly half a year.

 

It is difficult to fathom exactly why such large amounts of skunk water must be sprayed at classrooms and homes, as can be seen in the second video that was filmed in the Jabel Mukaber neighborhood of Jerusalem. Like in the video from A-Tur, there are no stone throwers or protesters. The police act casually, there are no rocks being thrown in the air, no sounds of explosions, no screaming or bullets that characterize confrontations in East Jerusalem. Just a skunk truck spraying homes.

 

“The perception of the residents and organizations is that the police uses the skunk routinely, regardless of whether they are dispersing protests, as one can plainly see in the video” Oshrat Maimon, an attorney with the Ir Amim NGO. “The problem is that we don’t even know what the police’s procedure is when it comes to using the skunk. Therefore, we don’t know if the problem is in the procedure itself, or in the lack of implementation. The truth is that we’re a bit helpless in this situation.”

 

Over the past several weeks, activists from East Jerusalem have met with members of human rights organizations in order to attempt to formulate a response to the actions of the police and municipality. They, however, found it difficult to arrive at a solution. “Our field coordinators say that people are afraid of the police and do not want to provide testimonies,” says Maimon. “Even people who were shot, such as someone was hit with a sponge-tipped bullet in the head or a woman who was shot and her uterus was torn – when our investigators speak with them, they are afraid that if they speak up the police will find its way to them and find a way to harm them.

 

In response to ACRI’s request, the police responded that the skunk is used according to regulations, but refused to say explain what the regulation says. ACRI has attempted to force the police to publish the regulations vis-a-vis the skunk. Meanwhile in East Jerusalem, the occupation becomes smellier than ever.

[Section_31]

So some terrorists went into a synagogue in Israel and slaughtered some innocent civlians.

 

Then in the streets the Palestinians citizens can be seen dancing, eating candy, and celebrating.

 

Yet no mention by any of you lads.....Strange.

Conversely of course, you and SD can often be found posting on here everytime an Israeli tank runs over a market.

[Pureblood]

Jihadi John theory; he's not remotely interested in Islam, he's a serial killer who has infiltrated IS to carry out his crimes in front of the watching world.

[Mustangt125]

Conversely of course, you and SD can often be found posting on here everytime an Israeli tank runs over a market.

 

It's not JUST the fact that this atrocity happened....Dont you see anything wrong with the entire community out in the streets celebrating, listening to music, eating candy, and dancing for this?

 

I don't recall any city-wide parties in Tel-Aviv for when that poor Arab kid was murdered a month or so ago.

 

Numero, why don't you ask your hypothetical young GIRL if she'd like living in Israel there (with all the freedom in the world) or under an Islamist regime that takes over after the Israelis.   I bet you know what her answer would be.

[Strontium]

Conversely of course, you and SD can often be found posting on here everytime an Israeli tank runs over a market.

 

Yeah, that happens all the time.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

It's not JUST the fact that this atrocity happened....Dont you see anything wrong with the entire community out in the streets celebrating, listening to music, eating candy, and dancing for this?

 

I don't recall any city-wide parties in Tel-Aviv for when that poor Arab kid was murdered a month or so ago.

 

Numero, why don't you ask your hypothetical young GIRL if she'd like living in Israel there (with all the freedom in the world) or under an Islamist regime that takes over after the Israelis. I bet you know what her answer would be.

Do you remember the footage of several Israelis dragging their sofa's out onto the hills, so they could watch and whoop and cheer the latest bombing campaign on Gaza?

[ElishaScottBC]

Do Israeli Arabs have a better living standard than those living under Hamas? Do they have a better living standard than Arabs in any other country in the Middle East?

 

Ask a gay Arab where they'd rather live.

 

Strontium Dog reporting live, from deep within the gay Arab community, back to the studio!

[Jairzinho]

It's not JUST the fact that this atrocity happened....Dont you see anything wrong with the entire community out in the streets celebrating, listening to music, eating candy, and dancing for this?

 

I don't recall any city-wide parties in Tel-Aviv for when that poor Arab kid was murdered a month or so ago.

 

Numero, why don't you ask your hypothetical young GIRL if she'd like living in Israel there (with all the freedom in the world) or under an Islamist regime that takes over after the Israelis.   I bet you know what her answer would be.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZrGuKwhLs

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k

 

"There's no school tomorrow,there's no children left in Gaza! Oleh!"

 

[Section_31]

It's tragic on both sides and I find the bumping of the thread to ask 'where is the outrage' petty in the extreme. Nobody will have watched the news and not been disgusted by it.

 

One thing that didn't sit right with me though was Bengamin saying how there'd be repercussions/revenge. The blokes who did it are dead but the insinuation seems to be, as always, that vengeance will be enacted on the community/race itself.

 

Things go to shit when people have nothing to lose, and that applies to the English riots just as much as it did armed insurrection in Baghdad.

 

If you create a population who have something precious, be it family, money, jobs, future, they can be bargained with to do what's in their own best interests, when they have none of those things why would they give a fuck about any consequences?

[VladimirIlyich]

In the documentary The Gatekeepers,almost all the heads of the Shin Bet? the Israeli chief intelligence agency,said that the Israelis must talk to the Palestinians and discuss the situation,yet they refuse to do so.

Its almost as if they want the death and destruction to continue.

[Mustangt125]

What do they gain from that continued death and destruction? Losing countless amounts of money and losing the lives of their soldiers and civilians. 

 

It's almost as if the Palestinians want the death and destruction to continue, you know, by murdering innocent civilians in a house of worship. 

[Section_31]

What do they gain from that continued death and destruction? Losing countless amounts of money and losing the lives of their soldiers and civilians.

 

It's almost as if the Palestinians want the death and destruction to continue, you know, by murdering innocent civilians in a house of worship.

Wrong is wrong, killing people is wrong, don't know why you've thrown the 'house of worship' thing in as if to elicit some kind of moral outrage, as weren't the Israeli military shelling UN schools not too long ago? When it comes to outrage top trumps both sides have got a few belters to deal. Cunts on both sides and a lot of ordinary people trapped in between who'd all rather be somewhere else.