Lib Dems

[moof]

Quite clearly not, and it ultimately wasn't brought in. How clever of us. If only there was name for such machinations, like "politics".

 

Criticising the Lib Dems for getting policies enacted without actually making concessions certainly makes a refreshing change from criticising the Lib Dems for getting policies enacted after having made concessions. But it goes a long way to reinforcing the idea that people aren't really interested in the nitty-gritty, and just want to slam the Lib Dems for dealing with the Tories in the first place. The all-powerful Lib Dems who were simultaneously irrelevant but also responsible for everything the Tories did.

 

Anyway, things have gone so wonderfully well in this country since 2015 without us. I for one can't wait to see what happens next.

Hahahaha

[Neil G]

Quite clearly not, and it ultimately wasn't brought in. How clever of us. If only there was name for such machinations, like "politics".

 

Criticising the Lib Dems for getting policies enacted without actually making concessions certainly makes a refreshing change from criticising the Lib Dems for getting policies enacted after having made concessions. But it goes a long way to reinforcing the idea that people aren't really interested in the nitty-gritty, and just want to slam the Lib Dems for dealing with the Tories in the first place. The all-powerful Lib Dems who were simultaneously irrelevant but also responsible for everything the Tories did.

 

Anyway, things have gone so wonderfully well in this country since 2015 without us. I for one can't wait to see what happens next.

Presumably then you can provide evidence that at the time Clegg made the concession he knew that the sanctions would be deemed illegal and that there was never any risk of them being enacted.

[Strontium]

Presumably then you can provide evidence that at the time Clegg made the concession he knew that the sanctions would be deemed illegal and that there was never any risk of them being enacted.

I can provide as much evidence of that as you can for the idea that he didn't. But he is a Lib Dem, so naturally you will assume the worst.

[Jairzinho]

They need to be put out of their misery. An absolute waste of fucking air.

 

With a Labour Party actually on the left again, and Tories that basically don't really give a fuck one way or another about social policies, there is no longer any reason for anyone to vote Lib Dem.

 

Tried to sell themselves as the party of the 48%...still no-one gave a fuck. Just pack your bags and fuck off back to clearing paths and sorting the bins.

[Strontium]

Yeah, with a Labour Party that wants to clamp down on freedom on the left and a Tory Party that wants to clamp down on freedom on the right, who needs a party that stands for individual liberties.

 

I think Jairz is probably a bit put off that he moves all the way to Spain to find the Spanish equivalent of the Lib Dems leading the opinion polls.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Liberal Dumb-ocrats

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Sorry that you have to pay 5p for plastic bags, I guess. Makes about as much sense as all our other alleged crimes.

Astounding point-missing.

 

For the record, the plastic bag charge (or something like it) was on its way anyway, thanks to EU legislation. The Lib-Dems really didn't have to support that murderous cunt IDS.

https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/the-depraved-coalition-deals-lib-dems.html?m=1

 

Cynical, dishonest and brutal - or "politics", as you seem to understand it.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Yeah, with a Labour Party that wants to clamp down on freedom on the left and a Tory Party that wants to clamp down on freedom on the right, who needs a party that stands for individual liberties.

 

I'm intrigued. Which freedoms does the Labour Party want to clamp down on?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Liberal Dumb-o-twats.

[Strontium]

Yeah, things are so much better now with the Tories in sole charge.

 

We won't mention how Labour's general election manifesto - yes, Corbyn Labour - would actually keep most of the welfare cuts the Tories announced in 2015

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/20/labour-manifesto-keep-planned-tory-benefit-cuts-resolution-foundation.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

There really is no getting away from the fact that the Lib Dems were nothing more than Tory enablers - the party that brought us austerity- just as the DUP are now.

 

Do you not even feel a twinge of shame?

[Section_31]

There really is no getting away from the fact that the Lib Dems were nothing more than Tory enablers - the party that brought us austerity- just as the DUP are now.

 

Do you not even feel a twinge of shame?

Nah the DUP are much more slick. There's 12 of them and they kept May sweating on a deal for ages and managed to screw 1.5 billion of craic out of her.

 

When you look at what the Lib Dems really wanted out of their deal all you have to do is see a picture of soft arse sat next to Cameron in the Commons sniggering away as 'deputy PM'.

 

It was all a Clegg ego trip. He betrayed his MPs, his party and his voters for five minutes of fame that would - and have - set him up for life.

[Anny Road]

Irrelevant.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Nah the DUP are much more slick. There's 12 of them and they kept May sweating on a deal for ages and managed to screw 1.5 billion of craic out of her.

 

When you look at what the Lib Dems really wanted out of their deal all you have to do is see a picture of soft arse sat next to Cameron in the Commons sniggering away as 'deputy PM'.

 

It was all a Clegg ego trip. He betrayed his MPs, his party and his voters for five minutes of fame that would - and have - set him up for life.

Good point.

 

Poundland DUP.

[Boss]

The Tories have had free reign ever since and they've never got close to enacting policies as Dickensian as the ones brought in during the coalition with the Lib Dems. That alone tells you everything you need to know. 

[Strontium]

There really is no getting away from the fact that the Lib Dems were nothing more than Tory enablers - the party that brought us austerity- just as the DUP are now.

 

Do you not even feel a twinge of shame?

 

Shame for what? For giving the country stable leadership in its hour of need? For halving the deficit? Reducing inequality to its lowest level since 1986? Adding 2 million jobs to the economy, reducing unemployment from 8% to under 6%? Taking 3 million low paid out of tax altogether? For allowing gay people to marry? Introducing the pupil premium and the triple lock pension? Which of these things are we supposed to feel ashamed about?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Shame for what? For giving the country stable leadership in its hour of need? For halving the deficit? Reducing inequality to its lowest level since 1986? Adding 2 million jobs to the economy, reducing unemployment from 8% to under 6%? Taking 3 million low paid out of tax altogether? For allowing gay people to marry? Introducing the pupil premium and the triple lock pension? Which of these things are we supposed to feel ashamed about?

I just got teary reading that, with Land of Hope & Glory playing in the background.

 

Comical bullshit, that nobody over the age of 20 would fall for.

[Strontium]

You've got no argument, because it's all true. But no, let's cherry pick a few Tory policies that got through because we needed to make a few cuts thanks to inheriting a disaster of an economy and whinge and moan about those instead.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Hundreds of thousands of people- even those in work- driven into such destitution that they have to depend on foodbanks, while the tax-dodging billionaires and millionaires lap it all up; that's worth "whingeing" about.

 

And you don’t get to accuse anyone else of "cherry picking" after that ridiculous "This is Britain. It's all right" post just then.

 

Your party enabled a gang of cunts to damage millions of people's lives, just for the opportunity to sit next to the people in power, and your blinkered tribalism won't countenance the slightest criticism of them for it.

 

You're silly.

[cloggypop]

He's the SteveO of the Lib Dems.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

Vince Cable does not look like he would survive a term as PM. Not survive politically but be alive for 5 years.

Vince Cable is an absolute, know-it-all shite. I had the misfortune of having to work with this twat. He is all about his own fucking mental and moral superiority, even when he is proving himself as thick as pig-shit. In case Stronts thinks this is an anti-Liberal thing, Susan Kramer was a brilliant Liberal MP, who put others needs above her own dogma. Sorry, Stronts, not having a pop, just reckon you might be a tad riled up by now.

 

PS Vince Cable is a cunt.

[PestiRed]

Shame for what? For giving the country stable leadership in its hour of need? For halving the deficit? Reducing inequality to its lowest level since 1986? Adding 2 million jobs to the economy, reducing unemployment from 8% to under 6%? Taking 3 million low paid out of tax altogether? For allowing gay people to marry? Introducing the pupil premium and the triple lock pension? Which of these things are we supposed to feel ashamed about?

Adding 2 million jobs to the economy whilst reducing unemployment by 2% would imply a potential workforce of 100 million people as opposed to the actual 16-64 aged population of around 31 million in the UK

 

Lies, damned lies and statistics

[Boss]

The unemployment figures for working aged people in the UK are actually round 20% nowadays and they were higher during the coalition. They fiddle the figures to exclude unemployed people if they haven't been actively looking for work in the last 4 weeks, or people who are unable to start work in the next two weeks. They term these people 'economically inactive' and they don't show up on the unemployment statistics, even though they are unemployed and dwarf the figures of the supposed "unemployed".

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/april2018

 

It doesn't surprise me that Stronts is clueless in this regard. He accepts everything at face value without the inquisitiveness to explore whether his fantasy depictions are in fact reality. On the subject of fantasy "giving the country stable leadership in it's hour or need" well that's a parody, surely?

[Strontium]

This country deserves the chainsaw enema of Brexit more than any country ever deserved anything, ever.

[cloggypop]

He just has a team that he will defend constantly while deflecting all criticism/facts/reality/whatever.

 

It makes him a bit of a blert in the GF but probably a decent fella in the FF.