Warrior Kit Deal - Not bullshit

[Scott_M]

They took inspiration for the badge from my tattoo.

[Coro]

HJC Statement RE: Kit Launch

 

The HJC are aware of an amendment to the new 2012/13 kit, which has recently been launched. We have also noted that the Hillsborough flames and "96" will now appear on the back of the shirt, "after consultation" with family members".

 

We can confirm that no bereaved families of the HJC were contacted or consulted. Indeed the first we were aware of this was via the Supporters Committee Minutes of their March meeting.

 

Once again LFC has chosen to ignore the HJC and their families. The continued refusal of the club to acknowledge the HJC is insensitive, divisive and deplorable. 96 is more than a number. LFC would do well to remember that.

[Ginny]

This is a nice kit. Taking the LFC badge back to the old school.

[dobbalina]

I don't know why I'm surprised but the online store is in meltdown. I've been trying to order kits for the kids for the last 45 minutes and still haven't managed to checkout.

 

Typical Liverpool, they produce a great kit, then piss you off when you try to buy it.

[The Acolyte]

HJC Statement RE: Kit Launch

 

The HJC are aware of an amendment to the new 2012/13 kit, which has recently been launched. We have also noted that the Hillsborough flames and "96" will now appear on the back of the shirt, "after consultation" with family members".

 

We can confirm that no bereaved families of the HJC were contacted or consulted. Indeed the first we were aware of this was via the Supporters Committee Minutes of their March meeting.

 

Once again LFC has chosen to ignore the HJC and their families. The continued refusal of the club to acknowledge the HJC is insensitive, divisive and deplorable. 96 is more than a number. LFC would do well to remember that.

 

Sorry but Jesus wept!

There's no pleasing some people.

What other club chooses to remember a tragedy by putting it on their shirts?

None.

What other way could they have done it without floating some law on size and location?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

HJC Statement RE: Kit Launch

 

The HJC are aware of an amendment to the new 2012/13 kit, which has recently been launched. We have also noted that the Hillsborough flames and "96" will now appear on the back of the shirt, "after consultation" with family members".

 

We can confirm that no bereaved families of the HJC were contacted or consulted. Indeed the first we were aware of this was via the Supporters Committee Minutes of their March meeting.

 

Once again LFC has chosen to ignore the HJC and their families. The continued refusal of the club to acknowledge the HJC is insensitive, divisive and deplorable. 96 is more than a number. LFC would do well to remember that.

 

96 is more than a number, that's for sure, but why would the club say that families were consulted when none were. They'd know full well they'd be called on it.

 

I hope the club don't get involved in any war of words. Only one winner there, and it isn't those at the club.

[Faustus]

Absolutely gorgeous top. I don't normally buy shirts (I think the last time I bought one was for the Athens final), but I may make an exception for this one.

 

Got to love the simplicity.

[Hand Shandy]

 

96 is more than a number, that's for sure, but why would the club say that families were consulted when none were. They'd know full well they'd be called on it.

 

I hope the club don't get involved in any war of words. Only one winner there, and it isn't those at the club.

 

My understanding is they spoke to the HFSG.

 

I also understand (but don't know enough to comment further) that there has been tension between the club and the HJC for quite some time.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

My understanding is they spoke to the HFSG.

 

I also understand (but don't know enough to comment further) that there has been tension between the club and the HJC for quite some time.

 

Yeah, because the club will only recognise HFSG. I kind of 'get' HJC's annoyance at that. Still, if they spoke with HFSG then the line about not contacting families of the HJC is, whilst technically right, an attempt to discredit the club and make it look like they're ignoring families. Bit heavy, isn't it?

[Guest davelfc]

The flames and '96' on the collar a the back now gives it a whole lot more prominence.

[Hand Shandy]

 

Yeah, because the club will only recognise HFSG. I kind of 'get' HJC's annoyance at that. Still, if they spoke with HFSG then the line about not contacting families of the HJC is, whilst technically right, an attempt to discredit the club and make it look like they're ignoring families. Bit heavy, isn't it?

 

Well yes...

 

As someone else said above, I'm not sure what the HJC wanted the club to do.

 

It isn't as if they've completely scrapped any form of recognition/memorial - they've just created a separate logo for it and gone back to the old club crest.

[Hand Shandy]

The flames and '96' on the collar a the back now gives it a whole lot more prominence.

 

I agree. It was lost in amongst the old crest, which had far too much 'going on' in it.

[mht1892]

I think that statement is embarrassing in all honesty.

[Kennys_spell]

96 is more than a number, that's for sure, but why would the club say that families were consulted when none were. They'd know full well they'd be called on it.

 

I hope the club don't get involved in any war of words. Only one winner there, and it isn't those at the club.

 

What I don't understand here - and it's probably due to my ignorance so apologies in advance - but it appears to me that there two groups and one trying to create a rivalry between them?

 

Surely they have the same aims and goals. I understand one is for the justice campaign and one is the families support group but surely it can all be done under the one banner.

 

It's just me I know but I don't understand the politic of this.

[JohnnyH]

HJC Statement RE: Kit Launch

 

The HJC are aware of an amendment to the new 2012/13 kit, which has recently been launched. We have also noted that the Hillsborough flames and "96" will now appear on the back of the shirt, "after consultation" with family members".

 

We can confirm that no bereaved families of the HJC were contacted or consulted. Indeed the first we were aware of this was via the Supporters Committee Minutes of their March meeting.

 

Once again LFC has chosen to ignore the HJC and their families. The continued refusal of the club to acknowledge the HJC is insensitive, divisive and deplorable. 96 is more than a number. LFC would do well to remember that.

 

I think that's an absolutely disgusting comment. Even more so when you consider who the current manager is. The club maybe should have spoken with the HJC as well as the HFSG, but to finish their statement with that line is just headline grabbing. Horrible.

[Major Tom]

but to finish their statement with that line is just headline grabbing. Horrible.

 

It's very raw for them though, Johnny. I, too, think it's too extreme but it's driven by emotion and I can understand that.

 

They probably needed to take a step back but that's a very easy thing to say from my point of view.

[mht1892]

I agree totally, shocking.

[Redder Lurtz]

I can't ever remember seeing such universal positivity about a new kit.

[Guest davelfc]

It's the first kit I've liked from the off, for a long time. Usually they look pretty gash until you see the players actually playing and they grow on you. I think this one is brilliant and I'd like to see them bring out a version without the standard charter, although that will probably be available more suitably as a polo top later.

[Lewis92LFC]

i love the new kit! great style and a nice touch for the 96and the flames at the back. love pepes shirt too looks like something Brucey and Clemence wore in the 70's and 80's

[Lewis92LFC]

You've got to give them a bit of credit, haven't you. At least they're giving a go. Lovely kit, simple but not bland. Nice bit of 'iron will' chatter.

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[satansmutt]

A huge sigh of relief

 

I was hoping for the best but preparing for the worst, an american lacross firm making our kit could only end in disaster I thought

[Fowlers God]

Are we only having this kit for one season? It says 2012-2013. We usually have the home ones for two seasons don't we...

 

I am pretty sure that it's premier league ruling or someones ruling that clubs are only allowed to change their kits every two years so that fans do not spend x amount of pounds on kit. Most teams therefore will alternated the home and away kits so that a fan still buys a new shirt every year.

 

Most teams now change every year, looks like we had a good run.

 

See above

 

I think that's an absolutely disgusting comment. Even more so when you consider who the current manager is. The club maybe should have spoken with the HJC as well as the HFSG, but to finish their statement with that line is just headline grabbing. Horrible.

 

I agree 100% with this, Lets hope the media doesnt pick up on it or it could be a very backwards step for justice.

 

It's very raw for them though, Johnny. I, too, think it's too extreme but it's driven by emotion and I can understand that.

 

They probably needed to take a step back but that's a very easy thing to say from my point of view.

 

Its very raw for most of the people the Tom not just one group. Why should the club consult anybody regarding where to place their memorial to the 96. The "96" is more than just a charity front.

[Fowlers God]

BBC Sport - Football - Fans hit out at increased kit changes by clubs

 

Fans groups have hit out at the increased number of Premier League clubs who are launching a new home shirt every season.

 

In 2000, the Premier League charter pledged that replica strips would be released every two seasons to save fans digging into their pockets too often.

 

But 18 clubs issued a new home shirt last season and all 20 Premier League clubs are doing the same this term.

 

Tottenham have launched three new kits every year for six seasons in a row.

 

The north London club have also decided that a different sponsor will adorn their home, second and third kits for Cup games this season, meaning there will be six shirts on offer, costing £45 each on the club's website.

 

Arsenal and Liverpool are the only teams who are releasing a new kit this season, who did not do so last term.

 

While Premier League clubs are within their rights to release a new home kit every season, the extent of the current situation is in stark contrast to recommendations made by the Football Task Force, chaired by former MP David Mellor, which were included in the 2000 Premier League charter to give fans a fairer deal.

 

The group's suggestions, which also included issues around ticket pricing, encouraged clubs to ensure a two-year gap between new replica shirts, which led to clubs releasing home and away shirts in alternate years.

 

Most clubs, including many in the Football League, now issue third strips and commemorative jerseys, but Arsenal and Liverpool still say in their customer charters that "home shirts will have a minimum lifespan of two seasons" although the Gunners stipulate that there may be exceptions.

 

"This gives the shirt more longevity in comparison to releasing one every season and our fans better value for money," a Liverpool spokesman told BBC Sport.

 

According to Premier League rules clubs must "allow for market research to be undertaken with regard to the frequency of strip changes and to its design".

 

They must also "identify the intervals at which strip changes are intended to take place and the date of the next intended change" and each club's customer charter must be available to the public, outlining its policy with regard to ticketing and merchandise.

 

But Tottenham Supporters Trust chairman Bernie Kingsley said his group had not been consulted, while Football Supporters Federation chairman Malcolm Clarke labelled the club's decision to offer six new shirts as "frankly ridiculous".

 

Kingsley told BBC Sport: "The club do talk to us but any decisions that might affect their income revenue they don't generally consult us.

 

"Last season we said that we didn't like the yellow stripe on the home shirt and asked if it could be changed, but the club said if they changed it based on what the fans said they would be considered a laughing stock."

 

Kingsley said the request had been based on a similar discussion between fans of the Dutch club Feyenoord where supporters' requests were granted.

 

Birmingham City have also just launched a new kit for the coming season where fans chose the design from four on offer.

 

A Tottenham spokesman denied Kingsley's claims and told BBC Sport: "Our aim going forward was to continue to meet demand for greater variety and choice in all of the merchandise ranges that we offer, including replica kit.

 

As a result the club took the decision from the start of season 2005/06 that all our replica kits would have a one-year lifespan and we regularly discuss subjects such as this at our quarterly meetings with the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust."

 

Clarke said: "I think Spurs' actions are frankly ridiculous. Given the price of watching football in London you have to be very rich to be a Spurs fan already. If you're paying for six shirts that would be about £250."

 

Kingsley added: "It is down to the individual whether to buy them or not but in the current financial climate I think the club should be more sensitive.

 

"The club will argue that by issuing new kits it provides more revenue streams in which to buy new players and some supporters will go along with that, but it's just another example of football ceasing to be a sport and more a business."

 

Manchester United and Manchester City are another two clubs who have both released new home and away shirts for the coming season having done the same thing last term.

 

Allan Galley, chairman of the Manchester City Supporters Club said: "People do want to wear them as a way of relating to the club, but I think it's unfair to bring them out every season at £45 each.

 

"It's not a popular policy. Young children like to wear them too, but it's not as if they are particularly cheap for them either."

 

But Mark Longden of the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association said: "If you are daft enough to buy a new football shirt every season then that is up to you.

 

"You don't have to buy them, the only thing that concerns me is the ticket prices and the club have not put them up this season, so it doesn't directly affect me."

 

Former sports minister Kate Hoey, who was in government when the Football Task Force was active, said the issue was more relevant for people who could not afford to go to football matches but added that parents had to take a firm stand against persuasive children.

 

"The Premier League clubs are a law unto themselves and if people keep buying them then they will keep selling them," she told BBC Sport.

 

"I don't take the line where children come home and say, 'everybody else has got a shirt why can't I have one?' I was brought up in an era where I was told by my parents, 'we can't afford it, sorry'."

[RedKnight]

It's for one season I think, we changed the club's charter this year to reflect that. Man Utd, Everton, Aston Villa and Spurs have all changed their home kits yearly in the last 4 years.